I miss when games were made by two or three dudes in a garage.rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 21st, 2025, 10:01Anyone want to take some guesses on the development cost?
We have a floor of $36.5 million, which was KCD. They went from 130 developers to 250, have more overhead, and took longer to make it.
My guess is somewhere around $70 million once marketing is included.
Czech interview from last year saying they've spent around the same as a medium-budget hollywood film or netflix series: https://cc.cz/kingdom-come-2-stalo-jako ... -warhorse/
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>there's about 30 seconds of unskippable gay sex with an erect peen at the endMordred wrote: ↑ January 21st, 2025, 11:06https://steamcommunity.com/app/1771300/ ... 016894049/
this kinda sound like trolling i hope they did not go that far. on the other hand i can see that happening for "sticking it to the chuds who like playing as hetero white dude"
Yeah, there's no way this **** is real. I'm all for laughing at Daniel Jewra and his faggotry, but there's no way in hell this is in the game.
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I find this very easy to believe. As I said earlier...Mordred wrote: ↑ January 21st, 2025, 11:06https://steamcommunity.com/app/1771300/ ... 016894049/
this kinda sound like trolling i hope they did not go that far. on the other hand i can see that happening for "sticking it to the chuds who like playing as hetero white dude"
**** have a hatred of normal whiteness, and are obliged to destroy it at every opportunity.TKVNC wrote: ↑ January 20th, 2025, 12:53They did the same thing in BG3 with Shadowheart - she had to be a ***** because she was white, conventionally attractive, and the straight white males choice.
Making Theresa into a ***** is a blatant slap in the face, and entirely political- thus, very believable.
I find it all very plausible, actually.
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i would agree but then i remembered that they broke the erect penis in maistream media with the gen v series (even more woke "the boys" spin off) so it is at least not impossible. Still kinda unlikely lets hopelogincrash wrote: ↑ January 21st, 2025, 11:24>there's about 30 seconds of unskippable gay sex with an erect peen at the endMordred wrote: ↑ January 21st, 2025, 11:06https://steamcommunity.com/app/1771300/ ... 016894049/
this kinda sound like trolling i hope they did not go that far. on the other hand i can see that happening for "sticking it to the chuds who like playing as hetero white dude"
Yeah, there's no way this **** is real. I'm all for laughing at Daniel Jewra and his faggotry, but there's no way in hell this is in the game.
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Agreed. Obviously Vavra is not to be trusted with any of his statement, but I don't think even he would lie about cutscenes all being skippable.logincrash wrote: ↑ January 21st, 2025, 11:24>there's about 30 seconds of unskippable gay sex with an erect peen at the endMordred wrote: ↑ January 21st, 2025, 11:06https://steamcommunity.com/app/1771300/ ... 016894049/
this kinda sound like trolling i hope they did not go that far. on the other hand i can see that happening for "sticking it to the chuds who like playing as hetero white dude"
Yeah, there's no way this **** is real. I'm all for laughing at Daniel Jewra and his faggotry, but there's no way in hell this is in the game.
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What is it with right-wing people and liking ****? That dude on twitter is literally mocking people who dislike faggotry by saying "Oh no, we have more choices than before"
Ah yes, the anti-woke that love ******* and having gay sex options in games that should not have them.
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I'm not sure if it is a language barrier to some extent there are surprisingly many germans who can't speak english well and will therefore not even understand what is happening.rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 21st, 2025, 09:06The data is in the link, you can view each country. It's lower in UK than most of mainland europe, but UK is still way higher than USA/CA.gerey wrote: ↑ January 21st, 2025, 09:05Dragon Age: The Veilguard sales "solid" in UK, "softer" across rest of Europe - report
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$190 million.rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 21st, 2025, 10:01Anyone want to take some guesses on the development cost?
We have a floor of $36.5 million, which was KCD. They went from 130 developers to 250, have more overhead, and took longer to make it.
My guess is somewhere around $70 million once marketing is included.
Czech interview from last year saying they've spent around the same as a medium-budget hollywood film or netflix series: https://cc.cz/kingdom-come-2-stalo-jako ... -warhorse/
70 may be what an initial guess would estimate. Now, double that, because its a smaller dev transitioning to AAA. Now, add 50 mil to that, because of even more stupidity. That's how I got 190 million.
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Hmm, BG3 cost about $100m, but that was with ******'s of the Coast licensing- so I think Rusty is pretty close with $70mmaidenhaver wrote: ↑ January 21st, 2025, 11:39$190 million.rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 21st, 2025, 10:01Anyone want to take some guesses on the development cost?
We have a floor of $36.5 million, which was KCD. They went from 130 developers to 250, have more overhead, and took longer to make it.
My guess is somewhere around $70 million once marketing is included.
Czech interview from last year saying they've spent around the same as a medium-budget hollywood film or netflix series: https://cc.cz/kingdom-come-2-stalo-jako ... -warhorse/
70 may be what an initial guess would estimate. Now, double that, because its a smaller dev transitioning to AAA. Now, add 50 mil to that, because of even more stupidity. That's how I got 190 million.
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HMMM..TKVNC wrote: ↑ January 21st, 2025, 11:44Hmm, BG3 cost about $100m, but that was with ******'s of the Coast licensing- so I think Rusty is pretty close with $70mmaidenhaver wrote: ↑ January 21st, 2025, 11:39$190 million.rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 21st, 2025, 10:01Anyone want to take some guesses on the development cost?
We have a floor of $36.5 million, which was KCD. They went from 130 developers to 250, have more overhead, and took longer to make it.
My guess is somewhere around $70 million once marketing is included.
Czech interview from last year saying they've spent around the same as a medium-budget hollywood film or netflix series: https://cc.cz/kingdom-come-2-stalo-jako ... -warhorse/
70 may be what an initial guess would estimate. Now, double that, because its a smaller dev transitioning to AAA. Now, add 50 mil to that, because of even more stupidity. That's how I got 190 million.
Warhorse Studio was Formed: August 31, 2011
KCD first Announced in Development: February 9, 2012
KCD Release Date: February 13, 2018
~6 Years
Kingdom Come: Deliverance II Full Development Began: July, 2019
KCD2 Release Date: Feb, 2025
~5.5 Years
KCD Cost = 36.5 MillionWhile Warhorse Studios had 131 employees in 2019, it had grown to around 250 people by spring 2024 at the latest.
HMMM.... HMMMMMMMMMMMMM...
Now account for:
- Lack of Budget Scrutiny
- Embracer Funding
- No more reliance on some "shadow investor" who was using Bohemian history as a tax write off
- Slav love of spending and flaunting wealth (See: Vavra sports car with golden ballsack)
- Bloated work force with inflated salaries (I bet early day Warhorse employee's were taking minimal salary or stock options / ownership as compensation)
- Inflation
- Less risk aversion / higher confidence in ROI
BLah Blah Blah
I think maidenhaver is probably close. I might even round up to 200 Million. Their saving grace vs something like Bioshit is they are all living in a poor country and can pay peanuts but as we learned with CDPR - that quickly defoliates the bigger you get in as a game developer.
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TKVNC wrote: ↑ January 20th, 2025, 20:57What are the results for us non Xaggots?Roguey wrote: ↑ January 20th, 2025, 20:56
"Games these days are just a bit too liberal" with the slight edge.
It's woke 47.2%
It's not woke 52.8%
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Shillitron wrote: ↑ January 21st, 2025, 13:32It's woke 47.2%TKVNC wrote: ↑ January 20th, 2025, 20:57What are the results for us non Xaggots?Roguey wrote: ↑ January 20th, 2025, 20:56
"Games these days are just a bit too liberal" with the slight edge.
It's not woke 52.8%
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I have no faith in grifters or their audience. If after all these leaks, and Vávra's spergout, people still don't see it as woke then there is no helping them.
Just rank shabbos.
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I am late to the show, trying to skim through some of this... but is this true? They did add **** to the game?
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A lot of people in the comments / the grifters themselves are surprised it's 50-50.. Nobody thought the "It's woke" group was this big.TKVNC wrote: ↑ January 21st, 2025, 13:38I have no faith in grifters or their audience. If after all these leaks, and Vávra's spergout, people still don't see it as woke then there is no helping them.Shillitron wrote: ↑ January 21st, 2025, 13:32It's woke 47.2%
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Yeah the poll is nonsensical, all the woke people who would have said it's not woke will also vote at it.TKVNC wrote: ↑ January 21st, 2025, 13:38I have no faith in grifters or their audience. If after all these leaks, and Vávra's spergout, people still don't see it as woke then there is no helping them.Shillitron wrote: ↑ January 21st, 2025, 13:32It's woke 47.2%
It's not woke 52.8%
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Just rank shabbos.
Meaning it is clearly the majority who sees it as woke.
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their literally couldn't be a bigger red flag
Yes, and Henry is now canonically bisexual (a ****** in other words).Xenich wrote: ↑ January 21st, 2025, 13:41I am late to the show, trying to skim through some of this... but is this true? There did add **** to the game?
Musa of Mali is also real, and it looks like if other leaks are true, they also made Henry into a cuckold.
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LOLTKVNC wrote: ↑ January 21st, 2025, 13:48Yes, and Henry is now canonically bisexual (a ****** in other words).Xenich wrote: ↑ January 21st, 2025, 13:41I am late to the show, trying to skim through some of this... but is this true? There did add **** to the game?
Musa of Mali is also real, and it looks like if other leaks are true, they also made Henry into a cuckold.
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I mean, I thought they would go woke in some subtle way as we discussed very early on with the gypsies, I didn't realize they would go balls deep into the woke faggotry. With all the crap of past games, it is like they decided they would just crap all over themselves anyway.
Hope if tanks hard.
Just goes to show you, don't trust in people or companies... trust in results (verified actual results).
I remember early on in the forums I was trying to get people to hold back, don't buy into the hype until we see, but the ***** were like "OMG Varva is a god! He will not cave to woke!"
Typical child like naivety.
Hilarious.
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Wait, I seem to have missed this one? What did they do?
But if it's so god-**** hard, why even include it? Risking your whole game and rep on some random meme thing, on a character that clearly is not gay.
Turns out Theresa cheated on him. Apparently.
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Closed as this post is a troll and contains false information. The game and reviews will be out soon - check them out and see the truth for yourself.
They said the same thing about the gay romance and the ****** though.Roguey wrote: ↑ January 21st, 2025, 14:34Closed as this post is a troll and contains false information. The game and reviews will be out soon - check them out and see the truth for yourself.
Well they removed the **** slags code of conduct, and replaced it with a generic "stay on topic" ruleset. Which is nice.
But, their approach has been so scummy, lying to potential (and actual, if you count preorders) customers, as well as attempting to keep it under wraps for a rug pull finale.
Even if it wasn't woke, no self-respecting individual could willingly buy this for full price. Vávra has shown nothing but contempt for consumers.
It's woke, and they clearly like biting the hand that feeds; I won't tell you what to do with your money though.
But, their approach has been so scummy, lying to potential (and actual, if you count preorders) customers, as well as attempting to keep it under wraps for a rug pull finale.
Even if it wasn't woke, no self-respecting individual could willingly buy this for full price. Vávra has shown nothing but contempt for consumers.
It's woke, and they clearly like biting the hand that feeds; I won't tell you what to do with your money though.
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When they say it that must be true. A deepsilver employed could say "it contains false information" because the Inn thing with the cutscene may actually be skippable while the rest is still true.Roguey wrote: ↑ January 21st, 2025, 14:34Fake infoClosed as this post is a troll and contains false information. The game and reviews will be out soon - check them out and see the truth for yourself.
Don't believe them, they have been lying before.
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Oh man, they aren't even being subtle... They check all the boxes on woke and it seems it is intent on trying to **** off people as well.Nico wrote: ↑ January 21st, 2025, 14:33Turns out Theresa cheated on him. Apparently.
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I hope this gets plastered across the internet and this company tanks super hard.
This content is absolutely insulting.
This is obvious ******/fem/****** garbage you saw in BG3. This isn't a perspective of creation, this is deliberate and intentional propaganda that has nothing to do with gaming and everything about trying to "stick it" to the "anti-woke" crowd.
The **** are all patting themselves on the back in the forums over this. This was intentional, absolutely.
Full price?TKVNC wrote: ↑ January 21st, 2025, 14:50Well they removed the **** slags code of conduct, and replaced it with a generic "stay on topic" ruleset. Which is nice.
But, their approach has been so scummy, lying to potential (and actual, if you count preorders) customers, as well as attempting to keep it under wraps for a rug pull finale.
Even if it wasn't woke, no self-respecting individual could willingly buy this for full price. Vávra has shown nothing but contempt for consumers.
It's woke, and they clearly like biting the hand that feeds; I won't tell you what to do with your money though.
Anyone who pays any amount of money for this I consider a **** who deserves what these people are ultimately planning for their "opponents".
I wouldn't **** on this game if I was offered money to do it. This entire game exists as a propaganda piece.
It even makes me wonder if this was a long con.
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TBH I think they just go blackpilled and catered to the supposed winner of the Culture war. It happens if you are surrounded by ideologues and sycophants.Xenich wrote: ↑ January 21st, 2025, 14:57Full price?TKVNC wrote: ↑ January 21st, 2025, 14:50Well they removed the **** slags code of conduct, and replaced it with a generic "stay on topic" ruleset. Which is nice.
But, their approach has been so scummy, lying to potential (and actual, if you count preorders) customers, as well as attempting to keep it under wraps for a rug pull finale.
Even if it wasn't woke, no self-respecting individual could willingly buy this for full price. Vávra has shown nothing but contempt for consumers.
It's woke, and they clearly like biting the hand that feeds; I won't tell you what to do with your money though.
Anyone who pays any amount of money for this I consider a **** who deserves what these people are ultimately planning for their "opponents".
I wouldn't **** on this game if I was offered money to do it. This entire game exists as a propaganda piece.
It even makes me wonder if this was a long con.
No spine is the issue.
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Could be made up. But if not I bet all of these characters cant be attacked too.Xenich wrote: ↑ January 21st, 2025, 14:53Oh man, they aren't even being subtle... They check all the boxes on woke and it seems it is intent on trying to **** off people as well.
I hope this gets plastered across the internet and this company tanks super hard.
This content is absolutely insulting.
This is obvious ******/fem/****** garbage you saw in BG3. This isn't a perspective of creation, this is deliberate and intentional propaganda that has nothing to do with gaming and everything about trying to "stick it" to the "anti-woke" crowd.
The **** are all patting themselves on the back in the forums over this. This was intentional, absolutely.
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I really really want this leak to be fake. Devs made some based comments about woke stuff in regards to the first game. Would be a shame to see them fall so low. I mean, dirty Blackrock money can not be THAT tempting to a normal man, no? Riiight? 

