Kingdom Come 2 - Your Same-Sex Adventure Awaits!

[1998]

Yogurt is one thing, but I very much doubt they even had beekeepers in Mali, probably still don't.

[rusty_shackleford]

Henry isn't based on a real person. The publisher said he's 27, which seems quite old to me but is an official statement so…

FWIW, my guess is that Henry is 19-20. He's almost a journeyman blacksmith and definitely has had some years apprenticing. There was supposed to be blacksmithing in KCD1 but it was cut, there's still some lines for it and you can talk to the apprentice blacksmith in rattay about it.
He'd likely have started apprenticeship at ~15 so he's older than Hans.

Some of this can also be inferred from Henry telling his father that he already knows what he's being told(but it's an exposition dump for the player)

[Oyster Sauce]

Henry isn't based on a real person. The publisher said he's 27, which seems quite old to me but is an official statement so…

FWIW, my guess is that Henry is 19-20. He's almost a journeyman blacksmith and definitely has had some years apprenticing. There was supposed to be blacksmithing in KCD1 but it was cut, there's still some lines for it and you can talk to the apprentice blacksmith in rattay about it.
He'd likely have started apprenticeship at ~15 so he's older than Hans.

Some of this can also be inferred from Henry telling his father that he already knows what he's being told(but it's an exposition dump for the player)

Dialogue implies that he's just become a man, so 18-20ish sounds right. Definitely not 27, that Deep Silver producer was talking out of his ***.





You can even go crying to your mom if Kunesh beats the **** out of you. The entire premise of the game is manning up.

[rusty_shackleford]

Dialogue implies that he's just become a man, so 18-20ish sounds right. Definitely not 27, that Deep Silver producer was talking out of his ***.

I think he might have meant 17 but misspoke. Either way, late teens to early 20s. There's no way they'd say less than 18 officially because it might get them into trouble like say… hey this is the KCD2 thread!

[Consul]

I love how this type of generalisation is fine. Designating **** as "friends" is fine, but classifying them as "enemies" is illogical, because they are not a monolith. The game goes out of its way to constantly tell you that you should like **** and how they are your greatest ally (Does not Henry even call them allies? LOL), it's not even subtle. How can can someone look at this and not raise an eyebrow? This is so hamfisted.

[KOS-MOS]

Apparently they didn't even bother adding interiors to the game's churches

Insane. Was neat that you could enter almost every building.

But they had enough time to add a ****** and a *** sex scene

[NEETsoc]

Dialogue implies that he's just become a man, so 18-20ish sounds right. Definitely not 27, that Deep Silver producer was talking out of his ***.

I think he might have meant 17 but misspoke. Either way, late teens to early 20s. There's no way they'd say less than 18 officially because it might get them into trouble like say… hey this is the KCD2 thread!

The age of manhood at the time was 15. Probably mid to late teens. Actor is too old regardless

[rusty_shackleford]

Dialogue implies that he's just become a man, so 18-20ish sounds right. Definitely not 27, that Deep Silver producer was talking out of his ***.

I think he might have meant 17 but misspoke. Either way, late teens to early 20s. There's no way they'd say less than 18 officially because it might get them into trouble like say… hey this is the KCD2 thread!

The age of manhood at the time was 15. Probably mid to late teens. Actor is too old regardless

He was already an apprentice for some time tho, and likely close to being a journeyman considering KCD1 was intended to have blacksmithing.

[NEETsoc]

I think he might have meant 17 but misspoke. Either way, late teens to early 20s. There's no way they'd say less than 18 officially because it might get them into trouble like say… hey this is the KCD2 thread!

The age of manhood at the time was 15. Probably mid to late teens. Actor is too old regardless

He was already an apprentice for some time tho, and likely close to being a journeyman considering KCD1 was intended to have blacksmithing.

If he was nearly a journeyman, which usually took around 7 years then yea early-mid twenties

[Roguey]

And the 15yo looks like an adult. Same logic, like I said. Point is Daniel Vavra and Warhorse put their foot in the door with this one and nobody is the wiser.

"This character who looks like an adult and is voiced by an adult is a child because there's some intentionally vague date of birth in a codex entry."

Logic isn't the same at all.

You don't know what you are talking about.

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This biography is found in the first game. Born in 1388. Game takes place in 1403. He is 15 years old.

Book literally calls him "The underage son..."

The developers used adults to play children, but the game still told you they were children.

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The question mark isn't there for nothing.

They're in the clear legally. The reasons child porn is illegal is because it exploits a child or it entices a pedophile to act on urges. I've watched movies where 20-30 year old actresses have played teenagers, got naked, had sex. These movies are perfectly legal because a) no child is exploited b) they look like adults. Some pedo isn't going to get off watching adults go at it. It's the same deal here.

[rusty_shackleford]

"This character who looks like an adult and is voiced by an adult is a child because there's some intentionally vague date of birth in a codex entry."

Logic isn't the same at all.

You don't know what you are talking about.

4827b3e6-eee1-4198-b2c3-413aff3a6e9c_1080x575.jpg

This biography is found in the first game. Born in 1388. Game takes place in 1403. He is 15 years old.

Book literally calls him "The underage son..."

The developers used adults to play children, but the game still told you they were children.

download.jpg

The question mark isn't there for nothing.

They're in the clear legally. The reasons child porn is illegal is because it exploits a child or it entices a pedophile to act on urges. I've watched movies where 20-30 year old actresses have played teenagers, got naked, had sex. These movies are perfectly legal because a) no child is exploited b) they look like adults. Some pedo isn't going to get off watching adults go at it. It's the same deal here.

It's legal because the actors are adults.

[Roguey]

It's legal because the actors are adults.

Yes, and Hans's voice actor is also an adult. His character model looks like an adult. There was no controversy when they released that DLC for the first game that revolved around getting him laid, no accusations of grooming. People only started getting mad about this because they were already mad at the game and said "look here this codex entry suggests he's underage!" Desperate reaching.

[rusty_shackleford]

It's legal because the actors are adults.

Yes, and Hans's voice actor is also an adult. His character model looks like an adult. There was no controversy when they released that DLC for the first game that revolved around getting him laid, no accusations of grooming. People only started getting mad about this because they were already mad at the game and said "look here this codex entry suggests he's underage!" Desperate reaching.

The character is underage, the lead developer did not deny this.

Just to clear it up for @twig and others, so-called "loli porn", that is, fictional pornography that depicts a child, is not allowed on the site. This has nothing to do with my position on the merits of it(it disgusts me, but a lot of things that disgust me are allowed to be posted here).

https://www.justice.gov/archive/opa/pr/ ... m-699.html

A Pennsylvania woman pleaded guilty today to six counts of using an interactive computer service to distribute obscene materials, Acting Assistant Attorney General Matthew Friedrich of the Criminal Division and U.S. Attorney Mary Beth Buchanan of the Western District of Pennsylvania announced.

According to the plea agreement, Fletcher owned and operated a public Web site that distributed "text stories." On the site, Fletcher posted story excerpts that described the sexual molestation and violent abuse of children. Individuals could buy memberships to additional areas of the site where full stories, describing the sexual abuse, rape, torture and murder of newborn to teenage children, were available. Furthermore, the plea agreement reveals that Fletcher, using the pen name "Red Rose," wrote and offered the majority of the stories herself. Some of the stories were also available as audio files.

It is at best a grey area, if you get brought before a local judge, and seems illegal at the federal level.

I actually find all pornography to be quite distasteful and obscene, but as long as it is legal and placed in a correct area of the forum nothing will be done with it. Again, my position on the matter is irrelevant.

Note that she didn't even depict it visually, it was a text story.

[Oyster Sauce]

It's legal because the actors are adults.

Yes, and Hans's voice actor is also an adult. His character model looks like an adult. There was no controversy when they released that DLC for the first game that revolved around getting him laid, no accusations of grooming. People only started getting mad about this because they were already mad at the game and said "look here this codex entry suggests he's underage!" Desperate reaching.

A young irresponsible lord taking advantage of his nobility to ***** around is fundamentally different from him being anally penetrated.

[LemonDemonGirl]

It's legal because the actors are adults.

A 19 year old is an adult

[Roguey]

It's legal because the actors are adults.

Yes, and Hans's voice actor is also an adult. His character model looks like an adult. There was no controversy when they released that DLC for the first game that revolved around getting him laid, no accusations of grooming. People only started getting mad about this because they were already mad at the game and said "look here this codex entry suggests he's underage!" Desperate reaching.

The character is underage, the lead developer did not deny this.

Just to clear it up for @twig and others, so-called "loli porn", that is, fictional pornography that depicts a child, is not allowed on the site. This has nothing to do with my position on the merits of it(it disgusts me, but a lot of things that disgust me are allowed to be posted here).

https://www.justice.gov/archive/opa/pr/ ... m-699.html

A Pennsylvania woman pleaded guilty today to six counts of using an interactive computer service to distribute obscene materials, Acting Assistant Attorney General Matthew Friedrich of the Criminal Division and U.S. Attorney Mary Beth Buchanan of the Western District of Pennsylvania announced.

According to the plea agreement, Fletcher owned and operated a public Web site that distributed "text stories." On the site, Fletcher posted story excerpts that described the sexual molestation and violent abuse of children. Individuals could buy memberships to additional areas of the site where full stories, describing the sexual abuse, rape, torture and murder of newborn to teenage children, were available. Furthermore, the plea agreement reveals that Fletcher, using the pen name "Red Rose," wrote and offered the majority of the stories herself. Some of the stories were also available as audio files.

It is at best a grey area, if you get brought before a local judge, and seems illegal at the federal level.

I actually find all pornography to be quite distasteful and obscene, but as long as it is legal and placed in a correct area of the forum nothing will be done with it. Again, my position on the matter is irrelevant.

Note that she didn't even depict it visually, it was a text story.

You can't use the "everyone in this story is portrayed by an adult" excuse with text. Voovra can because he has a real actor and a character model.

[rusty_shackleford]

Yes, and Hans's voice actor is also an adult. His character model looks like an adult. There was no controversy when they released that DLC for the first game that revolved around getting him laid, no accusations of grooming. People only started getting mad about this because they were already mad at the game and said "look here this codex entry suggests he's underage!" Desperate reaching.

The character is underage, the lead developer did not deny this.

Just to clear it up for @twig and others, so-called "loli porn", that is, fictional pornography that depicts a child, is not allowed on the site. This has nothing to do with my position on the merits of it(it disgusts me, but a lot of things that disgust me are allowed to be posted here).

https://www.justice.gov/archive/opa/pr/ ... m-699.html



It is at best a grey area, if you get brought before a local judge, and seems illegal at the federal level.

I actually find all pornography to be quite distasteful and obscene, but as long as it is legal and placed in a correct area of the forum nothing will be done with it. Again, my position on the matter is irrelevant.

Note that she didn't even depict it visually, it was a text story.

You can't use the "everyone in this story is portrayed by an adult" excuse with text. Voovra can because he has a real actor and a character model.

It's not a movie with real actors, they're 3D models and vavra did not deny hans being underage, who is based on a real person.
You might want to go remove some files from your harddrive considering how hard you're defending this.

[Oyster Sauce]

He's still spamming charts as of 4 minutes ago, it definitely didn't do as well as he had hoped. Going to see the final peak tonight, since it's sunday.

[rusty_shackleford]

It's not a movie with real actors, they're 3D models and vavra did not deny hans being underage, who is based on a real person.

fwiw I'm not saying it's definitely illegal, but I am saying that I'd be uncomfortable publishing it because it's a legal grey area. And Steam likely would pull this if it was from an indie dev.

[rusty_shackleford]

The game is an RPG, you can choose to have gay sex or not.


…
No, you can't choose to side with the christians and kill the ****.
No, you can't kill musa, he's invincible.
No, you can't wrongly convict musa and have him killed, that's a game over.

[Sweeper]

Bitching about ******/*** DEI is valid but this **** about Hans si totally ********.

People desperately wanna win this so they're throwing kitchen sinks left and right.

Too bad they can't get into their thick skulls they can't win this precisely because KCD2 isn't woke but actually uber based, despite a few DEI turds. In fact it's the third most based game in the last 10 years, after KCD1 and Witcher 3. And yes, based, male-centric, white-centric games ARE gonna sell extremely well nowadays.

Goddamn, some people's definition of based seems to be "I'm playing as Otto Skorzeny, gassing joos and curb-stomping *******." Anything less is woke.

Alas, if your brian is scrambled eggs understanding nuances is teh hard.

[Griffin]

He's still spamming charts as of 4 minutes ago, it definitely didn't do as well as he had hoped. Going to see the final peak tonight, since it's sunday.

I really hope that the sales have stalled hard as it's been revealed how ******* pozzed this game is. I wonder how many copies they'd have to sell for KCD 2 to pull Embracer out from the financial hole they're in.

[rusty_shackleford]

Bitching about ******/*** DEI is valid but this **** about Hans si totally ********.

People desperately wanna win this so they're throwing kitchen sinks left and right.

Too bad they can't get into their thick skulls they can't win this precisely because KCD2 isn't woke but actually uber based, despite a few DEI turds. In fact it's the third most based game in the last 10 years, after KCD1 and Witcher 3. And yes, based, male-centric, white-centric games ARE gonna sell extremely well nowadays.

Goddamn, some people's definition of based seems to be "I'm playing as Otto Skorzeny, gassing joos and curb-stomping *******." Anything less is woke.

Alas, if your brian is scrambled eggs understanding nuances is teh hard.

this is a troll post, you don't have to reply

[Oyster Sauce]

The game is an RPG, you can choose to have gay sex or not.


…
No, you can't choose to side with the christians and kill the ****.
No, you can't kill musa, he's invincible.
No, you can't wrongly convict musa and have him killed, that's a game over.

You can't even say "I've never had a problem with the food here." any of the four times Musa rudely puts down what you've been eating your entire life.

Bitching about ******/*** DEI is valid but this **** about Hans si totally ********.

People desperately wanna win this so they're throwing kitchen sinks left and right.

Too bad they can't get into their thick skulls they can't win this precisely because KCD2 isn't woke but actually uber based, despite a few DEI turds. In fact it's the third most based game in the last 10 years, after KCD1 and Witcher 3. And yes, based, male-centric, white-centric games ARE gonna sell extremely well nowadays.

Goddamn, some people's definition of based seems to be "I'm playing as Otto Skorzeny, gassing joos and curb-stomping *******." Anything less is woke.

Alas, if your brian is scrambled eggs understanding nuances is teh hard.

Wrong thread buddy https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/kin ... ad.152487/

[Sweeper]

this is a troll post, you don't have to reply

Spoilsport.

[Tangerine]

He's still spamming charts as of 4 minutes ago, it definitely didn't do as well as he had hoped. Going to see the final peak tonight, since it's sunday.

If total Steam sales is peak x 10, then that's 2 million copies. Being generous and assuming all sales are at US pricing, that's $120 million. With Steam's cut, that's down to 84. A quick look up tells me Czech corporate taxes are about 20%, which takes that down to 67.2 million. They are well below breaking even on Steam, and I doubt the other platforms will push that number significantly higher than $100 million. I'm pretty confident production costs for this game were over $100 million, even with ****** outsourcing.

[Sweeper]

Sure, that's why they're sperging out now. I get it, I'm sick of it too.

But nuance is important, unless you're a brainless ****** who can't process more shades than black and white. There's a fundamental difference between some slop written by 20+ yo Bay Area dangerhairs, ****** and male feminists like Veilguard on one hand and a based game written by a bunch of Eastern Yuro neckbeards who threw Kwan jornoos a few bones so they stay off their dicks this time around.

Btw sperging about Joos being in the game is just as ignorant and dumbfucked as kotakoids squealing about lack of ******* in the first game. By the time the games takes place Jewerinos had lived all over the HRE for at least half a millenium and Kuttenberg was full of them.

If I sound desperate Rusty, then it's because of dumbfuck takes as this. And you saying you can easily move on from KCD if it's not flawless is the perfect example of a luxury belief I was talking about - you don't care much about the game so you find it easy to move on. Such brave, much stoic. I'm sure if I combed through your posts on RPGHQ I'd discover you've never played anything even slightly pozzed even if it was a genre you really dig.

[ArcaneLurker]

If I'm not mistaken, I don't think they even had milk.

You're telling me they didn't have goats at least?

Just like Rand said, no, I don't believe West Africa had any dairy livestock until much later. Conceivably they may have been able to milk camels? I'm not sure how far along the Sahara the Arabs introduced camels.

MENA introduced the Africans to domestication of animals, whether bovine or other. The closest thing to domestication they had was enslaving each other.

[Bran77]

The resistance !! Just like in my Star Wars movies !

[Monochrome]

Goddamn, some people's definition of based seems to be "I'm playing as Otto Skorzeny, gassing joos and curb-stomping *******." Anything less is woke.

Off topic, but a game where you undertake special operations like the gran sasso attack does sound awesome. We need more of that and less of juice and joggers.