Avowed, a TOW-like game from Obsidian

[Roguey]

Rotten Tomatoes doesn't have audience score, it hasn't for a while now. The "popcornmeter" is curated now.

They may filter out the people too dumb to hide their power level, but that doesn't stop the preferences from being revealed https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/true_detective/s04

[Nooneatall]

Rotten Tomatoes doesn't have audience score, it hasn't for a while now. The "popcornmeter" is curated now.

They may filter out the people too dumb to hide their power level, but that doesn't stop the preferences from being revealed https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/true_detective/s04

I found a very special picture for you.

[WaterMage]

This isn't taught at all in US schools AFAIK and it's very amusing that the dominant ideology of one of the world's superpowers is just ignored because uhm… reasons…

The same reason why Weimar republic is not studied in schools.

But back to Avowed, the game has only 3 out of 11 classes, missing the most cool ones like Cipher and many cool abilities for Fighters, Rangers and Druids aren't into the game. Probably there is more things removed from PoE 2 to Avoided than from Morrowind to Oblivion to Skyrim...

[Rand]

A lot of slop is flopping, but it's flopping on its own merits, not because the games are a little too liberal.

You're either taking too many drugs or not enough.
Either way, that **** ain't right.

[UltraFan123]

I would definitely argue that a piece of media being way too liberal is a merit of itself, albeit a negative one.

[Roguey]

You're either taking too many drugs or not enough.
Either way, that **** ain't right.

Baldur's Gate 3 is one of the queerest games of all time. I know Rusty's argument against this is that they kept the worst of it out of early access, doesn't matter. Even notable homosexual Tim Cain found it off-putting how many of his companions offered to suck his ****.

[Irenaeus]

I would definitely argue that a piece of media being way too liberal is a merit of itself, albeit a negative one.

Negative merit, minus 10 points for Slytherin (Roguey's house).

[wndrbr]

Roguey is right. The woke **** is not flopping because it's woke, but rather because it's **** (from technical standpoint). BG3 sold gangbusters, Deadname sold OK and would've even broke even and brought in some profit if it was made in three years instead of seven. Woke games sell well as long as they are somewhat competently made and have decent production values.

"Get woke go broke", "blackrock is closing DEI initiatives", "the pendulum swings back" - all of this is fake news. The zoophilia ****** gaysex is here to stay.

[1998]

Roguey is right. The woke **** is not flopping because it's woke, but rather because it's **** (from technical standpoint). BG3 sold gangbusters, Deadname sold OK and would've even broke even and brought in some profit if it was made in three years instead of seven. Woke games sell well as long as they are somewhat competently made and have decent production values.

"Get woke go broke", "blackrock is closing DEI initiatives", "the pendulum swings back" - all of this is fake news. The zoophilia ****** gaysex is here to stay.

Partly agree, Deadname did not sell OK. But yeah, BG3, Cyberpunk etc. clearly showed that a huge part of gamers are very tolerant towards woke nonsense in their games.

[rusty_shackleford]

BG3 is an exceptional case where an existing good game got pozzed after it was already 2/3rds done. Look up how the non binary genderblob rewrote the entire main story after it entered early access, etc.,


I, for one, blame Putin for invading Ukraine and triggering a domino effect whereby Larian ends up being forced to mass hire women and libtards because they lost their second oldest studio.

[wndrbr]

It doesn't matter what happened to BG3 mid development. What matters is that the release version of the game was extremely pozzed, and despite that it sold really well and had a very good word of mouth among gamers.

[rusty_shackleford]

It doesn't matter what happened to BG3 mid development. What matters is that the release version of the game was extremely pozzed, and despite that it sold really well and had a very good word of mouth among gamers.

80% of the pozz is in the part of the game 10% played.

[wndrbr]

The whole girlpower/muscular dommy mommy red tiefling woman/etc is all over the first half of the game. The gay bear was also went viral and became a massive marketing win.

[rusty_shackleford]

This is why it has taken so long to finish @orinEsque's mod btw. It started quick because there's just so much less pozz outside of act 3, afaik most of their time on the mod has been spent depozzong act 3 after the original passes of pre act 3 stuff.

[rusty_shackleford]

The whole girlpower/muscular dommy mommy red tiefling woman/etc is all over the first half of the game.

You're describing the lead character of half of all existing Japanese games.

[wndrbr]

The whole girlpower/muscular dommy mommy red tiefling woman/etc is all over the first half of the game.

You're describing the lead character of half of all existing Japanese games.

you're proving my point. Gamers don't care about such things and will gladly gobble it all up, but only as long as no one makes memes out of bad production values (like with ME andromeda).

[rusty_shackleford]

The whole girlpower/muscular dommy mommy red tiefling woman/etc is all over the first half of the game.

You're describing the lead character of half of all existing Japanese games.

you're proving my point. Gamers don't care about such things and will gladly gobble it all up, but only as long as no one makes memes out of bad production values (like with ME andromeda).

I will concede that far too many gamers are coomers.

You, however, are carrying water for Putin who is responsible for BG3 being pozzed.

[rusty_shackleford]

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[Tweed]

I don't give a dead moose's last **** about Crimea. Take a screenshot, frame it.

[rusty_shackleford]

I don't give a dead moose's last **** about Crimea. Take a screenshot, frame it.

Why do you support homosexual intercourse with bears in RPGs?

[Tweed]

I don't give a dead moose's last **** about Crimea. Take a screenshot, frame it.

Why do you support homosexual intercourse with bears in RPGs?

Yes, of course, that's your interpretation of this. Why wouldn't it be?

[rusty_shackleford]

I don't give a dead moose's last **** about Crimea. Take a screenshot, frame it.

Why do you support homosexual intercourse with bears in RPGs?

Yes, of course, that's your interpretation of this. Why wouldn't it be?

Did you view the image?

[The_Mask]

Gamers don't care about such things and will gladly gobble it all up, but only as long as no one makes memes out of bad production values

Gamers will praise quality of gameplay, if the game has any, and will *tolerate* woke **** of it's in there, or try to mod it out.

But the reality in terms of revenue is that woke **** doesn't have many returns. The share of the woke market is exclusionary to the majority of the market, actually.

And, on top of all of this, the gaming industry has to compete with its own past. Games made in the 80's, 90's and even in the ****** 00's are golden compared to post 2012 ****.

[UltraFan123]

Since this is a thread of an Obsidian game I want to make a comparison with Tyranny.

That game may not have been the giga success that it was expected, but I feel that the gameplay and story were still pretty good for a brand new IP, and yes that game was also super pozzed with ******* somehow popping out of nowhere and too many women in positions of authority in what was obviously a bronze age Greece analog, but I was still willing to tolerate it because the game aspect of the game itself was still pretty good.

In contrast, the recent flops have been flops because neither the gameplay nor the stories were good enough for the average player to overlook the hideous wokeness.

[wndrbr]

People were overlooking strong women and out-of-nowhere black people because it was already standard situation, not because Tyranny was a great game. Been standard for many years.

Black elves are becoming the new norm as we speak. People were laughing at them in the Netflix Witcher show, quietly scoffed at them during the marketing campaign of Rings of Power, said nothing when they showed up in the new Dragon Age. Only a bunch of fringe wignat freaks like us keep complaining about negro-elves, everybody else has moved on and accepted it.

[rusty_shackleford]

everybody else has moved on and accepted it.

you are fake news

[wndrbr]

I visit other gaming forums and discussion boards, no one complains about black elves anymore.

[UltraFan123]

I visit other gaming forums and discussion boards, no one complains about black elves anymore.

I feel that it's because the disdain has already been replaced by apathy.

Like the examples you mention; the Witcher used to be big but now it's declining specifically because they went woke, Rings of Power is a super flop, and Veilguard is a giga flop.

So I think "nobody complaining" at this point is synonym with "nobody supporting the trash".

[Faceless_Sentinel]

Face it, @rusty_shackleford, muricans happily consume gender bulshit, it norm to them. If anybody wants to spot wokeness in bg3, it is in character creation: nergoes heads for elves, tiflings, bodytypes, gender ********. Westoids ate this crap, this is norm to them.
Even more, they save tons of time and money using same body model with different skin texture for human, half elf, elf, drow, tifling and any criticism about this aspect was called racism, sexism, communism, nacism, all possible -isms and on larian forum you got permabanned for that type of criticism.
This is only in character creator and it is enough to understand that the game woke, but westoids paid anyway.

[Faceless_Sentinel]

I visit other gaming forums and discussion boards, no one complains about black elves anymore.

I feel that it's because the disdain has already been replaced by apathy.

Like the examples you mention; the Witcher used to be big but now it's declining specifically because they went woke, Rings of Power is a super flop, and Veilguard is a giga flop.
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So I think "nobody complaining" at this point is synonym with "nobody supporting the trash".

Because this type of criticism heavily censored by calling - isms all who voice it.