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ArcaneLurker wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2025, 05:11
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2025, 05:06
ArcaneLurker wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2025, 05:05
BG1/2 does not have enjoyable gameplay and is also politically irritating
your opinion is bad
I don't have any rose-tinted goggles to rely on to play it. It's exceptionally boring and frustrating. Nothing was prompting me to play on because even the story is executed haphazardly in an understandably dated manner. BG3 has far superior gameplay, it's just a shame the world, characters, story and interactivity fall far from matching the standard.
I just replayed it a couple years ago, your opinion is bad and wrong.
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I'll go so far to say that the iron crisis plot in BG1 is one of the best plots in video games across any genre
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2025, 05:12
ArcaneLurker wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2025, 05:11
I don't have any rose-tinted goggles to rely on to play it. It's exceptionally boring and frustrating. Nothing was prompting me to play on because even the story is executed haphazardly in an understandably dated manner. BG3 has far superior gameplay, it's just a shame the world, characters, story and interactivity fall far from matching the standard.
I just replayed it a couple years ago, your opinion is bad and wrong.
What nostalgia does to a *****.
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2025, 05:13
I'll go so far to say that the iron crisis plot in BG1 is one of the best plots in video games across any genre
I could just watch a TV series or a movie if I wanted plot. I'm not really invested in the plot when it's delivered like that.
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The same people who like FF7 saying tyhat BG1/2 has bad gameplay... BG1/2 has a much better combat than line A vs line B, and very long flashy spells, your summons are summons, not attack, your character can be whatever you want, from a lawful good paladin to a chaotic evil necromancer, dialogs instead of two lines by two lines and zero player input, offers some times dozens of options, you can lay traps, steal stuff, pickpocket, use magic like charm out of combat(...) But sure, sure, not good gameplay /s
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IE combat is far better than FF7 combat, with sword coast stratagems it's not even close.
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WaterMage wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2025, 06:40
The same people who like FF7 saying tyhat BG1/2 has bad gameplay... BG1/2 has a much better combat than line A vs line B, and very long flashy spells, your summons are summons, not attack, your character can be whatever you want, from a lawful good paladin to a chaotic evil necromancer, dialogs instead of two lines by two lines and zero player input, offers some times dozens of options, you can lay traps, steal stuff, pickpocket, use magic like charm out of combat(...) But sure, sure, not good gameplay /s
I'm sorry to break the matrix, but FF VII is one of the games that has had the biggest impact on me, and BG1/2 is MY favorite game of all time.

I still think that BG Trilogy has never been equalled as a CRPG since.

I replay the trilogy every 4 years with a compilation of maniac mods, I was even French dueling champion on BG2.

In short, I don't see why one should be exclusive to the other...
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FF is overrated.
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Even for console peasants. From Software 90s RPGs > Square Enix 90s RPGs.
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FloSharChosen wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2025, 21:47
WaterMage wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2025, 06:40
The same people who like FF7 saying tyhat BG1/2 has bad gameplay... BG1/2 has a much better combat than line A vs line B, and very long flashy spells, your summons are summons, not attack, your character can be whatever you want, from a lawful good paladin to a chaotic evil necromancer, dialogs instead of two lines by two lines and zero player input, offers some times dozens of options, you can lay traps, steal stuff, pickpocket, use magic like charm out of combat(...) But sure, sure, not good gameplay /s
I'm sorry to break the matrix, but FF VII is one of the games that has had the biggest impact on me, and BG1/2 is MY favorite game of all time.

I still think that BG Trilogy has never been equalled as a CRPG since.

I replay the trilogy every 4 years with a compilation of maniac mods, I was even French dueling champion on BG2.

In short, I don't see why one should be exclusive to the other...
Try Xenogears. And Chrono Trigger.
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A sci fi game.

Will it force players to play as a androgynous teenager with a oversized sword too? And let me guess, it is more effective than railguns, coilguns and everything else despite making no sense?
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WaterMage wrote: ↑ January 29th, 2025, 02:05
A sci fi game.

Will it force players to play as a androgynous teenager with a oversized sword too? And let me guess, it is more effective than railguns, coilguns and everything else despite making no sense?
Nope! He literally beats the **** out of enemies with his fists. πŸ™‚
His mecha even does the same lol.
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WaterMage wrote: ↑ January 29th, 2025, 02:05
A sci fi game.

Will it force players to play as a androgynous teenager with a oversized sword too? And let me guess, it is more effective than railguns, coilguns and everything else despite making no sense?
You are painfully autistic.
WaterMage wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2025, 06:40
The same people who like FF7 saying tyhat BG1/2 has bad gameplay...
They're both dated, the difference is I played the OG FF7 when I was a child. Thought that was obvious.
Because of nostalgia, it's easier for me to endure the bad aspects of the OG FF7, than endure playing BG1/2 now, but I wouldn't play it again anyway, we're talking about an entirely different game.
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When I was a child, I was unable to understand English. So, I only played games like BG1/2, FL1/2, IWD, NWN as a late teen/early adult. I have ZERO nostalgia towards this games and love them. Hell, I also only played Wizardry 6 recently. Really loved the game despite a huge flaw(the game is impossible to play without a guide). Is not nostalgia.

Is because RPGs declined a lot. Way more than any other genre.
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WaterMage wrote: ↑ January 29th, 2025, 04:16
When I was a child, I was unable to understand English. So, I only played games like BG1/2, FL1/2, IWD, NWN as a late teen/early adult. I have ZERO nostalgia towards this games and love them. Hell, I also only played Wizardry 6 recently. Really loved the game despite a huge flaw(the game is impossible to play without a guide). Is not nostalgia.

Is because RPGs declined a lot. Way more than any other genre.
BG1/2 isn't something kids would enjoy, so go figure.
Having been a kid when playing it isn't a requirement to have the same nostalgic view of something. Some people played Skyrim as a teen and it was their first open world gaming experience.
I played FF7 as a kid but wasn't able to complete it until I returned to it, and obviously, it's a very grindy game, the turn-based & randomised combat has all the same issues as pokemon, that being said, if I had to choose between that or attempting to play BG1 again, I'd choose the former.

I played Neverwinter but it was too preachy & libtarded for me to bother completing, on top of being a variably uncomfortable gaming experience in terms of difficulty being either too easy or weirdly frustrating with no in-between.

Holy... this Wizardry 6 is such boring eye cancer, even the pixel art is bad- you can enjoy this but a big sword puts you off? You're either a contrarian or just built different.

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ArcaneLurker wrote: ↑ January 29th, 2025, 15:40
WaterMage wrote: ↑ January 29th, 2025, 04:16
When I was a child, I was unable to understand English. So, I only played games like BG1/2, FL1/2, IWD, NWN as a late teen/early adult. I have ZERO nostalgia towards this games and love them. Hell, I also only played Wizardry 6 recently. Really loved the game despite a huge flaw(the game is impossible to play without a guide). Is not nostalgia.

Is because RPGs declined a lot. Way more than any other genre.
BG1/2 isn't something kids would enjoy, so go figure.
Having been a kid when playing it isn't a requirement to have the same nostalgic view of something. Some people played Skyrim as a teen and it was their first open world gaming experience.
I played FF7 as a kid but wasn't able to complete it until I returned to it, and obviously, it's a very grindy game, the turn-based & randomised combat has all the same issues as pokemon, that being said, if I had to choose between that or attempting to play BG1 again, I'd choose the former.

I played Neverwinter but it was too preachy & libtarded for me to bother completing, on top of being a variably uncomfortable gaming experience in terms of difficulty being either too easy or weirdly frustrating with no in-between.

Holy... this Wizardry 6 is such boring eye cancer, even the pixel art is bad- you can enjoy this but a big sword puts you off? You're either a contrarian or just built different.

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Wizardry VI is a masterpiece you philistine
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Yep. Is a masterpiece. You in GoG forum can see a LOT of people trying to get into it and loving. Is not only nostalgia. I never played W6 as a child and if tried, wouldn't be able to do anything.
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ArcaneLurker wrote: ↑ January 29th, 2025, 15:40
WaterMage wrote: ↑ January 29th, 2025, 04:16
When I was a child, I was unable to understand English. So, I only played games like BG1/2, FL1/2, IWD, NWN as a late teen/early adult. I have ZERO nostalgia towards this games and love them. Hell, I also only played Wizardry 6 recently. Really loved the game despite a huge flaw(the game is impossible to play without a guide). Is not nostalgia.

Is because RPGs declined a lot. Way more than any other genre.
BG1/2 isn't something kids would enjoy, so go figure.
Having been a kid when playing it isn't a requirement to have the same nostalgic view of something. Some people played Skyrim as a teen and it was their first open world gaming experience.
I played FF7 as a kid but wasn't able to complete it until I returned to it, and obviously, it's a very grindy game, the turn-based & randomised combat has all the same issues as pokemon, that being said, if I had to choose between that or attempting to play BG1 again, I'd choose the former.

I played Neverwinter but it was too preachy & libtarded for me to bother completing, on top of being a variably uncomfortable gaming experience in terms of difficulty being either too easy or weirdly frustrating with no in-between.

Holy... this Wizardry 6 is such boring eye cancer, even the pixel art is bad- you can enjoy this but a big sword puts you off? You're either a contrarian or just built different.

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What's wrong with the Wiz 6 picture you linked? that's literal sovl.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 29th, 2025, 16:59
ArcaneLurker wrote: ↑ January 29th, 2025, 15:40
WaterMage wrote: ↑ January 29th, 2025, 04:16


When I was a child, I was unable to understand English. So, I only played games like BG1/2, FL1/2, IWD, NWN as a late teen/early adult. I have ZERO nostalgia towards this games and love them. Hell, I also only played Wizardry 6 recently. Really loved the game despite a huge flaw(the game is impossible to play without a guide). Is not nostalgia.

Is because RPGs declined a lot. Way more than any other genre.
BG1/2 isn't something kids would enjoy, so go figure.
Having been a kid when playing it isn't a requirement to have the same nostalgic view of something. Some people played Skyrim as a teen and it was their first open world gaming experience.
I played FF7 as a kid but wasn't able to complete it until I returned to it, and obviously, it's a very grindy game, the turn-based & randomised combat has all the same issues as pokemon, that being said, if I had to choose between that or attempting to play BG1 again, I'd choose the former.

I played Neverwinter but it was too preachy & libtarded for me to bother completing, on top of being a variably uncomfortable gaming experience in terms of difficulty being either too easy or weirdly frustrating with no in-between.

Holy... this Wizardry 6 is such boring eye cancer, even the pixel art is bad- you can enjoy this but a big sword puts you off? You're either a contrarian or just built different.

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Wizardry VI is a masterpiece you philistine
It doesn't surprise me that you'd say that considering your tastes so far.
I just wonder if you even need a video game, if that's what you enjoy, you could just take up a new hobby like watching paint dry or removing your own toenails.
Cmdr Shepard wrote: ↑ January 29th, 2025, 19:27
ArcaneLurker wrote: ↑ January 29th, 2025, 15:40
WaterMage wrote: ↑ January 29th, 2025, 04:16


When I was a child, I was unable to understand English. So, I only played games like BG1/2, FL1/2, IWD, NWN as a late teen/early adult. I have ZERO nostalgia towards this games and love them. Hell, I also only played Wizardry 6 recently. Really loved the game despite a huge flaw(the game is impossible to play without a guide). Is not nostalgia.

Is because RPGs declined a lot. Way more than any other genre.
BG1/2 isn't something kids would enjoy, so go figure.
Having been a kid when playing it isn't a requirement to have the same nostalgic view of something. Some people played Skyrim as a teen and it was their first open world gaming experience.
I played FF7 as a kid but wasn't able to complete it until I returned to it, and obviously, it's a very grindy game, the turn-based & randomised combat has all the same issues as pokemon, that being said, if I had to choose between that or attempting to play BG1 again, I'd choose the former.

I played Neverwinter but it was too preachy & libtarded for me to bother completing, on top of being a variably uncomfortable gaming experience in terms of difficulty being either too easy or weirdly frustrating with no in-between.

Holy... this Wizardry 6 is such boring eye cancer, even the pixel art is bad- you can enjoy this but a big sword puts you off? You're either a contrarian or just built different.

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What's wrong with the Wiz 6 picture you linked? that's literal sovl.
That's good, need to be sovlless to be enthralled by the idea of staring at it for prolonged periods of time.
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Wizardry VI is a classic, though. FF7 looked so bad it actually put me off of video games for a while.

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As if I care. At least it's a simple thing, you could easily make a game like that yourself within a few weeks.

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https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasy7rebirth/mods/138

This modder says they had to use Hex editing because there are no tools to make the files readable.
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BobT wrote: ↑ January 29th, 2025, 01:26
FloSharChosen wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2025, 21:47
WaterMage wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2025, 06:40
The same people who like FF7 saying tyhat BG1/2 has bad gameplay... BG1/2 has a much better combat than line A vs line B, and very long flashy spells, your summons are summons, not attack, your character can be whatever you want, from a lawful good paladin to a chaotic evil necromancer, dialogs instead of two lines by two lines and zero player input, offers some times dozens of options, you can lay traps, steal stuff, pickpocket, use magic like charm out of combat(...) But sure, sure, not good gameplay /s
I'm sorry to break the matrix, but FF VII is one of the games that has had the biggest impact on me, and BG1/2 is MY favorite game of all time.

I still think that BG Trilogy has never been equalled as a CRPG since.

I replay the trilogy every 4 years with a compilation of maniac mods, I was even French dueling champion on BG2.

In short, I don't see why one should be exclusive to the other...
Try Xenogears. And Chrono Trigger.
I'm familiar with these gems, of course, having played almost all the PC and console RPGs.

Chrono trigger is one of my high school emulator experiences, a superb atmosphere but a little too easy.
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ArcaneLurker wrote: ↑ January 30th, 2025, 16:43
As if I care. At least it's a simple thing, you could easily make a game like that yourself within a few weeks.

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https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasy7rebirth/mods/138

This modder says they had to use Hex editing because there are no tools to make the files readable.
It's a mess, I have to wait for mod tools I guess.

The game is awesome, really.
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FloSharChosen wrote: ↑ January 31st, 2025, 09:49
ArcaneLurker wrote: ↑ January 30th, 2025, 16:43
As if I care. At least it's a simple thing, you could easily make a game like that yourself within a few weeks.

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https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasy7rebirth/mods/138

This modder says they had to use Hex editing because there are no tools to make the files readable.
It's a mess, I have to wait for mod tools I guess.

The game is awesome, really.
Yeah, I'll be waiting for any patches they will inevitably have to make too.

I didn't like the differences to the story, with the whispers and multiverse ****, the ending of Remake was very Kingdom Heartsy, and the last few bosses weren't enjoyable, but the DLC was. I'd love to know which guys were responsible for what elements.

It's annoying that Rebirth is almost the same game as Remake, on the same engine, with similar visuals, yet they've made RTX a requirement (likely as an agreement with tech companies).
The GTX series isn't supposed to be able to play it, but it can, if you trick the system with a DLL. :golf clap:

They put so much focus on processing and shaders, when it just makes the game blurry or uncanny, and then underneath all of that, they still have to use very low res textures for large segments of the environment. Extremely irrational, alongside with the focus on "representation," with ******* and LGBT everywhere in the background. I wish game devs would focus on gameplay, I don't care if the game looks like a PS2 game (if it's like FF12 level visuals).
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Hi all, i just registered desperately because i'm playing FF VII rebirth, which i consider one of the best jrpg's of the last years, and they've filled it with woke npcs, black ones, other ugly ones, etc and they ruin the game's atmosphere. i came to ask if someone could create a mod for the antiwoke npcs for this game, if i had the necessary knowledge i would do it myself. it's bothering me quite a bit while i'm playing all this. greetings, i'm very happy to see a website/forum dedicated to cleaning up woke garbage games.
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LuX wrote: ↑ February 1st, 2025, 00:59
Hi all, i just registered desperately because i'm playing FF VII rebirth, which i consider one of the best jrpg's of the last years, and they've filled it with woke npcs, black ones, other ugly ones, etc and they ruin the game's atmosphere. i came to ask if someone could create a mod for the antiwoke npcs for this game, if i had the necessary knowledge i would do it myself. it's bothering me quite a bit while i'm playing all this. greetings, i'm very happy to see a website/forum dedicated to cleaning up woke garbage games.
As soon as I have the protocols for swapping pnjs, I'll take care of it.
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FloSharChosen wrote: ↑ February 4th, 2025, 07:56
LuX wrote: ↑ February 1st, 2025, 00:59
Hi all, i just registered desperately because i'm playing FF VII rebirth, which i consider one of the best jrpg's of the last years, and they've filled it with woke npcs, black ones, other ugly ones, etc and they ruin the game's atmosphere. i came to ask if someone could create a mod for the antiwoke npcs for this game, if i had the necessary knowledge i would do it myself. it's bothering me quite a bit while i'm playing all this. greetings, i'm very happy to see a website/forum dedicated to cleaning up woke garbage games.
As soon as I have the protocols for swapping pnjs, I'll take care of it.
Wow, thanks, because all of this is horrible.
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LuX wrote: ↑ February 4th, 2025, 21:03
FloSharChosen wrote: ↑ February 4th, 2025, 07:56
LuX wrote: ↑ February 1st, 2025, 00:59
Hi all, i just registered desperately because i'm playing FF VII rebirth, which i consider one of the best jrpg's of the last years, and they've filled it with woke npcs, black ones, other ugly ones, etc and they ruin the game's atmosphere. i came to ask if someone could create a mod for the antiwoke npcs for this game, if i had the necessary knowledge i would do it myself. it's bothering me quite a bit while i'm playing all this. greetings, i'm very happy to see a website/forum dedicated to cleaning up woke garbage games.
As soon as I have the protocols for swapping pnjs, I'll take care of it.
Wow, thanks, because all of this is horrible.
The game still a MUST HAVE BY THE WAY.
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Totally agree, this game is awesome :)
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FloSharChosen wrote: ↑ February 5th, 2025, 00:18
LuX wrote: ↑ February 4th, 2025, 21:03
FloSharChosen wrote: ↑ February 4th, 2025, 07:56


As soon as I have the protocols for swapping pnjs, I'll take care of it.
Wow, thanks, because all of this is horrible.
The game still a MUST HAVE BY THE WAY.
I Alt+F4-ed the moment I got to the **** yellow paint.
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HumilityFan wrote: ↑ February 5th, 2025, 21:54
FloSharChosen wrote: ↑ February 5th, 2025, 00:18
LuX wrote: ↑ February 4th, 2025, 21:03


Wow, thanks, because all of this is horrible.
The game still a MUST HAVE BY THE WAY.
I Alt+F4-ed the moment I got to the **** yellow paint.
Enjoy! No More Yellow Paint

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