Mass Effect series.

[wndrbr]

I will never understand this desire

it's an established IP with a built-in audience, that's all there is to it.

[logincrash]

I will never understand this desire

it's an established IP with a built-in audience, that's all there is to it.

I initially wrote "I will never understand this desire to see/make a show/movie..." But then I had to remove the "make" from that sentence. I completely understand the desire to make it because it's a very rational "It'll make money" reason.
It's the fans' desire to see those movies/shows made that befuddles me. It's like seeing a beautiful sculpture and saying "Someone should make this, but in 2D." This might be a clumsy analogy, but it showcases the importance of interactivity of video games as a medium.
This interactivity is what carries the mediocre stories and derivative world settings. People would treat all of those Lara Croft and Last of Us shows like the boring copycat ******** they are, had there been no video games first.

[rusty_shackleford]

Look at the big bump FO4/76 got from the fallout show, it's a win/win unless the show completely bombs regardless of how garbage this show itself is.
I think the Fallout show benefited from being a rather unique setting however, which mass effect also has.

And if the studio is just licensing the IP without paying anything, they really have nothing to lose. Nobody expects a video game adaptation to be good to begin with.

[Rand]

Amazon also announced that they are working on a live action Mass Effect streaming series, akin to their Fallout one.

I will never understand this desire to see a show/movie based on a video game franchise that was already following every single trope, cliché, or plot point from movies. Like, the Last of Us is a cinematic slop Oscar-bait story. Lara Croft and Nathan Drake are literally Indiana Jones clones. And Mass Effect is just a kitchen sink full of **** stolen from every popular sci-fi universe.
Literally the only reason why video games can get away with this **** is because they're an interactive medium. People get to feel like they're actually present in those universes. The moment you remove this most distinguishing element, you're left with regurgitated, overused and tired slop of a story.

The first Fallout was a good, coherent, tight story that was decently written.
The fact that they based the show on the stupid, corrupt, and retardedly derivative Bethesda east coast Fallout slop was fine. It's all turds in the same bucket.

But imagine if decent, talented people made a Fallout series based on the first game, following the story lore accurately... that series would still be worth watching (and would mog the Bethslop version).

[rusty_shackleford]

Amazon also announced that they are working on a live action Mass Effect streaming series, akin to their Fallout one.

I will never understand this desire to see a show/movie based on a video game franchise that was already following every single trope, cliché, or plot point from movies. Like, the Last of Us is a cinematic slop Oscar-bait story. Lara Croft and Nathan Drake are literally Indiana Jones clones. And Mass Effect is just a kitchen sink full of **** stolen from every popular sci-fi universe.
Literally the only reason why video games can get away with this **** is because they're an interactive medium. People get to feel like they're actually present in those universes. The moment you remove this most distinguishing element, you're left with regurgitated, overused and tired slop of a story.

The first Fallout was a good, coherent, tight story that was decently written.
The fact that they based the show on the stupid, corrupt, and retardedly derivative Bethesda east coast Fallout slop was fine. It's all turds in the same bucket.

But imagine if decent, talented people made a Fallout series based on the first game, following the story lore accurately... that series would still be worth watching (and would mog the Bethslop version).

We already have Fallout: The Movie

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

Amazon also announced that they are working on a live action Mass Effect streaming series, akin to their Fallout one.

I will never understand this desire to see a show/movie based on a video game franchise that was already following every single trope, cliché, or plot point from movies. Like, the Last of Us is a cinematic slop Oscar-bait story. Lara Croft and Nathan Drake are literally Indiana Jones clones. And Mass Effect is just a kitchen sink full of **** stolen from every popular sci-fi universe.
Literally the only reason why video games can get away with this **** is because they're an interactive medium. People get to feel like they're actually present in those universes. The moment you remove this most distinguishing element, you're left with regurgitated, overused and tired slop of a story.

Well ******* said.

[Rand]

We already have Fallout: The Movie

The **** we do.
That's ****.
I prefer real Fallout to this jew *********. (look up the ******* that wrote it.)

[rusty_shackleford]

I prefer real Fallout to this jew *********. (look up the ******* that wrote it.)

He seethed at the movie adaptation

[J1M]

I don't want to watch a movie that shows what another player would have done in a game that I've finished.

I also don't care for prequels.

Game movies should be "here's a playthrough of a game idea that was never greenlit because the studio can only release one game every 4 years".

[KOS-MOS]

ME3 should have gone with the indoctrination plot.

No, it should have had more than one antagonist. The Reapers and ME1 were pretty well done.

ME2 should have dealt with other concerns, such as what is beyond the spooky relay nobody wants to venture past. It was also clearly set up that after some duration of time that a fledgling Krogan empire would naturally become a problem for the other races due to their rate of expansion.

I know everyone in the ME fandom adore ME2, but I have always thought ME2 plot is the reason why ME3 made no sense and was so disappointing.

ME2 plot is basically this=
>oh a new ennemy
>let's make a big team and find them
>they're dead, good
>what now?

ME2 writting is bad. That's my opinion, and I have always been mocked for this among the ME fans. Yes the companion quests are cool, yes the suicide mission is cool. But ME2 is at best a spin-off, not a sequel. You can easily delete ME2 and change absolutely nothing to the whole plot. And ME3 had to tell the story of 2 games into one because of this.

The whole deus ex machina weapon in ME3 happened because ME2 led nowhere and solved nothing.

We spend a huge amount of time recruiting new characters and handling their personal issues rather than advancing the main plot or fighting the Reapers. Tali mentions the threat of dark energy... and then it’s dropped entirely. It’s a massive danger to the galaxy, yet it’s ignored. Apparently, resolving Miranda’s or Jacob’s daddy issues was more important.

I'm not even mentioning the dull, Gears of War-style gameplay, the reduction of RPG elements we had in ME1, the Citadel scaled down to just a few floors instead of a vast space station, the ME1 choices disregarded in the storyline, the censored romance scenes, and so on...

To me, ME2 is the weakest episode in the trilogy, even though I enjoyed certain aspects of it. People often blame ME3, but rarely consider the issues ME2 introduced.

[wndrbr]

haha, this game was announced in 2020.



not as bad of a situation as TES6, but still bad.

[gerey]

haha, this game was announced in 2020.

Were the same writers that shat out Veilguard working on ME5? I remember reading that BioWare had merged their DA and ME teams a while back.

[wndrbr]

haha, this game was announced in 2020.

Were the same writers that shat out Veilguard working on ME5? I remember reading that BioWare had merged their DA and ME teams a while back.

seems like the entirety of Deadname writing staff was laid off.

[gerey]

seems like the entirety of Deadname writing staff was laid off.

Yeah, that's why I'm curious. Might be that EA took one look at what they were cooking up for ME5, saw there was no salvaging the ******* and decided to just go scorched earth on them.

If they were indeed working on the game, then it means they'll likely need to restart the whole preproduction process and being from scratch, but on a much tighter deadline, and with a much smaller budget, and BioWare are incapable of making anything (worthwhile or not) on a tight budget and even tighter deadline.

[Magick]

I'm not even mentioning the dull, Gears of War-style gameplay, the reduction of RPG elements we had in ME1, the Citadel scaled down to just a few floors instead of a vast space station, the ME1 choices disregarded in the storyline, the censored romance scenes, and so on...

To me, ME2 is the weakest episode in the trilogy, even though I enjoyed certain aspects of it. People often blame ME3, but rarely consider the issues ME2 introduced.

Agreed, especially this (and I've still yet to play 3).

#2 was a sequel for sequel's sake. Thrown together and rushed out, just to be there using the game's name and setting, but not soul or story.
As soon as I picked up that first ammo magazine it just felt a typical BORING standard EA shooty shooter.

[loregamer]

I wish they kept the ambient Normandy music in all three games

[KnightoftheWind]

Maybe now that BioWare is a much leaner company with their *** to the fire, Mass Effect 5 will have at least a small chance of being good.

[Vergil]

This franchise is so dead. I will genuinely be amazed if the next game releases.

[Reichspepe]

I wish they kept the ambient Normandy music in all three games

ME1 ambient music was and is still one of the goats, listened to it an innumerable amount of times while reading oder studying

[wndrbr]

Another ME2 sin, ditching the synth score in favor of generic orchestra.

[gerey]

This franchise is so dead. I will genuinely be amazed if the next game releases.

Now that I think about it, Mass Effect was basically Disney Star Wars before Disney Star Wars.

All the same mistakes Disney would commit that resulted in Star Wars dying, BioWare also did. They genuinely had a Halo-level IP on their hands, and if they had played their cards right, even something that could have taken spot of Star Wars once Disney was done raping it to death, but threw it all away because of ego and pandering to groomers.

[Vergil]

This franchise is so dead. I will genuinely be amazed if the next game releases.

Now that I think about it, Mass Effect was basically Disney Star Wars before Disney Star Wars.

All the same mistakes Disney would commit that resulted in Star Wars dying, BioWare also did. They genuinely had a Halo-level IP on their hands, and if they had played their cards right, even something that could have taken spot of Star Wars once Disney was done raping it to death, but threw it all away because of ego and pandering to groomers.

It's so easy to forget how big Mass Effect was with how hard they've botched it. Utterly destroyed its cultural legacy to nothing. No lasting impact on the gaming landscape except maybe the stupid dialog wheel making it into FO4. Bioware was up there with Bethesda having massively popular fantasy and Sci fi WRPGs and they fumbled BOTH

[rusty_shackleford]

competent developers could easily make a billion with halo just by making a mass effect style game

[loregamer]

Hilarious this unironically improves his character

[Finarfin]

It literally did. I used it and it was a whole lot better.

[Nessa]

Hilarious this unironically improves his character

Wow, that reminds me how off the rails ME3 ended up. Every time I tried replaying 3 it got to ninja boy and I rage quit.

Not seeing his crap face and having him mute is an exceptional step in the right direction however.

[Nessa]

We already have Fallout: The Movie

That's one of the worst films ever made.

And it's still better than the literal (#*&$#-fest show.

Also: the Fallouts would actually improve if the dogs talked telepathically.

[KOS-MOS]

Hilarious this unironically improves his character

Wow, that reminds me how off the rails ME3 ended up. Every time I tried replaying 3 it got to ninja boy and I rage quit.

Not seeing his crap face and having him mute is an exceptional step in the right direction however.

I just can't take him seriously because of the book...

[Nessa]

I just can't take him seriously because of the book...

I think I've heard of this cancerous writing. Is this one where he breaks into Sheperd's cabin and eat his cereal?

If that was accurate, the author deserves much worse than crucifixion.

[KOS-MOS]

I just can't take him seriously because of the book...

I think I've heard of this cancerous writing. Is this one where he breaks into Sheperd's cabin and eat his cereal?

If that was accurate, the author deserves much worse than crucifixion.

I threw the book in the trash a long time ago, so here's a screenshot I found on Reddit.

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