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What game should we play in December?

Poll ended at December 1st, 2024, 02:59

Deus Ex: Invisible War
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26%
Eye of the Beholder
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Gothic
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Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords
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Mass Effect
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26%
The Witcher
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7%
Underrail
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7%
 
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boot wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 02:16
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Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 10:03
Valter wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 09:55

I see how it heavily favours stealth like some others already said, however now that I got the EMP-on-weapons biochip, beating those piece of **** bots back to the scrapyard is pretty satisfying.
If there one thing I dislike a lot in IW it’s the universal ammo system . It really limits how much you can use different weapons and forces you to do stealth for the most optimal experience.
I didn't pay much attention to it in the beginning, then I ran out of what I thought was only shotgun ammo. Had to replay a bit to save some.
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1998 wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 10:05
Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 10:03
Valter wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 09:55

I see how it heavily favours stealth like some others already said, however now that I got the EMP-on-weapons biochip, beating those piece of **** bots back to the scrapyard is pretty satisfying.
If there one thing I dislike a lot in IW it’s the universal ammo system . It really limits how much you can use different weapons and forces you to do stealth for the most optimal experience.
I didn't pay much attention to it in the beginning, then I ran out of what I thought was only shotgun ammo. Had to replay a bit to save some.
Oh god you just reminded me of the existential crisis I experienced when I realized the stun baton used ammo :shock:
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Valter wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 11:25
Oh god you just reminded me of the existential crisis I experienced when I realized the stun baton used ammo :shock:
I was so disappointed by it. When I first got it, I thought "Jackpot! Now I can do quick non-lethal takedowns." But it was faster to just beat the enemies into unconsciousness with the plastic nightstick you get at the very start.
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Turns out you can climb ledges. Hold down the Spacebar and Alex will mount a ledge which lets you get into a lot of high places and find secrets.
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Valter wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 11:25
1998 wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 10:05
Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 10:03


If there one thing I dislike a lot in IW it’s the universal ammo system . It really limits how much you can use different weapons and forces you to do stealth for the most optimal experience.
I didn't pay much attention to it in the beginning, then I ran out of what I thought was only shotgun ammo. Had to replay a bit to save some.
Oh god you just reminded me of the existential crisis I experienced when I realized the stun baton used ammo :shock:
I upgraded melee first and then got the EMP upgrade, you can easily kill enemies and robots in melee this way. Still haven't continued so It's still the end of seattle but neither the crowbar nor the police baton uses ammo, the sword uses your battery.

But with this, so far it seems, you can easily balance out any needs for ammunition.
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logincrash wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 11:52
Turns out you can climb ledges. Hold down the Spacebar and Alex will mount a ledge which lets you get into a lot of high places and find secrets.
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This boltcaster is as stealthy as the crossbow with tranqdarts was in the first game. They enemies just start running around panicking. It's very surprising how easy it is to just sneak up and cave somebody's skull in instead.
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Will I be able to sell all these guns and grenades and mines and booze I'm picking up left and right? Or is it all just junk that I'm hauling around for no reason?
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logincrash wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 14:32
Will I be able to sell all these guns and grenades and mines and booze I'm picking up left and right? Or is it all just junk that I'm hauling around for no reason?
I haven't found a way to sell it but I also didn't know how to activate powers until an hour in I'm bad at video games
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Also, is there a good lightweight program for taking screenshots? I praised ReShade for this exact function, but turns out this game is too old for it and requires jumping through hoops. I installed all the required ****, but them the game just wouldn't load past the intro movies and would just crash to desktop.
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Nooneatall wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 14:35
logincrash wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 14:32
Will I be able to sell all these guns and grenades and mines and booze I'm picking up left and right? Or is it all just junk that I'm hauling around for no reason?
I haven't found a way to sell it but I also didn't know how to activate powers until an hour in I'm bad at video games
I found a black market alien muslim but he only sells stuff and doesn't buy it.
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logincrash wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 14:39
Also, is there a good lightweight program for taking screenshots? I praised ReShade for this exact function, but turns out this game is too old for it and requires jumping through hoops. I installed all the required ****, but them the game just wouldn't load past the intro movies and would just crash to desktop.
Pressing PrintScreen and then Alt+Tabbing to Paint every time I want to take a screenshot is a huge pain in the ***.
Nooneatall wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 14:35
logincrash wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 14:32
Will I be able to sell all these guns and grenades and mines and booze I'm picking up left and right? Or is it all just junk that I'm hauling around for no reason?
I haven't found a way to sell it but I also didn't know how to activate powers until an hour in I'm bad at video games
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Nooneatall wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 14:50
logincrash wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 14:39
Also, is there a good lightweight program for taking screenshots? I praised ReShade for this exact function, but turns out this game is too old for it and requires jumping through hoops. I installed all the required ****, but them the game just wouldn't load past the intro movies and would just crash to desktop.
Pressing PrintScreen and then Alt+Tabbing to Paint every time I want to take a screenshot is a huge pain in the ***.
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I haven't found a way to sell it but I also didn't know how to activate powers until an hour in I'm bad at video games
I found a black market alien muslim but he only sells stuff and doesn't buy it.
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logincrash wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 14:52
Nooneatall wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 14:50
logincrash wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 14:39
Also, is there a good lightweight program for taking screenshots? I praised ReShade for this exact function, but turns out this game is too old for it and requires jumping through hoops. I installed all the required ****, but them the game just wouldn't load past the intro movies and would just crash to desktop.
Pressing PrintScreen and then Alt+Tabbing to Paint every time I want to take a screenshot is a huge pain in the ***.

I found a black market alien muslim but he only sells stuff and doesn't buy it.
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Is it because you're green or is it actually a good program?
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If you don't need a lot of screenshots, PrtScn -> Alt+Tab -> Paste works as well.
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Vault has integration with ShareX, grab the config from the sidebar. It's windows only so I don't use it tho, but @WhiteShark does I think.
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Nooneatall wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 14:50
https://getgreenshot.org/
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Just tried it out. Works beautifully.
J1M wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 15:01
If you don't need a lot of screenshots, PrtScn -> Alt+Tab -> Paste works as well.
Nah, this is exactly the kind of fiddling that I'm trying to avoid.
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logincrash wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 14:39
Nooneatall wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 14:35
logincrash wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 14:32
Will I be able to sell all these guns and grenades and mines and booze I'm picking up left and right? Or is it all just junk that I'm hauling around for no reason?
I haven't found a way to sell it but I also didn't know how to activate powers until an hour in I'm bad at video games
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Don't think you can sell anything. Guess if I would have bought something at that mudslime it would be game over because I could not pay off the pilot?!
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1998 wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 15:42
Guess if I would have bought something at that mudslime it would be game over because I could not pay off the pilot?!
Not sure about the pilot. But the Omar sells an SMG, a black bio-canister and something else. You can get a 50% discount AND a free black canister if you scan a grey alien in the nightclub basement.
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1998 wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 15:42
logincrash wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 14:39
Nooneatall wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 14:35


I haven't found a way to sell it but I also didn't know how to activate powers until an hour in I'm bad at video games
I found a black market alien muslim but he only sells stuff and doesn't buy it.
Don't think you can sell anything. Guess if I would have bought something at that mudslime it would be game over because I could not pay off the pilot?!
You can get a pilot for free
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Nooneatall wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 15:53
1998 wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 15:42
logincrash wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 14:39

I found a black market alien muslim but he only sells stuff and doesn't buy it.
Don't think you can sell anything. Guess if I would have bought something at that mudslime it would be game over because I could not pay off the pilot?!
You can get a pilot for free
Not just any pilot.

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Dropped the game. Way too annoying with all these ******* loading screens every 2 minutes. Go get my jet back. Ok, leaving bar (loading screen) walking to the apartments (loading screen) little bit of gameplay, go to hangar (loading screen) do ****, go back (loading screen) walk to inclinator area (loading screen) go to bar (loading screen) done with everything, leave bar (loading screen), go to apartments (loading screen), hop aboard jet (loading screen)
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Finarfin wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 19:30
Dropped the game. Way too annoying with all these ******* loading screens every 2 minutes. Go get my jet back. Ok, leaving bar (loading screen) walking to the apartments (loading screen) little bit of gameplay, go to hangar (loading screen) do ****, go back (loading screen) walk to inclinator area (loading screen) go to bar (loading screen) done with everything, leave bar (loading screen), go to apartments (loading screen), hop aboard jet (loading screen)
I'm close to dropping it for this exact reason too. The levels are just too tiny.
Might just play through Alpha Protocol instead.
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In what you might call a fit of rage, I deleted the game along with all the save files.
I've reinstalled it now and will just rush through it without doing any side missions or anything else. Just the main missions and that's it.
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Finarfin wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 20:01
In what you might call a fit of rage, I deleted the game along with all the save files.
I've reinstalled it now and will just rush through it without doing any side missions or anything else. Just the main missions and that's it.
With level 3 speed enhancement this will take you 15 minutes plus loading screen time.
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I'm at the templar base I think I'm halfway through. I wish you all would have voted Kotor instead
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You get what you voted for. :smug:
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A lot of the biomods are somewhat lackluster. I guess this is one way of dealing with the problem caused by them being mutually exclusive. The only choice that I find particularly difficult is the arm slot (Strength, Bot Domination). Maybe because both of those options (throwing heavy objects and bot mayhem) are fun to perform rather than resource conversion/efficiency.

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Alright, speedran to the helicopter part, helped Ava Johnson and now i'm at the Mako Facility.
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