The Witcher 4 Thread

[UltraFan123]

They played it well to be fair. It was a broken, but pretty mess at release. Pre-Sales numbers still high up. They took their sweet time doing things they should have done a year earlier. And by the time they rolled our their only DLC, the whole product was not bad. Of course woke slop, but in these 3 years they fixed a lot of issues and now thats all what people remember.

May I ask you to explain what do you mean when you call cyberpunk 2077 woke? Isn't the normalization of perversion and degeneratism part of the dystopian universe that cyberpunk usually is?

Yes, this is an excerpt from one of the original setting source books of the Cyberpunk 2020 RPG.

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And mind you, this was originally published in 1988.

[Faceless_Sentinel]

You can make ******** and choose male or female voice regardless of sex.

You think in a game that preteds to be rpg, in a world where degeneracy is normalized giving player opportunity to be degenerate is a bad thing?

In the earlier versions there was no clear indicator of which one's male or female, not even a "he" or "she" when describing them. Making the names gender neutral is clearly an intentional choice to confuse the player (who's statistically most likely to be a normal man) into picking a male ****** prostitute.
It was complained about often enough that CDPR made a visual graphic in-game that clarified which one's male and which one's female in the more recent patches.

I played a game when visual graphic in-game that clarified which one's male and which one's female were added, didn't know that.

[logincrash]

You think in a game that preteds to be rpg, in a world where degeneracy is normalized giving player opportunity to be degenerate is a bad thing?

I wouldn't have thought that 20 years ago. But the current day (or, well, back in 2020) political climate, with ******** ruining everything and CDPR getting kiked Blackrock ESG money, I can see the full picture. This "It actually fits the setting and the genre and the THEMES of the game perfectly" argument is ******** spewed genuinely by ******* and in bad faith by bad actors.

[Faceless_Sentinel]

They played it well to be fair. It was a broken, but pretty mess at release. Pre-Sales numbers still high up. They took their sweet time doing things they should have done a year earlier. And by the time they rolled our their only DLC, the whole product was not bad. Of course woke slop, but in these 3 years they fixed a lot of issues and now thats all what people remember.

May I ask you to explain what do you mean when you call cyberpunk 2077 woke? Isn't the normalization of perversion and degeneratism part of the dystopian universe that cyberpunk usually is?

Yes, this is an excerpt from one of the original setting source books of the Cyberpunk 2020 RPG.

And mind you, this was originally published in 1988.

Do you remember what page is this on?

[Faceless_Sentinel]

You think in a game that preteds to be rpg, in a world where degeneracy is normalized giving player opportunity to be degenerate is a bad thing?

I wouldn't have thought that 20 years ago. But the current day (or, well, back in 2020) political climate, with ******** ruining everything and CDPR getting kiked Blackrock ESG money, I can see the full picture. This "It actually fits the setting and the genre and the THEMES of the game perfectly" argument is ******** spewed genuinely by ******* and in bad faith by bad actors.

I always treated it like opportunity to be degenerate in degenerate world. Incredibly surface level option, like all options in cyberpunk. May be because it is so surface level I wasn't annoyed a thought it fits the setting.

[UltraFan123]

May I ask you to explain what do you mean when you call cyberpunk 2077 woke? Isn't the normalization of perversion and degeneratism part of the dystopian universe that cyberpunk usually is?

Yes, this is an excerpt from one of the original setting source books of the Cyberpunk 2020 RPG.

And mind you, this was originally published in 1988.

Do you remember what page is this on?

It's from the source book "NeoTribes" in page number 8 or 9 depending on how your PDF reader registers the pages.

Also, this particular book was published in 1994, rather than in 1988 which was when the RPG itself was first published - I got the dates mixed up lol - but it's still surprising how accurately it predicted the future.

[Faceless_Sentinel]

Yes, this is an excerpt from one of the original setting source books of the Cyberpunk 2020 RPG.

And mind you, this was originally published in 1988.

Do you remember what page is this on?

It's from the source book "NeoTribes" in page number 8 or 9 depending on how your PDF reader registers the pages.

Also, this particular book was published in 1994, rather than in 1988 which was when the RPG itself was first published - I got the dates mixed up lol - but it's still surprising how accurately it predicted the future.

Found it:

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[Roderick]

They got bailed out by a tranime.

They just lucked out on Cyberpunk and think now they are invincible. All their talk seems already outdated by a few years. I played their games since the release week W1, but I don't think I could stand 60h of snarky girl boss commentary.

[Roderick]

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Feeling vindicated by getting this ending.

[Statesman]

Why give me an option to look at her *** when all I get is a snarky remark and I should learn my place?

To be fair, Judy was supposed to be romance-able by male characters, but CDPR cut that content last minute. They even left voiced lines in-game. It can be easily modded back with a flag change on your savefile and an animation fix (so the game uses male animations for the sex scenes).

[Red7]

I love Ciri and I wish she was reallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

i would wait couple years for dolls to get silent fiber motors and stuff

but why ciri, she like med with small tits tho.

[Red7]

May I ask you to explain what do you mean when you call cyberpunk 2077 woke? Isn't the normalization of perversion and degeneratism part of the dystopian universe that cyberpunk usually is?

Yes, this is an excerpt from one of the original setting source books of the Cyberpunk 2020 RPG.

And mind you, this was originally published in 1988.

Do you remember what page is this on?

i guess soykuk2077 is faithful to its soy heritage then
no surprise, ***** wrote like 90% of **** in all media including gaYming

[Rand]

Remember when it was a "lie" that CDPR was losing every good dev after they went DEI crazy for capital?

Well:


Witcher 4 is being made by the D (as in DEI) team.
Expect it to be BG3 levels of corrupt, without the redeeming mechanical layer.

[Tangerine]

When has CDPR ever failed us in the writing?

I see someone hasn't played CP2077.

[aden11]

Problem is not Ciri as main Character problem is their agenda and Ciri being a medium for that degeneracy agenda. You can see it in trailer, Devs degens running rampant in their X stuff, CDPR actions around inclusivity sexism and what not. Its funny they use Ciri as ou you are afraid of woman as main character. But Reality is They didnt use any of Ciry story powers or logical conclusions that could come out of it. They had to take a Geralt and make him a Ciri.The Ciri would be some powerful mage fighting world ending deities but that would require some kind of original thinking also concept of battling natural disasters like White Frost is harder to write than some dude running around taking contracts on monsters. The whole Ciry the Chosen only she can end White Frost was the lamest of all stories in Witcher 3 while grounded side quests were the best. Witcher 3 was full of bossy woman (sorceress) and man were mostly just *****, criminals or in Radovid case literal Hitler. They ended Witcher 3 with various ending for ciry Yennefer Triss who ever you choose. It was supposed to be last of the Witcher games they mentioned it multiple times. Interesting that all of that talk is forgotten now and all I can see ot was the most logical for witcher to be about Ciri. No it was not it should have ended and it ended everything that will come out now will be just some kind of zombie. Resembling some kind of shape of old but itll be rotting crap going for your brain.

[Faceless_Sentinel]

When has CDPR ever failed us in the writing?

I see someone hasn't played CP2077.

Please enlighten me on this, russian localisation is so disastrous, that I played with english voiceover and russian interface(subs off, because they repeat russian voiceover).

[logincrash]

I played with english voiceover and russian interface(subs off, because they repeat russian voiceover).

Why not play the game entirely in English by that point?
Or did you just not understand anything the characters were saying?
What was that even like? Did you read the quest log entries to get the story?

[rusty_shackleford]

cp2077 plot peaks like 5 hours in then nosedives and never recovers, the moment you get king redditor in your head everything goes to complete ****

[Roguey]

Meanwhile, former CDPR designer who worked on W1:

"Designer Karol Kowalczyk, who worked on the original but is no longer at CD Projekt, admitted in 2022 that, ‘It is indeed very disturbing that the game kind of forces you to become a mindless sex addict to get some of those. We failed to see that as when you are testing the game for the 100th time, you start to do it mechanically and don’t really feel those emotions.’ ‘With the experience I have now, I’d leave the drawings in the game, but remove any suggestions that this is a collectible, and also do a review of all the scenes and strip the game of those that were causing mixed feelings,’"

I can do you one better, here's the guy who wrote the first game:

https://twitter.com/garnek/status/1288765272896274432

Rant time. This popped up in the comments to our incoming #WerewolfTheApocalypse game and, oh boy, how am I tired with this ****. So instead of the morning coffee, I'll rant for a while.

How fragile is a masculinity hurt by the mere existence of a woman character?

So many wrong assumptions that I can even. Women play games. Why would we focus on True Male Gamers (TM) when there are so many likeable gamers out there? Women write games. 2/3 of our writing team are women. Why on earth would we write another Rugged Male Hero (TM)?

https://twitter.com/garnek/status/1269170210868736000

Living far from the US, I don't understand all nuances of the American systemic racism – I've grown in a homogenous society where inequalities, and oppression express differently. Yet it's clear to me that the protesters fight a good fight and need our support #BlackLivesMatter

They were always woke.

[DagothGeas5]

Meanwhile, former CDPR designer who worked on W1:

"Designer Karol Kowalczyk, who worked on the original but is no longer at CD Projekt, admitted in 2022 that, ‘It is indeed very disturbing that the game kind of forces you to become a mindless sex addict to get some of those. We failed to see that as when you are testing the game for the 100th time, you start to do it mechanically and don’t really feel those emotions.’ ‘With the experience I have now, I’d leave the drawings in the game, but remove any suggestions that this is a collectible, and also do a review of all the scenes and strip the game of those that were causing mixed feelings,’"

I can do you one better, here's the guy who wrote the first game:

https://twitter.com/garnek/status/1288765272896274432

Rant time. This popped up in the comments to our incoming #WerewolfTheApocalypse game and, oh boy, how am I tired with this ****. So instead of the morning coffee, I'll rant for a while.

How fragile is a masculinity hurt by the mere existence of a woman character?

So many wrong assumptions that I can even. Women play games. Why would we focus on True Male Gamers (TM) when there are so many likeable gamers out there? Women write games. 2/3 of our writing team are women. Why on earth would we write another Rugged Male Hero (TM)?

https://twitter.com/garnek/status/1269170210868736000

Living far from the US, I don't understand all nuances of the American systemic racism – I've grown in a homogenous society where inequalities, and oppression express differently. Yet it's clear to me that the protesters fight a good fight and need our support #BlackLivesMatter

They were always woke.

Why is it always talks about "fragile masculinity" or "fear of women" instead of realism and the fact majority of women I personally met are incredibly stressful to deal with and people want out at least when they are trying to have fun in a videogame?

[rusty_shackleford]

Women write games. 2/3 of our writing team are women.

Admin's note: less than 1/6th of their potential customers are women.

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Witcher was written almost 20 years ago, think about what your opinions were like 20 years ago then pretend you're a ******** polack.

[Faceless_Sentinel]

Why not play the game entirely in English by that point?
Or did you just not understand anything the characters were saying?
What was that even like? Did you read the quest log entries to get the story?

For some reason I can't catch on the fly interface text in english(ability describtion, stats names and stat description, weapon description etc.), especially when game use entirely new word for me or word that rarely used in games(best example of this would be Mangy Nightsaber, it was very hard for me to understand what is this mob, because in russian localization name of this mob is "Shabby nightly sabertooth", i never seen word "nightsaber" used to name animals before in other games, only as names of some legendary swords(for some reason our localizers thought a sword sounded cooler than a saber, so they used sword instead of saber in localizations), it was very confusing), I have to switch windows with alt+tab to translate words, this breaks immersion and annoying. I was pretty surprised myself, but I perfectly understood what characters were saying without subtitles, there were no new words whose meaning I couldn't guess from the context.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

cp2077 plot peaks like 5 hours in then nosedives and never recovers, the moment you get king redditor in your head everything goes to complete ****

I can go on a hour long rant on CP2077 narrative issues by itself, especially the Phantom Liberty expansion that actually makes the overall story worse at certain points.

[Faceless_Sentinel]

cp2077 plot peaks like 5 hours in then nosedives and never recovers, the moment you get king redditor in your head everything goes to complete ****

But "Épater la bourgeoisie" celebrities in the U.S. behave the same way, don't they?

[aden11]

Why is it always talks about "fragile masculinity" or "fear of women"

Because thats basic form of response other would need a originality. Bet the **** had to **** for position they were big players in big club and felt pressure to act a like. When they say stuff like why are you afraid of woman, why woman should be sex slave, why is your masculine ego so fragile. They know how this corpo world works who gets and who doesnt get the position. Would not be surprised if a lot work they "did" was stolen and now they live of status and not actual skill. Most of them do, thats why they behave like a dogs and start barking when they feel like they should. Doubt about standards honor and such.

[logincrash]

cp2077 plot peaks like 5 hours in then nosedives and never recovers, the moment you get king redditor in your head everything goes to complete ****

I can go on a hour long rant on CP2077 narrative issues by itself, especially the Phantom Liberty expansion that actually makes the overall story worse at certain points.

Please, do. @Faceless_Sentinel was also curious.

[1998]

cp2077 plot peaks like 5 hours in then nosedives and never recovers, the moment you get king redditor in your head everything goes to complete ****

I can go on a hour long rant on CP2077 narrative issues by itself, especially the Phantom Liberty expansion that actually makes the overall story worse at certain points.

PL was indeed weird. I didn't mind too much just going through there gunning everything down, but I stopped paying attention to the story basically half an hour in.

[Finarfin]

cp2077 plot peaks like 5 hours in then nosedives and never recovers, the moment you get king redditor in your head everything goes to complete ****

I can go on a hour long rant on CP2077 narrative issues by itself, especially the Phantom Liberty expansion that actually makes the overall story worse at certain points.

PL was indeed weird. I didn't mind too much just going through there gunning everything down, but I stopped paying attention to the story basically half an hour in.

I liked the live concert thingie in the Casino and the horror section at the end of the game. Male V also had one of the funnier lines in PL.

[Silver]

The only quest I actually remember quite vividly from CP2077 is the River's investigation about serial killer who was kidnapping young boys. And even then, it's mostly only section where you arrive to the farm that stuck in my memories.

Foggy and gloomy setting of the evening (or night?) scene, shivering discoveries you make while going slowly through the barn and of course, the victims you find there. I feel like it's a very grounded quest, compared to all other ******** CP2077 puts player through, but for me, it didn't lose impact or value of the story (especially since you get to save kids, assuming quest is completed successfully of course). Human evil is always scary and unsettling.

[logincrash]

I liked [...] the horror section at the end of the game.

Literally the worst quest in the entire game even counting the blasphemous crucifixion questline.