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reminder that the game is unfinished, ends abruptly, half the city is missing, entire zones are missing, ending is completely railroaded, and a ton of content they showcased weeks before launch never got added and won't be added
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rusty_shackleford wrote: November 27th, 2024, 22:00
reminder that the game is unfinished, ends abruptly, half the city is missing, entire zones are missing, ending is completely railroaded, and a ton of content they showcased weeks before launch never got added and won't be added
Which is why I'll only replay the game in 5-10 years, when hopefully there is a proper Content Restoration/Unfinished Business 3 mod or new campaigns released. These new subclasses are not enough for me to replay the same content all over again.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: November 27th, 2024, 22:00
reminder that the game is unfinished, ends abruptly, half the city is missing, entire zones are missing, ending is completely railroaded, and a ton of content they showcased weeks before launch never got added and won't be added
Retroactively lowering my score to 7/10 because I gave it a higher score due to assuming they'd release another definitive edition like Divinity 2, DOS1, and DOS2 that finishes the game. IIRC I mentioned in my score that you should wait to play it until that released, and well…
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Tag365 wrote: November 27th, 2024, 21:26
Yeah, looks like 12 subclasses will be added soon, one for each of the 12 classes. That's exciting and unexpected new content.
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Good God i hate this character so much.
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I was informed by a little birdy that Baudelaire Welch, the 'senior narrative designer'(wrote the romances & re-wrote the main story mid-development) was let go back in August. She joined Larian in 2022.
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https://archive.ph/ZGU3S
"Why did it make such an impact on people?" Welch went on to say in their talk. "This is what it meant to me when I was involved in Baldur's Gate 3. This scene feels like a watershed moment in game history where the fanfiction community feels like they're not a subculture but are the majority audience being catered to in a scene and in the game as a whole.

"In order to reach out to that part of the community, Larian gave them an incredibly silly sequence that takes an identity moniker from the gay community - literally the gay bear becomes the bear (if no one has actually made the connection before) - and that is giving players something that feels like it's from the tradition of fanfic, or just something from your Discord ****-posting hole, and presenting it as a mainstream feature. And that feels like all the time you spent joking with your friends is validated. And how many games of this kind of scale have made you feel that way before?"

Welch's Develop presentation talked a lot about the importance of fanfiction for games. "Romance is one of the longest-tail parts of a fandom you can create," Welch said. "People will write about a good romance in fanfiction for years to come." It's the sort of discussion that sustains a game's community for a very long time - far longer than the main storylines themselves. The fanfiction community also appeals to female and LGBTQIA+ players in particular, Welch said - the sort of community that's propelled the collective love-in around Baldur's Gate 3 since it launched nearly a year ago.
:yuck:
"I don't think there were specific plans for him to be a love interest," Welch told me in a follow-up interview after their talk. However, the fanfiction community surrounding the game was clear about what they wanted, and what they wanted was "daddy Halsin". Welch knew this because they themselves were a part of that community. They'd written Astarion fanfiction before applying to work at the studio, and were partially hired for their embedded knowledge about what that community wanted (they also have a game design background alongside this).
Literally hired a fujoshi fanfic writer to make the game worse, thanks, I now hate all women.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: December 8th, 2024, 00:50
https://archive.ph/ZGU3S
"Why did it make such an impact on people?" Welch went on to say in their talk. "This is what it meant to me when I was involved in Baldur's Gate 3. This scene feels like a watershed moment in game history where the fanfiction community feels like they're not a subculture but are the majority audience being catered to in a scene and in the game as a whole.

"In order to reach out to that part of the community, Larian gave them an incredibly silly sequence that takes an identity moniker from the gay community - literally the gay bear becomes the bear (if no one has actually made the connection before) - and that is giving players something that feels like it's from the tradition of fanfic, or just something from your Discord ****-posting hole, and presenting it as a mainstream feature. And that feels like all the time you spent joking with your friends is validated. And how many games of this kind of scale have made you feel that way before?"

Welch's Develop presentation talked a lot about the importance of fanfiction for games. "Romance is one of the longest-tail parts of a fandom you can create," Welch said. "People will write about a good romance in fanfiction for years to come." It's the sort of discussion that sustains a game's community for a very long time - far longer than the main storylines themselves. The fanfiction community also appeals to female and LGBTQIA+ players in particular, Welch said - the sort of community that's propelled the collective love-in around Baldur's Gate 3 since it launched nearly a year ago.
:yuck:
"I don't think there were specific plans for him to be a love interest," Welch told me in a follow-up interview after their talk. However, the fanfiction community surrounding the game was clear about what they wanted, and what they wanted was "daddy Halsin". Welch knew this because they themselves were a part of that community. They'd written Astarion fanfiction before applying to work at the studio, and were partially hired for their embedded knowledge about what that community wanted (they also have a game design background alongside this).
Literally hired a fujoshi fanfic writer to make the game worse, thanks, I now hate all women.
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Not sure if anyone posted it already but someone fixed the Karlach scene when you romance her.
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Legit no good reason to not kill all women.
I'm just stating the facts.
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Vergil wrote: December 8th, 2024, 01:30
Legit no good reason to not kill all women.
You should just accept the fact that you're gay, or go back into the closet.
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LemonDemonGirl wrote: December 8th, 2024, 01:32
Vergil wrote: December 8th, 2024, 01:30
Legit no good reason to not kill all women.
You should just accept the fact that you're gay, or go back into the closet.
How am I gay exactly?
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pol_345polex wrote: December 2nd, 2024, 17:11
Good God i hate this character so much.
who is this character? I never met her before :scratch:
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orinEsque wrote: December 8th, 2024, 05:08
pol_345polex wrote: December 2nd, 2024, 17:11
Good God i hate this character so much.
who is this character? I never met her before :scratch:
This is probably true considering you modded half the game before playing it first hand you autist :lol:
I'm just stating the facts.
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Vergil wrote: December 8th, 2024, 05:20
orinEsque wrote: December 8th, 2024, 05:08
pol_345polex wrote: December 2nd, 2024, 17:11


Good God i hate this character so much.
who is this character? I never met her before :scratch:
This is probably true considering you modded half the game before playing it first hand you autist :lol:
Indeed, a skilled programmer does not need to know/see a ****** to fix it :twisted:
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orinEsque wrote: December 8th, 2024, 05:21
Vergil wrote: December 8th, 2024, 05:20
orinEsque wrote: December 8th, 2024, 05:08


who is this character? I never met her before :scratch:
This is probably true considering you modded half the game before playing it first hand you autist :lol:
Indeed, a skilled programmer does not need to know an NPC to detroon it :twisted:
Actually this was by definition a ***** mod considering you transitioned the nightsong from female to male :scratch:
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Vergil wrote: December 8th, 2024, 05:23
orinEsque wrote: December 8th, 2024, 05:21
Vergil wrote: December 8th, 2024, 05:20

This is probably true considering you modded half the game before playing it first hand you autist :lol:
Indeed, a skilled programmer does not need to know an NPC to detroon it :twisted:
Actually this was by definition a ***** mod considering you transitioned the nightsong from female to male :scratch:
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rusty_shackleford wrote: November 28th, 2024, 15:45
rusty_shackleford wrote: November 27th, 2024, 22:00
reminder that the game is unfinished, ends abruptly, half the city is missing, entire zones are missing, ending is completely railroaded, and a ton of content they showcased weeks before launch never got added and won't be added
Retroactively lowering my score to 7/10 because I gave it a higher score due to assuming they'd release another definitive edition like Divinity 2, DOS1, and DOS2 that finishes the game. IIRC I mentioned in my score that you should wait to play it until that released, and well…
That's literally why I dropped it at the start of Act 2.
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Statesman wrote: November 28th, 2024, 15:36

Which is why I'll only replay the game in 5-10 years, when hopefully there is a proper Content Restoration/Unfinished Business 3 mod or new campaigns released. These new subclasses are not enough for me to replay the same content all over again.
Probably not gonna wait that long, but I've again run into a "why am I playing this" phase (chapter 3, chapter 1 is "yes! this game is good."; chapter 2 is "OK, but I liked chapter 1 better....") and think I will uninstall the game for now.
@rusty_shackleford /@orinEsque , am I to understand that the BG mod manager has been updated so that it works with patch 7 (and hopefully beyond)? I am still at patch 6, since I haven't played the game much since about the release of patch 7, and got the impression that it was safest to stick with patch 6 a while longer, at least if one was in the middle of a playthrough.
I just can't bear to play chapter 3. The entire BG city must be rewritten for that to happen, I am afraid... :groan:
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rusty_shackleford wrote: December 8th, 2024, 00:45
I was informed by a little birdy that Baudelaire Welch, the 'senior narrative designer'(wrote the romances & re-wrote the main story mid-development) was let go back in August. She joined Larian in 2022.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: December 8th, 2024, 00:50
fujoshi wrote:
"People will write about a good romance in fanfiction for years to come." It's the sort of discussion that sustains a game's community for a very long time - far longer than the main storylines themselves.
I don't think this is true. People still discuss the plots of New Vegas, KotOR II, and probably countless other games with intriguing stories and characters that I'm forgetting, and that's wholly aside from any romance elements.
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WhiteShark wrote: December 8th, 2024, 19:54
I don't think this is true. People still discuss the plots of New Vegas, KotOR II, and probably countless other games with intriguing stories and characters that I'm forgetting, and that's wholly aside from any romance elements.
You have to understand these people live in discord echo chambers.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: December 8th, 2024, 00:45
I was informed by a little birdy that Baudelaire Welch, the 'senior narrative designer'(wrote the romances & re-wrote the main story mid-development) was let go back in August. She joined Larian in 2022.
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1998 wrote: December 9th, 2024, 09:53
rusty_shackleford wrote: December 8th, 2024, 00:45
I was informed by a little birdy that Baudelaire Welch, the 'senior narrative designer'(wrote the romances & re-wrote the main story mid-development) was let go back in August. She joined Larian in 2022.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: December 8th, 2024, 00:50
https://archive.ph/ZGU3S
"In order to reach out to that part of the community, Larian gave them an incredibly silly sequence that takes an identity moniker from the gay community - literally the gay bear becomes the bear
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Apologies if anybody posted this already somewhere here, I don't read HQ much, but in case not I guess you'd appreciate it


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Konjad wrote: January 1st, 2025, 16:28
Apologies if anybody posted this already somewhere here, I don't read HQ much, but in case not I guess you'd appreciate it


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Wow, 20 pages! That will be a fun read, thanks!