Dragon Age™: The Veilguard is a Return To Form

[Roguey]

That's the second game.

In the first game it's outright spelled that the Firelies have no clue what they're doing, and the procedure will kill Ellie for nothing. In the end she sees through Joel's lie, but still decides to stay with him because she trusts him. The Firelies are the villains of the last arc, no better than the military or the various gangs that roam the wasteland.

The Firefly woman Joel kills says "You know she would choose this" (even though they weren't giving her a choice) and Joel also believes this which is why he lies to her instead of outright explaining that these people were crooked and clueless. And in the sequel, she's mad that she didn't get to die.

You think they'd kill her for nothing based on what you're seeing, but this game was written by a guy who didn't know that there aren't any vaccines for fungal infections. He sure as hell wasn't thinking about the logistics of distribution. He writes for feelings.

[rusty_shackleford]

You know she would choose this

She's a child.

This is libtard gobbledygook where they think children are adults and capable of making such decisions. Joel was her de facto guardian, it was his decision to make.
The fact that they never informed Joel at all prior meant they deserved what they got.

[Cipher]

Make note, I am not arguing they are masterpieces, just that they are polished and competently made products designed to please normiecattle.

I agree with this, yes.

[Cipher]

and somehow, because the game tugs at the Player's heartstrings by making you bond with a surrogate daughter, people cried for her plight and wanted to save her and lie to her in the end.

almost as autistic as the time aweigh complained about "emotionally manipulative music"

I am sorry you cried for your surrogate daughter. Story is still garbage, though.

[gerey]

You know she would choose this

lmao

The Firelies LIED to her - they never told her the procedure was fatal, nor that she wasn't the first immune human they operated on, nor that they had no idea what they were doing.

Of course she agreed to undergo the operation in the belief she was going to be the one to save humanity.

Joel also believes this which is why he lies to her instead of outright explaining that these people were crooked and clueless

No, he doesn't. He lies because he doesn't want to tell her he killed people she believed were her friends. I'm not sure what game you played, but TLOU1 makes it very obvious that cracking Ellie's skull open is not likely to lead to a cure.

In fact, what the Fireflies are doing is detrimental to the overall effort of developing a cure. They'd have more success if, instead of killing immune people through ******** surgical procedures, they let them breed more immune people.

[Xenich]

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[Roguey]

No, he doesn't. He lies because he doesn't want to tell her he killed people she believed were her friends. I'm not sure what game you played, but TLOU1 makes it very obvious that cracking Ellie's skull open is not likely to lead to a cure.

He is not trying to protect the honor of the Fireflies or shelter Ellie who's already been through a lot.

This interpretation is the correct one because it's what the sequel goes with and both were written by the same guy.

[gerey]

This interpretation is the correct one because it's what the sequel goes with and both were written by the same guy.

Cuckmann did not write TLOU1.

Also, if your argument is "the correct interpretation is what a butthurt **** is saying" then you have already lost the argument. Cuckmann retconned TLOU1 to shove in his ******** take on events.

[Roguey]

Cuckmann did not write TLOU1.

bruh https://www.mobygames.com/game/60922/th ... tform=true
Creative Director Neil Druckmann
Written by Neil Druckmann

The difference between the two is that he wasn't the director of the first game like he was with the second. But this was his intent and I've seen no indication that Straley disagrees with him.

[gerey]

bruh https://www.mobygames.com/game/60922/th ... tform=true

Yeah, feminist Jew that chased Amy Henning out of the company would totally not hog all credit.

Funny how NG writing really went to **** when Cuckmann managed to chase away all other senior writers, leaving him as the only one in charge.

[Acrux]

Estimated number of returns

[rusty_shackleford]

Estimated number of returns

That's steam's total returns

[Roguey]

Yeah, feminist Jew that chased Amy Henning out of the company would totally not hog all credit.

Funny how NG writing really went to **** when Cuckmann managed to chase away all other senior writers, leaving him as the only one in charge.

People and their assumptions.

[gerey]

People and their assumptions.

What do you expect her to say? Agree with an antisemitic statement in the free and fair West?

And yes, Cuckmann poured his heart into U4, masturbating himself raw at the sight of his muscle mommy ****** waifu.

[rusty_shackleford]

based druckmann didn't let a washed up libtard hag write for his game

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

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[Ty6]

Narrative shift? https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/d ... fect-depth

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/dragon-ag ... e-go-away/

[rusty_shackleford]

that's a man's chest lmao

[Ty6]

Is the access media spooked https://aftermath.site/aftermath-hours- ... ontroversy

[Nooneatall]

that's a man's chest lmao

Just ask the expert on men and boys chests, @Vergil

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

that's a man's chest lmao

I just noticed your right. The fact that anyone can say there attractive is crazy.

[rusty_shackleford]

Is the access media spooked https://aftermath.site/aftermath-hours- ... ontroversy

By Nathan Grayson

[rusty_shackleford]

Just ask the expert on men and boys chests, @Vergil

I just noticed your right. The fact that anyone can say there attractive is crazy.

I think they used the same base mesh with minor adjustments for both men and women because biology is nazi or something.

The breasts are all wrong. The chest is all wrong. Women have a far less pronounced clavicle and sternum, the collarbone specifically having the angles of a male collarbone. The pectorals have the shape of a male.


I do digital sculpting. I'm not great at it, but I can see blatant anatomy issues.

[edit]
The same issue is present in the original ArchCast image btw:


What is going on with that collarbone? Or is that a flesh colored shirt? I can't tell

[1998]

biosissies how we doin? crushin the chuds?

bioware just announced there will be no dlc btw
https://gamerant.com/dragon-age-veilguard-no-dlc/

Despite Dragon Age: The Veilguard’s success

lmao the lying

It's surprisingly refreshing how brutally honest EA/Bioware is about this being a mega flop. There was no need to announce that now.

[Shillitron]

Baldo Math

[rusty_shackleford]

I think they used the same base mesh with minor adjustments for both men and women because biology is nazi or something.

Ironically, women are getting treated worse now by wokies than when men were creating "hypersexualized" versions of females. Now they just get secondhand male art.

[rusty_shackleford]

Baldo Math

Doesn't matter how you calculate it, they're nowhere near recouping dev costs.

[wndrbr]

Cuckmann did not write TLOU1.

bruh https://www.mobygames.com/game/60922/th ... tform=true
Creative Director Neil Druckmann
Written by Neil Druckmann

The difference between the two is that he wasn't the director of the first game like he was with the second. But this was his intent and I've seen no indication that Straley disagrees with him.

you can see a clear differences between the first and the second game in how they treat the infection and the immunity. No one gives a **** about Ellie's immunity in the second game, it's a non-factor in the story. Even zombies became an afterthought, just one more hazard to avoid while exploring the world. You could've cut the whole 'Ellie is immune' thing from the game, and the plot wouldn't have changed.

Iirc there was an interview with Druckman (or maybe Straley? idk) where it was said that during the development of the first game Druckman wanted the revenge plot from the get go, but Straley opposed him, because he thought that making the protagonist chase some bad guy would make the world feel less dangerous.

There's also the question of TLOU1's ending. I don't agree with gerey that Ellie saw through Joel's lies but chose to act oblivious, but that's just his interpretation. IMO the idea was to leave this ambigious so the fans would be arguing about it. 'Did she saw through Joel's lies?' 'Did Fireflies even have the chance of developing the vaccine?' Who knows, there was no clear answer. And if Straley remained the creative director, TLOU2 would've probably went into a different direction with the new set of protagonists.

[Vergil]

that's a man's chest lmao

Just ask the expert on men and boys chests, @Vergil

Pretty funny how predictable and NPC this guy is. One other guy makes a joke and he'll be repeating it for a month. Do I fit in yet guys? Am I cool yet? Have I given Rusty enough money to make me a real member!?!

I guess it's a little more variety than the same "whoa guys I'm saying I'm fat and disgusting how wacky and uncharacteristic! Please laugh!"
They could replace you with a chat bot and the post quality would improve and get more novel. ******.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

Just ask the expert on men and boys chests, @Vergil

I just noticed your right. The fact that anyone can say there attractive is crazy.

I think they used the same base mesh with minor adjustments for both men and women because biology is nazi or something.

The breasts are all wrong. The chest is all wrong. Women have a far less pronounced clavicle and sternum, the collarbone specifically having the angles of a male collarbone. The pectorals have the shape of a male.


I do digital sculpting. I'm not great at it, but I can see blatant anatomy issues.

[edit]
The same issue is present in the original ArchCast image btw:


What is going on with that collarbone? Or is that a flesh colored shirt? I can't tell

It’s becoming strange how people gaslight themselves thinking making androgynous female characters is somehow appealing to the masses.

Maybe it’s just one big psyop.