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The_Mask wrote: ↑ November 25th, 2024, 15:12
Can you imagine having to type that whole spiel because one dumb broad doesn't know what she's doing?

It's absolutely appalling...
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Tweed wrote: ↑ November 25th, 2024, 15:13
Rusty strikes me as the kind of person who gets a tingly pp from that kind of thing.
I think it's the other way around. I think it's the broad that got wet thinking she's owning the nazis or whatever goes through her noggin
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The_Mask wrote: ↑ November 25th, 2024, 15:15
Tweed wrote: ↑ November 25th, 2024, 15:13
Rusty strikes me as the kind of person who gets a tingly pp from that kind of thing.
I think it's the other way around. I think it's the broad that got wet thinking she's owning the nazis or whatever goes through her noggin
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Hm one could argue the data on here is publicly available (though still bad ethics to not ask), however putting words into Rusty's mouth, especially in DIRECT QUOTES and in bad faith, is an absolute nono.
Depending on the topic, that could put someone at extreme risk if it became public and someone (who's actually radical) targeted him for it, or at very least be some sort of defamation?

Also lol at these *****, such a clear subjective viewpoint, too. From complaining about people restricting what they do in the bedroom, to restricting what people do in their bedroom (with their own game, while gaming, in single player, ffs).

Looks like there's these major points:
- Misrepresented as "Leader". Implies a figure of some group, pushing some agenda, not "administration". Incorrect, and paints a target on him.
- Defamed due to direct, intentional false quote.
- Left at risk from actual radicals, due to direct, intentional false quote on a politically charged topic. (the fact he's said other stuff that results in the same should be moot)
- The fact a false quote was used, very specifically with "Claims", and in quotation marks, with no "(our interpretation)" or similar, despite the fact Rusty demonstrably never said those words.
- Anonymisation not applied to Rusty. Targeting him as the "leader" specifically singles him out. "Administration" could at least sort of apply to the mods.
- The fact data was harvested without consent, or chance to give official comment. (Though publicly available, it's still bad form / ethics).

Now whether it's an official "peer reviewed" paper or not, surely if a uni opted to allow such to be published after receiving a complaint, that would leave the UNI culpable.
Sue their stinking woundholes off, @rusty_shackleford. IF they still allowed that to be published without edits, a good Jew lawyer should be able to get you megabucks.

There's one thing making an interpretation or forming an opinion, but outright ******* LYING on such a topic is another entirely.
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BobT wrote: ↑ November 25th, 2024, 19:21
Hm one could argue the data on here is publicly available, however putting words into Rusty's mouth, especially in DIRECT QUOTES and in bad faith, is an absolute nono.
Depending on the topic, that could put someone at extreme risk if it became public and someone (who's actually radical) targeted him for it, or at very least be some sort of defamation?

Also lol at these *****, such a clear subjective viewpoint, too. From complaining about people restricting what they do in the bedroom, to restricting what people do in their bedroom (with their own game, while gaming, in single player, ffs).
All content posted here is owned by the creator unless they decide to waive that right. Copyright in USA is automatic.

What you're perhaps referring to is an implied license. This would cover someone quoting your post to reply to it, not someone taking your post and using it as part of their research.

As our terms of service lays out what I can do with the license all of you grant to me for content posted, it therefore also implies what those who don't have a license for the content are prohibited from doing.
With regards to fair use: The content itself has value and the researcher using it without my consent decreases the value by robbing me of its uniqueness. The author acknowledged the uniqueness and rarity of the dataset.
As I refuse to run ads or trackers on my platform, I likewise refuse to give permission for data to be scraped and used in research.

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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ November 25th, 2024, 20:36
BobT wrote: ↑ November 25th, 2024, 19:21
Hm one could argue the data on here is publicly available, however putting words into Rusty's mouth, especially in DIRECT QUOTES and in bad faith, is an absolute nono.
Depending on the topic, that could put someone at extreme risk if it became public and someone (who's actually radical) targeted him for it, or at very least be some sort of defamation?

Also lol at these *****, such a clear subjective viewpoint, too. From complaining about people restricting what they do in the bedroom, to restricting what people do in their bedroom (with their own game, while gaming, in single player, ffs).
All content posted here is owned by the creator unless they decide to waive that right. Copyright in USA is automatic.

What you're perhaps referring to is an implied license. This would cover someone quoting your post to reply to it, not someone taking your post and using it as part of their research.

As our terms of service lays out what I can do with the license all of you grant to me for content posted, it therefore also implies what those who don't have a license for the content are prohibited from doing.
With regards to fair use: The content itself has value and the researcher using it without my consent decreases the value by robbing me of its uniqueness. The author acknowledged the uniqueness and rarity of the dataset.
As I refuse to run ads or trackers on my platform, I likewise refuse to give permission for data to be scraped and used in research.

This is my domain, and I sit upon my golden throne built of content as a dragon slumbers upon its hoard of gold. Neither I, nor the dragon, have an obligation to reduce the value of our treasures :turtle:


Considering my position right now, I have to respond to these sorts of posts carefully.
Just reading your letter now. Good bloody point on them harvesting stuff from the members-only sections. That's not exactly fully "publicly available", indeed.
I understand GDPR but how does that work when it's an entity operating in Europe that's at fault, using data from overseas? I'd have thought GDPR and all the "rights" would still apply, due to the country that it's operating in?
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BobT wrote: ↑ November 25th, 2024, 20:45
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ November 25th, 2024, 20:36
BobT wrote: ↑ November 25th, 2024, 19:21
Hm one could argue the data on here is publicly available, however putting words into Rusty's mouth, especially in DIRECT QUOTES and in bad faith, is an absolute nono.
Depending on the topic, that could put someone at extreme risk if it became public and someone (who's actually radical) targeted him for it, or at very least be some sort of defamation?

Also lol at these *****, such a clear subjective viewpoint, too. From complaining about people restricting what they do in the bedroom, to restricting what people do in their bedroom (with their own game, while gaming, in single player, ffs).
All content posted here is owned by the creator unless they decide to waive that right. Copyright in USA is automatic.

What you're perhaps referring to is an implied license. This would cover someone quoting your post to reply to it, not someone taking your post and using it as part of their research.

As our terms of service lays out what I can do with the license all of you grant to me for content posted, it therefore also implies what those who don't have a license for the content are prohibited from doing.
With regards to fair use: The content itself has value and the researcher using it without my consent decreases the value by robbing me of its uniqueness. The author acknowledged the uniqueness and rarity of the dataset.
As I refuse to run ads or trackers on my platform, I likewise refuse to give permission for data to be scraped and used in research.

This is my domain, and I sit upon my golden throne built of content as a dragon slumbers upon its hoard of gold. Neither I, nor the dragon, have an obligation to reduce the value of our treasures :turtle:


Considering my position right now, I have to respond to these sorts of posts carefully.
Just reading your letter now. Good bloody point on them harvesting stuff from the members-only sections. That's not exactly fully "publicly available", indeed.
I understand GDPR but how does that work when it's an entity operating in Europe that's at fault, using data from overseas? I'd have thought GDPR and all the "rights" would still apply, due to the country that it's operating in?
I don't see how the GDPR would apply here.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ November 25th, 2024, 20:47
BobT wrote: ↑ November 25th, 2024, 20:45
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ November 25th, 2024, 20:36


All content posted here is owned by the creator unless they decide to waive that right. Copyright in USA is automatic.

What you're perhaps referring to is an implied license. This would cover someone quoting your post to reply to it, not someone taking your post and using it as part of their research.

As our terms of service lays out what I can do with the license all of you grant to me for content posted, it therefore also implies what those who don't have a license for the content are prohibited from doing.
With regards to fair use: The content itself has value and the researcher using it without my consent decreases the value by robbing me of its uniqueness. The author acknowledged the uniqueness and rarity of the dataset.
As I refuse to run ads or trackers on my platform, I likewise refuse to give permission for data to be scraped and used in research.

This is my domain, and I sit upon my golden throne built of content as a dragon slumbers upon its hoard of gold. Neither I, nor the dragon, have an obligation to reduce the value of our treasures :turtle:


Considering my position right now, I have to respond to these sorts of posts carefully.
Just reading your letter now. Good bloody point on them harvesting stuff from the members-only sections. That's not exactly fully "publicly available", indeed.
I understand GDPR but how does that work when it's an entity operating in Europe that's at fault, using data from overseas? I'd have thought GDPR and all the "rights" would still apply, due to the country that it's operating in?
I don't see how the GDPR would apply here.
Just wondered about the legitimate use / consent for processing data, and "right to be forgotten". Though I guess that only applies to "personal" data.
Not that it matters as everything you wrote trumps that, but curious whether it would add-on. The ****(s) are operating from Germany so, wonder if they're still bound by it if the complainant is overseas.

Nice letter, btw. This is one of those things that one MUST defend, like copyright sorta stuff. Presuming it can become "implied consent" if don't vehemently defend each breach.

Considering the "master thesis" I wonder, could you demand a full copy of her work? Or at least all the data she holds from here. If the argument is it's "your" data, might have the right to force them to hand it over, too.
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What a waste of money. Shame that higher education is free in Germany.

"As a long-time video game enthusiast, she is deeply convinced that gaming has enormous potential as a social space and deserves a better socio-political understanding. Her work at the Amadeu Antonio Foundation aims to promote inclusive and more democratic gaming communities. The foundation has been consistently campaigning against right-wing extremism, racism and anti-Semitism since 1998."
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Like anyone thinks for an instant that a paper like this is written in good faith.
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Tweed wrote: ↑ November 26th, 2024, 09:27
Like anyone thinks for an instant that a paper like this is written in good faith.
At least they are not pretending (anymore). Its very clear from their mission statement what that the results came before their "research".
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Well, have you contacted her or the university yet?
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Lord of Riva wrote: ↑ November 26th, 2024, 09:49
Well, have you contacted her or the university yet?
I made a newspost to be able to find it more easily
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Perhaps you are also interest in her only other publication Getting Respect in Germany

https://edoc.hu-berlin.de/items/fb71d6f ... 66ad6d792f

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Are all papers from German universities written in English now?
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WhiteShark wrote: ↑ November 26th, 2024, 13:15
Are all papers from German universities written in English now?
I think the authors of these things are expecting people from other countries to read them.
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WhiteShark wrote: ↑ November 26th, 2024, 13:15
Are all papers from German universities written in English now?
According to my wife that is not the case (she is a physicist) however there are different language studies possible, the University of my wife had Physics in english others have german language.

In other words it depends on both the field and the specific course(s) of the University. How that applies to social non-science studies is anyone's guess though.
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1998 wrote: ↑ November 26th, 2024, 09:20
What a waste of money. Shame that higher education is free in Germany.

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To all the oldheads on here, if you were to guess what percentage of the current gay-mer audience is made of people who played games since the 90s, what number would you arrive at? I find it hard to believe that any "real" gamer whose played games since then would be a libtoid freak such as this particular specimen.
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Bing_xiLim wrote: ↑ November 30th, 2024, 08:03
1998 wrote: ↑ November 26th, 2024, 09:20
What a waste of money. Shame that higher education is free in Germany.

"As a long-time video game enthusiast, she is deeply convinced that gaming has enormous potential as a social space and deserves a better socio-political understanding. Her work at the Amadeu Antonio Foundation aims to promote inclusive and more democratic gaming communities. The foundation has been consistently campaigning against right-wing extremism, racism and anti-Semitism since 1998."
To all the oldheads on here, if you were to guess what percentage of the current gay-mer audience is made of people who played games since the 90s, what number would you arrive at? I find it hard to believe that any "real" gamer whose played games since then would be a libtoid freak such as this particular specimen.
That's quite a hard guess. I think about a third perhaps? Most "real" gamers have not stopped playing, so they're quite a few. However gaming has gone mainstream, and a huge amount of people have come in, those being born later and just those who may have come to playing games later in their life. (not counting mobile ******* of course)
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boot wrote: ↑ November 30th, 2024, 12:29
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Lord of Riva wrote: ↑ November 26th, 2024, 15:13
WhiteShark wrote: ↑ November 26th, 2024, 13:15
Are all papers from German universities written in English now?
According to my wife that is not the case (she is a physicist) however there are different language studies possible, the University of my wife had Physics in english others have german language.

In other words it depends on both the field and the specific course(s) of the University. How that applies to social non-science studies is anyone's guess though.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ November 25th, 2024, 20:36
All content posted here is owned by the creator unless they decide to waive that right.
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maidenhaver wrote: ↑ November 30th, 2024, 13:20
Lord of Riva wrote: ↑ November 26th, 2024, 15:13
WhiteShark wrote: ↑ November 26th, 2024, 13:15
Are all papers from German universities written in English now?
According to my wife that is not the case (she is a physicist) however there are different language studies possible, the University of my wife had Physics in english others have german language.

In other words it depends on both the field and the specific course(s) of the University. How that applies to social non-science studies is anyone's guess though.
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Bing_xiLim wrote: ↑ November 30th, 2024, 08:03
To all the oldheads on here, if you were to guess what percentage of the current gay-mer audience is made of people who played games since the 90s, what number would you arrive at? I find it hard to believe that any "real" gamer whose played games since then would be a libtoid freak such as this particular specimen.
Considering how the population of western countries skews toward the 30+ age range (apparently the average US gamer age is 36), I wouldn't be surprised if that number was close to 50%. Even more when you consider that even people born 1999+ could have grown playing older games. With that said, I'm not sure that age has much to do with it. I've never met a libtard gamer, in fact most would easily fit in here outside their genre preferences.

TLDR - You should stick to using gaymer as the term for the mobile gachas/Fortnite/social media crowd and gamer for those that play actual games.
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I'm from France (yet not a French thank God), so I'm breaking ToS I guess πŸ˜…

But truth is, in EU we don't have free speech. Controled speech is more accurate. You can have legal attacks for "hateful" comments. So while France pretends to be the land of free men, it is not true. Germany is worse since they are way more into the woke and sucking migrant dicks.
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7Trickster wrote: ↑ December 5th, 2024, 05:58
I'm from France (yet not a French
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logincrash wrote: ↑ December 5th, 2024, 06:10
7Trickster wrote: ↑ December 5th, 2024, 05:58
I'm from France (yet not a French
People like you are the problem.
My parents came in the 70s, respect the culture and so do I.
I just don't feel any real connection to the people or the country because (to sum it up), it reeks of laziness, sheep behavior and a huge lack of real patriots. Portuguese folk love their country and culture, a lot of Frenchies clearly don't give a rats *** by being replaced in a few decades with blackies and arabs who REALLY don't respect France.

I studied, have a respectable job, own a property... I'm far from being the problem. More like they take away my hard earned cash to sustain Ursula and her self-made problems (***** Angela Merkel was in that business aswell).

I just don't recognize myself in the country I was born and grew up in. Would be the same in my parents' country too, it doesn't feel like home or where I belong.
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7Trickster wrote: ↑ December 5th, 2024, 05:58
I'm from France (yet not a French thank God), so I'm breaking ToS I guess πŸ˜…

But truth is, in EU we don't have free speech. Controled speech is more accurate. You can have legal attacks for "hateful" comments. So while France pretends to be the land of free men, it is not true. Germany is worse since they are way more into the woke and sucking migrant dicks.
Yeah I'm german, bro. It's completely done here, you at least have the decency to burn down your country from time to time. Germany is in a full on stupor
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