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Faceless_Sentinel wrote: December 2nd, 2024, 16:34
rusty_shackleford wrote: December 2nd, 2024, 15:53
cleansingcarnage wrote: December 2nd, 2024, 15:50


To be fair, the extreme majority of motivated pro-woke posters online can't meaningfully define what it is either. If you ask them, they'll all tell you it just means being aware of social injustice. The vast majority of people just aren't aware of the origins or theory behind the ideologies they follow, beyond merely parroting the doctrinal points they've been spoonfed.

The caveman definition of woke could reductively but correctly be stated as "straight, White, male = bad; gay, brown, female = good". More specifically, it's ideologically anti-traditional and seems to be heavily based on Umberto Eco's concept of Ur-Fascism.
Easier to just summarize it as gay race communism, because it gets the idea across immediately. It's communism(lysenkoism) applied to race and sexuality.
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1998 wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 10:07
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what ridiculous site is this screen shot from?
so, having a sense of humour that differs from the moderators is now enough to get banned? And this is the "tolerant" people too, I guess? those promoting "inclusiveness" and all that? 🤪
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fkirenicus wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 10:11
1998 wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 10:07
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what ridiculous site is this screen shot from?
It's from a Dragon Age Facebook group. Also
so, having a sense of humour that differs from the moderators is now enough to get banned? And this is the "tolerant" people too, I guess? those promoting "inclusiveness" and all that? 🤪
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logincrash wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 10:23
Buddy, have you been in a coma for the last decade?
If we point out they're hypocrites enough times, they'll surely change their ways.
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I'm late to the party, but, has anyone here actually played this fagassretardation of a game?

I'll admit I was a huge Bioware fan back in the olden days of yore. Even of Dragon Age Inquisition. Sure, it had copious amounts of lgbtqchopthepeepee mental retardation **** ... but you could skit around it more or less and still have an enjoyable experience with the game in the end.

Is there anything that is salvageable here? Or is the Dragon Age franchise utterly dead after this?

Just a few months ago, I was 90% sure I would play this game. It can't be THAT much worse than Inquisition, I thought. It seems I was wrong, very, very wrong. :(
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Ligrev wrote: December 4th, 2024, 18:17
has anyone here actually played this fagassretardation of a game?
@logincrash played through it and he was even documenting his experience in this thread (dozens of pages ago though). From what I gathered, it wasn't a pleasant ride. But I wasn't following every single post either.
Maybe he can come here and answer your questions after the ping.
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Ligrev wrote: December 4th, 2024, 18:17
I'm late to the party, but, has anyone here actually played this fagassretardation of a game?

I'll admit I was a huge Bioware fan back in the olden days of yore. Even of Dragon Age Inquisition. Sure, it had copious amounts of lgbtqchopthepeepee mental retardation **** ... but you could skit around it more or less and still have an enjoyable experience with the game in the end.

Is there anything that is salvageable here? Or is the Dragon Age franchise utterly dead after this?

Just a few months ago, I was 90% sure I would play this game. It can't be THAT much worse than Inquisition, I thought. It seems I was wrong, very, very wrong. :(
Played the game and it was irredeemable piece of ****. Worst game in the entire franchise with the most unapologetic progressive propaganda I have ever seen.


Avoid at all cost.
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Man, worst game in a franchise that has DA2 and Inquisition, holy ****.
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30 days in, mid-day currently playing dropped under 10k, will likely continue to decline.

For a AAA game, after only 30 days... Yet... reviews "mostly positive"? - fake reviews, scores and press.
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Entirely willing to believe the reviews are real, it's just many of the people who would have left negative reviews simply didn't buy it due to the negative pre-release coverage.

It's probably only a bit above 1 million total copies sold across all platforms.
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I'm glad we had game journalists around at release to tell us that akshually the game was selling tons of copies you bigots
https://fandomwire.com/somebody-over-at ... rs-record/

Do you think they'd just tell… blatant lies…?
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rusty_shackleford wrote: December 4th, 2024, 19:18
Entirely willing to believe the reviews are real, it's just many of the people who would have left negative reviews simply didn't buy it due to the negative pre-release coverage.

It's probably only a bit above 1 million total copies sold across all platforms.
I don't know, I am sure there are a lot of morons who "love the gayme", but from various comments I have seen from people watching the numbers on reviews, there is suspecting behavior going on, though likely due to loose steam policy. Reviews can be excluded which are "offensive" and a lot of people were complaining about their review being flagged simply because they complained about the overtly *****/gay messaging taking precedence in the game.

I would say it is a mix of both.
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Ligrev wrote: December 4th, 2024, 18:17
I'm late to the party, but, has anyone here actually played this fagassretardation of a game?

I'll admit I was a huge Bioware fan back in the olden days of yore. Even of Dragon Age Inquisition. Sure, it had copious amounts of lgbtqchopthepeepee mental retardation **** ... but you could skit around it more or less and still have an enjoyable experience with the game in the end.

Is there anything that is salvageable here? Or is the Dragon Age franchise utterly dead after this?

Just a few months ago, I was 90% sure I would play this game. It can't be THAT much worse than Inquisition, I thought. It seems I was wrong, very, very wrong. :(
It's ****. Not worth the seconds it'd take to find a torrent of it, nevermind actually downloading it.
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Ligrev wrote: December 4th, 2024, 18:17
I'm late to the party, but, has anyone here actually played this fagassretardation of a game?

I'll admit I was a huge Bioware fan back in the olden days of yore. Even of Dragon Age Inquisition. Sure, it had copious amounts of lgbtqchopthepeepee mental retardation **** ... but you could skit around it more or less and still have an enjoyable experience with the game in the end.

Is there anything that is salvageable here? Or is the Dragon Age franchise utterly dead after this?

Just a few months ago, I was 90% sure I would play this game. It can't be THAT much worse than Inquisition, I thought. It seems I was wrong, very, very wrong. :(
This about sums it up.

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Rejoice, there is now a free character creator for people to download and try out :)
It's on the steam page, show me your best characters!
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logincrash wrote: December 4th, 2024, 19:48
Ligrev wrote: December 4th, 2024, 18:17
I'm late to the party, but, has anyone here actually played this fagassretardation of a game?

I'll admit I was a huge Bioware fan back in the olden days of yore. Even of Dragon Age Inquisition. Sure, it had copious amounts of lgbtqchopthepeepee mental retardation **** ... but you could skit around it more or less and still have an enjoyable experience with the game in the end.

Is there anything that is salvageable here? Or is the Dragon Age franchise utterly dead after this?

Just a few months ago, I was 90% sure I would play this game. It can't be THAT much worse than Inquisition, I thought. It seems I was wrong, very, very wrong. :(
It's ****. Not worth the seconds it'd take to find a torrent of it, nevermind actually downloading it.
Avoid at all costs and just pretend the series ended at any of the previous games.
A shame they only made 1 Dragon Age game, at least it got an expansion, I suppose.
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Copin' https://www.eurogamer.net/the-big-drago ... ples-minds
How has the commercial response to the game been? I've seen stories about sales and they seem mixed - inconclusive. The game seems to be doing okay but struggling to keep pace with Inquisition before it. Has it been a success from your point of view - how do you measure that?

Busche: There's three axes we can measure this by: what the team was able to do and put together - the pride that they can take in that; every game that is made, especially in the triple-A space where you're talking hundreds of developers, timelines, is a miracle. That they executed at quality: internally we consider that a success.

We're very happy with the critical reception to the game. It's not common to have these challenging development cycles and have a team turn around and receive the critical reception that it did. In fact, in a lot of ways, that is the harder path to take. So yeah, we're quite proud of the critical reception.

Unfortunately on the sales side, that's not something we can really discuss, but of course as we know with Inquisition, that was a long burn to get to those total sales numbers.
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Roguey wrote: December 5th, 2024, 00:53
Unfortunately on the sales side, that's not something we can really discuss, but of course as we know with Inquisition, that was a long burn to get to those total sales numbers.
accidentally admitting that most of inquisition's "MASSIVE SALES NUMBERS" were exactly as people suspected: when the game was on sale for a dollar.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: December 5th, 2024, 05:17
Roguey wrote: December 5th, 2024, 00:53
Unfortunately on the sales side, that's not something we can really discuss, but of course as we know with Inquisition, that was a long burn to get to those total sales numbers.
accidentally admitting that most of inquisition's "MASSIVE SALES NUMBERS" were exactly as people suspected: when the game was on sale for a dollar.
I don't remember it doing well when it came out which is why hearing people go on about it being a huge success was a bit confusing to me. It being due to dollar sales makes sense now.
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Xenich wrote: December 4th, 2024, 21:15


This about sums it up.

The fact that the dialogue in Veilguard does not sound out of place with Family Guy speaks volumes to how terrible the writing is.
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https://time.com/7199868/best-video-games-2024/
Between Elder Scrolls and Baldur’s Gate 3, there’s been no shortage of great high-fantasy RPGs to play. It had been a decade since Dragon Age: Inquisition, and despite an incredible run for developer BioWare, their last decade was marred by the canceled game Shadow Realms, the disappointing Mass Effect: Andromeda, and a disastrous foray into MMOs with Anthem. There was reason to wonder if BioWare still had the sauce to return to Dragon Age. Boy, did they ever. Dragon Age: The Veilguard comes out swinging, and BioWare clearly had something to prove.

While some may miss the more politically charged narrative of its predecessor, The Veilguard feels like a refreshing addition to the series that’s still heavy on lore but doesn’t feel too dense to distract from the pure pleasure of killing demons. If there’s a single word to describe Dragon Age: The Veilguard that signifies its place as TIME’s game of the year it would be: fulfilling.
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Thanks, very cool TIME Magazine.
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Acrux wrote: December 6th, 2024, 02:59
Thanks, very cool TIME Magazine.
And these rags wonder why nobody takes them seriously and why all their staff keeps getting layoff.
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Someone's check finally cleared, but Bioware is way out of touch if they think this post-wall has-been has any kind of influence today.



On a lark I counted the number of core devs on Veilguard and got to about 300. With rough estimate of those salaries and doubling that for the marketing budget, if they're writing off all the pre-2021 work as a loss, they need to sell 5 million full price copies to break even (which is what a number of other people around the internet have previously said).
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Roguey wrote: December 6th, 2024, 16:08
Someone's check finally cleared, but Bioware is way out of touch if they think this post-wall has-been has any kind of influence today.



On a lark I counted the number of core devs on Veilguard and got to about 300. With rough estimate of those salaries and doubling that for the marketing budget, if they're writing off all the pre-2021 work as a loss, they need to sell 5 million full price copies to break even (which is what a number of other people around the internet have previously said).
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They couldn't afford to get Will Wheaton and complete the irrelevant nerd icon duo?
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Tangerine wrote: December 6th, 2024, 16:18
They couldn't afford to get Will Wheaton and complete the irrelevant nerd icon duo?
Probably busy doing a new voice piece for DDO on a module he never played and how it changed his life.
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