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Acrux wrote: February 6th, 2025, 01:18
Tinky Winky wrote: February 6th, 2025, 01:12
Vergil wrote: February 5th, 2025, 19:02
We're glazing a Chinese mobile game now. Grim.
It's more of an imitation of 90s Taiwanese DOS game than modern ***** mobile slop afaik, I've never played this and probably never will though.
No, no, as of about a week ago it is a Chinese mobile game
https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... p&hl=en-US

PC version is pretty okay, though
It's heavily inspired by the 1996 Taiwanese open world JRPG "Heroes of Jin Yong" 金庸群俠傳
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroes_of_Jin_Yong
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Tinky Winky wrote: February 6th, 2025, 09:37
Acrux wrote: February 6th, 2025, 01:18
Tinky Winky wrote: February 6th, 2025, 01:12


It's more of an imitation of 90s Taiwanese DOS game than modern ***** mobile slop afaik, I've never played this and probably never will though.
No, no, as of about a week ago it is a Chinese mobile game
https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... p&hl=en-US

PC version is pretty okay, though
It's heavily inspired by the 1996 Taiwanese open world JRPG "Heroes of Jin Yong" 金庸群俠傳
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroes_of_Jin_Yong

Do you know of any more games like this? I know Ho Tu Lo Shu explicitly says it's made in the same style as that game

Ho Tu Lo Shu: The Books of Dragon inherits the trademark feature of Heluo, high degree of freedom for players
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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 6th, 2025, 09:46
Tinky Winky wrote: February 6th, 2025, 09:37
Acrux wrote: February 6th, 2025, 01:18


No, no, as of about a week ago it is a Chinese mobile game
https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... p&hl=en-US

PC version is pretty okay, though
It's heavily inspired by the 1996 Taiwanese open world JRPG "Heroes of Jin Yong" 金庸群俠傳
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroes_of_Jin_Yong
Do you know of any more games like this? I know Ho Tu Lo Shu explicitly says it's made in the same style as that game
Ho Tu Lo Shu: The Books of Dragon inherits the trademark feature of Heluo, high degree of freedom for players

I've never played any of these, but there's a chinese yt channel for obscure wuxia games, though I'm quite certain most of these don't have English translation at all as they are for chinese only.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... 7-1fURqepi

Maybe you can try Lunatic Dawn games out as there are translation projects for them.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/338070/d ... nese&ctp=2

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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 6th, 2025, 09:46
Do you know of any more games like this? I know Ho Tu Lo Shu explicitly says it's made in the same style as that game
Tale of Wuxia is similar - turn-based battles featuring your party, various choices you can make, lots of stats and martial arts you can learn. It has an official English release, though a later patch added a bunch more content, but there is an unofficial fan translation. Only issue with it is that some text in the UI is too big/small, but it's not that much of an impediment.

There's also Fate Seeker 1 and 2, though for both of those you'll need to use AutoTranslator, the existing English fan translations were done with MTL, before LLMs became popular, so they're pretty rough. They're not quite like Hero's Journey, since the combat is real time, and are more limited in reactivity.

Ho Tu Lo Shu also has an improved English fan translation nearing completion, so you can wait for that.

There's a shitload of Chinese cRPGs, especially older titles from the 90s and early 00s, but they're difficult to find and the only way you are getting to play them with a translation is via something like the MeoW program I mentioned previously. I've tried to hunt a few of them down, but since they're more than a decade old, never released in the West, aren't even talked about all that much in the West and all sources are in Chinese, it's been a struggle finding a place to download them from, especially since ****** love to put everything on Baidu, and you can't download from it without a ***** number and a subscription.

That being said, Prince of Qin got an English release with an iffy, but functional translation - the devs were on record saying their goal was making a Chinese Baldur's Gate, and I had fun playing it.

Smelly HUE expat living in Japan and Codex alumini Felipe is just about the only guy that has covered the wealth of ***** and **** cRPGs in his article, so that's worth a read.
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Is there a reason that they seem to refer to certain animals as 'deities'? Perhaps it's a mistranslation, or is it a cultural thing?
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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 6th, 2025, 18:19
Is there a reason that they seem to refer to certain animals as 'deities'? Perhaps it's a mistranslation, or is it a cultural thing?
Not sure if it's the same, but I recall there being "enlightened animals" in a game Sseth reviewed that dealt with folklore etc, perhaps it is the same here?
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Because anyone can die, the missions where you have to fight with allies are interesting. I've had a few NPCs die and just kept going.

The one way I'd improve it is having something like BG3's ability to knockout enemies
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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 6th, 2025, 18:19
Is there a reason that they seem to refer to certain animals as 'deities'? Perhaps it's a mistranslation, or is it a cultural thing?
Might be references to the gods of the Four Skies? Byakko, Genbu, Suzaku, Seiryu. I know that's Japanese but it was the first thing that came to mind.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 4th, 2025, 20:39
DagothGeas5 wrote: February 4th, 2025, 18:51
I was reading around the Steam page but, so far, this game is repelling me because of how it looks, could you tell me your experience with it on a combat-basis and anything relating to the "darker" (somber, serious, etc) parts of it if there are any? It seems too "cheery", so to speak, for my tastes, though I recall a similar game reviewed by Sseth that was something akin to Rimworld and, though I just briefly tried it out for myself, it was a good game to play. I would be fine with it all if it's some sort of comedy-type, but if it's too "cheery" blossoms and "fantasy with the power of friendship" I am not sure I can bring myself to suffer through it :?
The systems and especially the proverbs are really nice though, I love this sort of stuff!
It's a wuxia game, I don't know precisely what it's based upon, but I assume some wuxia stuff set during the warring states period. It's a mixture of some light hearted stuff and some stuff of darker tone e.g., death and suffering, refugees overcrowding and causing disease, etc.,
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A general refusing to falsely accuse his marshal of treason commits suicide in court instead of being tortured to confession.

The story is actually pretty good, there's not really one story but about a dozen intertwining ones.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 7th, 2025, 14:41
rusty_shackleford wrote: February 4th, 2025, 20:39
DagothGeas5 wrote: February 4th, 2025, 18:51
I was reading around the Steam page but, so far, this game is repelling me because of how it looks, could you tell me your experience with it on a combat-basis and anything relating to the "darker" (somber, serious, etc) parts of it if there are any? It seems too "cheery", so to speak, for my tastes, though I recall a similar game reviewed by Sseth that was something akin to Rimworld and, though I just briefly tried it out for myself, it was a good game to play. I would be fine with it all if it's some sort of comedy-type, but if it's too "cheery" blossoms and "fantasy with the power of friendship" I am not sure I can bring myself to suffer through it :?
The systems and especially the proverbs are really nice though, I love this sort of stuff!
It's a wuxia game, I don't know precisely what it's based upon, but I assume some wuxia stuff set during the warring states period. It's a mixture of some light hearted stuff and some stuff of darker tone e.g., death and suffering, refugees overcrowding and causing disease, etc.,
Another example:
A general refusing to falsely accuse his marshal of treason commits suicide in court instead of being tortured to confession.

The story is actually pretty good, there's not really one story but about a dozen intertwining ones.
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I rushed the ending with the old man just so I can start a new game. "Rushing" was still very long, there's probably 4-500 hours of content here at least.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 7th, 2025, 15:20
I rushed the ending with the old man just so I can start a new game. "Rushing" was still very long, there's probably 4-500 hours of content here at least.
This ending is the most rushed you can get.
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ArcaneLurker wrote: February 7th, 2025, 15:29
rusty_shackleford wrote: February 7th, 2025, 15:20
I rushed the ending with the old man just so I can start a new game. "Rushing" was still very long, there's probably 4-500 hours of content here at least.
This ending is the most rushed you can get.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 7th, 2025, 15:20
I rushed the ending with the old man just so I can start a new game. "Rushing" was still very long, there's probably 4-500 hours of content here at least.
This was probably ~100 hours total, according to the in-game lore page, I've unlocked 41% of characters, 19% of items, 71% of scenes(zones), 19% endings.
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So you declared it GOTY without having it finished even once? Weak
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1998 wrote: February 7th, 2025, 16:02
So you declared it GOTY without having it finished even once? Weak
I already got multiple different (non-failure) endings by that point. Even the one I listed above isn't a 'true' ending, if you expect me to play a game for 500 hours before deciding if it's good or not… tough cookie.

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It's like critiquing someone for not finishing Kenshi tbh. I already did one playthru for a long time where I went a different path before starting this one.
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Here's a better question: how many people voting for BG3 even finished it?
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I have that one on the wishlist for a while, maybe I'll take the jump soon since it gets a lot of recommends.

I am replaying Gothic 2 and Dark souls 2 currently though.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 7th, 2025, 16:15
Here's a better question: how many people voting for BG3 even finished it?
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos!
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Rand wrote: February 6th, 2025, 05:29
rusty_shackleford wrote: February 5th, 2025, 12:06
Apparently the title's literal translation could be "The Legend of the Noble Hero: Loyal Blood, Devoted Heart" and some other similar transliterations, which sounds much cooler imo.
Can any of the Chinese speakers comment?
The title is:
大侠立志传·碧血丹心
DeepL seems to have missed the alliterations if so.

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Statesman wrote: February 7th, 2025, 17:20
Rand wrote: February 6th, 2025, 05:29
rusty_shackleford wrote: February 5th, 2025, 12:06
Apparently the title's literal translation could be "The Legend of the Noble Hero: Loyal Blood, Devoted Heart" and some other similar transliterations, which sounds much cooler imo.
Can any of the Chinese speakers comment?
The title is:
DeepL seems to have missed the alliterations if so.

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Google: The Legend of the Hero: Blood and Loyalty
GPT-4o: The Legend of the Great Hero: Blood and Heart
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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 7th, 2025, 15:54
ArcaneLurker wrote: February 7th, 2025, 15:29
rusty_shackleford wrote: February 7th, 2025, 15:20
I rushed the ending with the old man just so I can start a new game. "Rushing" was still very long, there's probably 4-500 hours of content here at least.
This ending is the most rushed you can get.
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ArcaneLurker wrote: February 7th, 2025, 19:38
rusty_shackleford wrote: February 7th, 2025, 15:54
ArcaneLurker wrote: February 7th, 2025, 15:29


This ending is the most rushed you can get.
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Have you killed the Eunuch at the Enlightenment Tower yet?
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I didn't go back but when I tried I beat him the first round, then he completely stomped me.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 7th, 2025, 19:41
ArcaneLurker wrote: February 7th, 2025, 19:38
rusty_shackleford wrote: February 7th, 2025, 15:54

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Have you killed the Eunuch at the Enlightenment Tower yet?
I thought "woah, this is easy" (on my normal mode save with high Con) but then in the second wave, he demolished me in an instant.
I didn't go back but when I tried I beat him the first round, then he completely stomped me.
Need to wait until I'm a higher level, I was only level 30-40, but have very high stats.

At least I didn't get demolished by Hattori and managed to kill him later. Absolute ******* :mad:
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ArcaneLurker wrote: February 7th, 2025, 19:50
rusty_shackleford wrote: February 7th, 2025, 19:41
ArcaneLurker wrote: February 7th, 2025, 19:38


:heart:
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Have you killed the Eunuch at the Enlightenment Tower yet?
I thought "woah, this is easy" (on my normal mode save with high Con) but then in the second wave, he demolished me in an instant.
I didn't go back but when I tried I beat him the first round, then he completely stomped me.
Need to wait until I'm a higher level, I was only level 30-40, but have very high stats.

At least I didn't get demolished by Hattori and managed to kill him later. Absolute ******* :mad:
Hattori was repeatedly one of the toughest guys I faced each time he showed up. Samurai goes brrrrr
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Is this one of these games where you do 5 damage at level 1, 50 at level 20, 500 at level 40, and 5000+ at level 80?
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