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There is also the brain eater at the start of the game, "We are Us". Wtf is that? Is it one or is it many? The English language is too confusing nowadays. Imagine your spouse going on a business trip alone, arriving in the hotel room and calling you:" We have arrived, dear". "We? Who else is with you?" "No, it's just us" "???"
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I think it was written by bri'ish people which is why it has different writing in some regards.
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Kain wrote: ↑ November 7th, 2024, 22:14
There is also the brain eater at the start of the game, "We are Us". Wtf is that? Is it one or is it many? The English language is too confusing nowadays. Imagine your spouse going on a business trip alone, arriving in the hotel room and calling you:" We have arrived, dear". "We? Who else is with you?" "No, it's just us" "???"
Also note: "We are us," is incorrect in all contexts, anyway. Technically, it should be, "We are we."
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WhiteShark wrote: ↑ November 7th, 2024, 22:25
Kain wrote: ↑ November 7th, 2024, 22:14
There is also the brain eater at the start of the game, "We are Us". Wtf is that? Is it one or is it many? The English language is too confusing nowadays. Imagine your spouse going on a business trip alone, arriving in the hotel room and calling you:" We have arrived, dear". "We? Who else is with you?" "No, it's just us" "???"
Also note: "We are us," is incorrect in all contexts, anyway. Technically, it should be, "We are we."
The character is purposely meant to be speaking cryptically.
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WhiteShark wrote: ↑ November 7th, 2024, 22:25
Kain wrote: ↑ November 7th, 2024, 22:14
There is also the brain eater at the start of the game, "We are Us". Wtf is that? Is it one or is it many? The English language is too confusing nowadays. Imagine your spouse going on a business trip alone, arriving in the hotel room and calling you:" We have arrived, dear". "We? Who else is with you?" "No, it's just us" "???"
Also note: "We are us," is incorrect in all contexts, anyway. Technically, it should be, "We are we."
Its name is Us.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ November 7th, 2024, 22:16
I think it was written by bri'ish people which is why it has different writing in some regards.
bri'ish people don't know how to english properly btw
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On another issue, game keep crashing after I free Nightsong from the prison (I killed Isobel when we first meet). Anybody have the same problem? If I just kill him there will be no cutscreen and it won't crash btw.
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Kain wrote: ↑ November 8th, 2024, 03:09
On another issue, game keep crashing after I free Nightsong from the prison (I killed Isobel when we first meet). Anybody have the same problem? If I just kill him there will be no cutscreen and it won't crash btw.
Make a thread in the support subforum with a list of mods you use to help troubleshooting it, one of the devs on this will be able to help
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Faceless_Sentinel wrote: ↑ November 7th, 2024, 10:13
As soon as you start a game you are not alone, your very first party member is Laezel, you meet her as soon as you exit room where you awake.
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Kain wrote: ↑ November 7th, 2024, 21:40
"I" has always been used, then suddenly it's "we" even when you are traveling alone. And people refer to you as "they/them" even if you are alone and stand naked. I don't want to talk about politics, I just want comprehensible grammar.
1. BG1 and BG2 are 2 completely different games from another (better) time by another company.
2. The Intellect Devourer you meet at the beginning of the game is as others have pointed out supposed to speak in that way. It refers to itself as many, because it is really controlled by something else that controls many creatures; it really does not understand the concept of "individual" (at least not until much later in the game, in a way). Heck, it is meant to be completely alien as well, and this is how they chose to implement it. IMO it is quite fitting for such a creature as far as I know D&D (mostly 2e and 3.5).
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Pixelargh wrote: ↑ October 31st, 2024, 22:18
I wonder if a mod like this one can be made for Veilguard, although you might end up cutting 50% of the game's content... which is probably for the best though...
You might want to pull a barve on this
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I've got an issue, the game crashes in the Shadowfell after letting Shadowheart decide Aylin's fate and the Aylin flight cutscene starts.
my load order is as follows
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Kain wrote: ↑ November 8th, 2024, 03:09
On another issue, game keep crashing after I free Nightsong from the prison (I killed Isobel when we first meet). Anybody have the same problem? If I just kill him there will be no cutscreen and it won't crash btw.
Kingrhem wrote: ↑ November 8th, 2024, 19:27
I've got an issue, the game crashes in the Shadowfell after letting Shadowheart decide Aylin's fate and the Aylin flight cutscene starts.
my load order is as follows
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This is the same issue, right? I'll see if I can get a hold of orin.
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Can you share your save file? @Kingrhem
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Rough estimate... How close to "completing" this project? Obviously there are always things here and there to do, but in terms of coverage, where would you say you are at in terms of an extremely clean playthrough percentage wise?
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Xenich wrote: ↑ November 8th, 2024, 19:32
Rough estimate... How close to "completing" this project? Obviously there are always things here and there to do, but in terms of coverage, where would you say you are at in terms of an extremely clean playthrough percentage wise?
unknown, orin still has to beat the game first
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ November 8th, 2024, 19:28
Kain wrote: ↑ November 8th, 2024, 03:09
On another issue, game keep crashing after I free Nightsong from the prison (I killed Isobel when we first meet). Anybody have the same problem? If I just kill him there will be no cutscreen and it won't crash btw.
Kingrhem wrote: ↑ November 8th, 2024, 19:27
I've got an issue, the game crashes in the Shadowfell after letting Shadowheart decide Aylin's fate and the Aylin flight cutscene starts.
my load order is as follows
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This is the same issue, right? I'll see if I can get a hold of orin.
Seem to be, I'm using custome race so I can't deactive other mods. The only way out is to use the spear.
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Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ November 8th, 2024, 19:44
Xenich wrote: ↑ November 8th, 2024, 19:32
Rough estimate... How close to "completing" this project? Obviously there are always things here and there to do, but in terms of coverage, where would you say you are at in terms of an extremely clean playthrough percentage wise?
unknown, orin still has to beat the game first
I'll finish the game after I clean all the ******* and ********.
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loregamer wrote: ↑ November 8th, 2024, 19:30
Can you share your save file? @Kingrhem
I got past it by disabling the mods proceeding with the cutscene then reenabled them after, it's an issue with something related to that cutscene
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SniperChris wrote: ↑ November 4th, 2024, 16:40
Pixelargh wrote: ↑ October 31st, 2024, 22:18
I wonder if a mod like this one can be made for Veilguard, although you might end up cutting 50% of the game's content... which is probably for the best though...
Veilguard is a terrible game. It’s not just the writing that is bad. Everything is mediocre. Why would you even want to?
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Hey, i have a noob question. Since this is the only mod il be using, can i install this mod without a mod manager? Could someone give me a step by step where to drop the files n stuff? Im quite unfamiliar with modding. And also, will the game break after each hotfix? And i heard about the devs checking on if i use "offensive" mods, which is beyond ridiculous. Do they have the ability to just mess with my game somehow if i use mods they dont agree with? Thanks so much for any help!
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RedHaze1911 wrote: ↑ November 9th, 2024, 20:25
Hey, i have a noob question. Since this is the only mod il be using, can i install this mod without a mod manager? Could someone give me a step by step where to drop the files n stuff? Im quite unfamiliar with modding. And also, will the game break after each hotfix? And i heard about the devs checking on if i use "offensive" mods, which is beyond ridiculous. Do they have the ability to just mess with my game somehow if i use mods they dont agree with? Thanks so much for any help!
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I've been told by the bg3 modders that installing mods without a mod manager causes a lot of issues now
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Duke Ravengard look like this after I burst him out off Ironthorn. Is it intended?
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Kain wrote: ↑ November 9th, 2024, 23:15
Duke Ravengard look like this after I burst him out off Ironthorn. Is it intended?
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Er he's not part of No Alphabets :scratch:, I don't recall @SniperChris changing him in Better Baldur's Aesthetics.

You have Wyll's of Toril installed ? or some other Wyll mod?
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orinEsque wrote: ↑ November 10th, 2024, 02:51
Kain wrote: ↑ November 9th, 2024, 23:15
Duke Ravengard look like this after I burst him out off Ironthorn. Is it intended?
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Er he's not part of No Alphabets :scratch:, I don't recall @SniperChris changing him in Better Baldur's Aesthetics.

You have Wyll's of Toril installed ? or some other Wyll mod?
Yea, I'm using Wyll of Neverwinter.
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Kain wrote: ↑ November 10th, 2024, 04:27
orinEsque wrote: ↑ November 10th, 2024, 02:51
Kain wrote: ↑ November 9th, 2024, 23:15
Duke Ravengard look like this after I burst him out off Ironthorn. Is it intended?
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https://ibb.co/BP85mYt
Er he's not part of No Alphabets :scratch:, I don't recall @SniperChris changing him in Better Baldur's Aesthetics.

You have Wyll's of Toril installed ? or some other Wyll mod?
Yea, I'm using Wyll of Neverwinter.
He's not supposed to have this face. I haven't updated wyll of Neverwinter. Maybe it's that :scratch:

I'll get to it. I'm bored of the game i was playing recently. It's modding time~
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orinEsque wrote: ↑ November 7th, 2024, 17:49
... just because its different from BG1 and 2 doesn't mean its wrong :scratch:
I disagree strongly with this on principle.

But that doesn't mean that it has anything whatsoever to do with this mod, and I think it would be deranged for this mod to change something like that.
Kain wrote: ↑ November 7th, 2024, 22:14
There is also the brain eater at the start of the game, "We are Us". Wtf is that? Is it one or is it many? The English language is too confusing nowadays. Imagine your spouse going on a business trip alone, arriving in the hotel room and calling you:" We have arrived, dear". "We? Who else is with you?" "No, it's just us" "???"
How the **** is this confusion to you? I genuinely don't understand. It's intentionally cryptic and hive-mind-y, because it's supposed to be representative of an alien intelligence for which individuality does not exist. There's nothing confusing whatsoever about this, and the fact that this is one of the few times in the game where this is actually done even remotely resembling well (I have bitched about this at length before) is a black mark on the game, not "confusing". What the **** is this autism. :notsureif:
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Luckmann wrote: ↑ November 11th, 2024, 20:15
orinEsque wrote: ↑ November 7th, 2024, 17:49
... just because its different from BG1 and 2 doesn't mean its wrong :scratch:
I disagree strongly with this on principle.

But that doesn't mean that it has anything whatsoever to do with this mod, and I think it would be deranged for this mod to change something like that.
Kain wrote: ↑ November 7th, 2024, 22:14
There is also the brain eater at the start of the game, "We are Us". Wtf is that? Is it one or is it many? The English language is too confusing nowadays. Imagine your spouse going on a business trip alone, arriving in the hotel room and calling you:" We have arrived, dear". "We? Who else is with you?" "No, it's just us" "???"
How the **** is this confusion to you? I genuinely don't understand. It's intentionally cryptic and hive-mind-y, because it's supposed to be representative of an alien intelligence for which individuality does not exist. There's nothing confusing whatsoever about this, and the fact that this is one of the few times in the game where this is actually done even remotely resembling well (I have bitched about this at length before) is a black mark on the game, not "confusing". What the **** is this autism. :notsureif:
Yet that thing is NOT connected to ANY other of it kind. You are just as confuse as the MC when he/she/it asked "where are we" after getting out of the mind flayer pod, alone.
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Kain wrote: ↑ November 12th, 2024, 03:09
Luckmann wrote: ↑ November 11th, 2024, 20:15
orinEsque wrote: ↑ November 7th, 2024, 17:49
... just because its different from BG1 and 2 doesn't mean its wrong :scratch:
I disagree strongly with this on principle.

But that doesn't mean that it has anything whatsoever to do with this mod, and I think it would be deranged for this mod to change something like that.
Kain wrote: ↑ November 7th, 2024, 22:14
There is also the brain eater at the start of the game, "We are Us". Wtf is that? Is it one or is it many? The English language is too confusing nowadays. Imagine your spouse going on a business trip alone, arriving in the hotel room and calling you:" We have arrived, dear". "We? Who else is with you?" "No, it's just us" "???"
How the **** is this confusion to you? I genuinely don't understand. It's intentionally cryptic and hive-mind-y, because it's supposed to be representative of an alien intelligence for which individuality does not exist. There's nothing confusing whatsoever about this, and the fact that this is one of the few times in the game where this is actually done even remotely resembling well (I have bitched about this at length before) is a black mark on the game, not "confusing". What the **** is this autism. :notsureif:
Yet that thing is NOT connected to ANY other of it kind. You are just as confuse as the MC when he/she/it asked "where are we" after getting out of the mind flayer pod, alone.
Whatever, embrace your language and culture corruption. You deserve it.
If you think about it, MC is no longer a single entity. MC has a tadpole in his head :scratch:
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orinEsque wrote: ↑ November 12th, 2024, 03:22
If you think about it, MC is no longer a single entity. MC has a tadpole in his head :scratch:
So that parasite is counted as...another you? Would you address yourself as "we" because you have parasites living in your head or any other parts of your body? Would it do the thinking for you or with you? When you speak, is that your parasite speaking or you both speaking? Your line of thinking is just too alien and abnormal to me bth.