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Red7 wrote: November 1st, 2024, 20:45
rusty_shackleford wrote: November 1st, 2024, 20:42
Red7 wrote: November 1st, 2024, 20:40
is there mod to alter look of vehicle so it dosnt look like it was designed by ******** vagina who seen couple cold war era russian atvs photos?

this is really bad
You get a lot of customizations for it
hope its look customization too
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Do you ever notice how when devs want to pretend they aren’t woke, they add in girlbosses and lesbians, but then they over-do it in an attempt to cover up the missing **** and ******? You could tell what this game was going to be like from the tutorial mission where the tough as nails colonel or whatever who is bleeding out is inexplicably a woman.
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Gunnar wrote: November 1st, 2024, 20:57
Do you ever notice how when devs want to pretend they aren’t woke, they add in girlbosses and lesbians, but then they over-do it in an attempt to cover up the missing **** and ******? You could tell what this game was going to be like from the tutorial mission where the tough as nails colonel or whatever who is bleeding out is inexplicably a woman.
******* in power has been the trend for several years.
This is what I found in one of the dedicated threads on WH40K Darktide forums:
It's pretty funny. They think they are engaging in 'deep conditioning', trying to normalize acceptance inside our heads of their vision of the real world future through repetition, but instead the characters they create just look ridiculous, like they do in real life.
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Yankee Zulu wrote: November 1st, 2024, 21:04
******* in power has been the trend for several years.
The longer I've been exposed to it, the more I hate it. All this propaganda has had the opposite of its intended effect on me.
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My tolerance is the lowest it has ever been. It is even annoying me now when I go back and play old games or watch older movies, where it didn’t before.
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When you first meet The Patriarch Buchanan, you have to go and turn off alarms.
Afterwards when he comes in to talk to you, he has two bodyguards in power armor.
Take a look:

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Dangerhair women. in power ranger colored power armor. Riiiiigggghhht.
Faggotry everywhere.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: November 1st, 2024, 21:07
Yankee Zulu wrote: November 1st, 2024, 21:04
******* in power has been the trend for several years.
The longer I've been exposed to it, the more I hate it. All this propaganda has had the opposite of its intended effect on me.
It was propaganda in the late 2000's and early 10's, when they saw it wasn't effective they switched to shoving it on our faces saying: "what are you going to do about it?". Now they cry about the "far-right" rising.
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Skyrim was released almost 15 years ago. I remember discussing how every bandit pack in the game had one or more females in it. Have you every seen a female bandit in real life? A female pick pocket? A female rapist? Have you ever been robbed by a female? A female serial killer maybe? Its almost like they want females to start commiting more crimes in real life to be on par with males.
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Yankee Zulu wrote: November 2nd, 2024, 04:11
Skyrim was released almost 15 years ago. I remember discussing how every bandit pack in the game had one or more females in it. Have you every seen a female bandit in real life? A female pick pocket? A female rapist? Have you ever been robbed by a female? A female serial killer maybe? Its almost like they want females to start commiting more crimes in real life to be on par with males.
Fortunately, that's very easily fixed with a single small mod.
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the game is hilariously ******** but in way that is not detrimental for enjoymen for now.

imagine in depopulated wasteland using vaginas as cannon fodder, like its peak overpopulation/debt bubble, instead being chained and raped to breed more soldiers
but at least i get to blow and slaughter vaginas. the cutted open vagina "major" that i picked up and her bowels fell out of her was hilarious.

what is missing is like more based responses/interactions. like when u meet ****** wearing bowerls as necklace i should be able to say "check ot my dried ovaries necklace, i use it to make tea as well"

also some of "better guns" look like trash so i cant use them. like u get fn fal and then they give something that looks like its m14 that about to fall apart and stats say it better, **** off.

there better be ******* mp5 in there cause im not gonna use ******* jewish uzi trash


alo why the **** there are no fire modes. i have to fire full auto like ******** ******
also no jam/weapon degradation mechanics.
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Yankee Zulu wrote: November 2nd, 2024, 04:11
Skyrim was released almost 15 years ago. I remember discussing how every bandit pack in the game had one or more females in it. Have you every seen a female bandit in real life? A female pick pocket? A female rapist? Have you ever been robbed by a female? A female serial killer maybe? Its almost like they want females to start commiting more crimes in real life to be on par with males.
i think i would not play skyrim or f4 if not vagina bandits. tits harvesting is game loop for me
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Yankee Zulu wrote: November 2nd, 2024, 04:11
Skyrim was released almost 15 years ago. I remember discussing how every bandit pack in the game had one or more females in it. Have you every seen a female bandit in real life?
yes in latam
Yankee Zulu wrote: November 2nd, 2024, 04:11
A female pick pocket?
most gypsy ones are
yup
Yankee Zulu wrote: November 2nd, 2024, 04:11
Have you ever been robbed by a female?
not personally but happens to dudes all the time in SEA and latam
Yankee Zulu wrote: November 2nd, 2024, 04:11
A female serial killer maybe?
no but sounds hot
Yankee Zulu wrote: November 2nd, 2024, 04:11
Its almost like they want females to start commiting more crimes in real life to be on par with males.
I don't think its that deep
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I wouldn’t have a problem if the women were portrayed as part of a gypsy family or ******** gang members because that would be remotely believable but that is never the case. The women are always the leaders of their organizations too for an added layer of absurdity.
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the "patriarch" is hilarious

"i have 2 sons, ******** as ****, that betryaed me, i want them to bring them alive even tho they trying to kill me
i also got smart vagina {lel} daughter conspiring against me, bring her alive too"

what weak ******** ******, if my son was dumb or/and gay/weak i would mincraft him jewself.
what tragedy, i guess i will have to mincraft everyone.
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Serjo wrote: November 2nd, 2024, 10:50
Yankee Zulu wrote: November 2nd, 2024, 04:11
Skyrim was released almost 15 years ago. I remember discussing how every bandit pack in the game had one or more females in it. Have you every seen a female bandit in real life?
yes in latam
Yankee Zulu wrote: November 2nd, 2024, 04:11
A female pick pocket?
most gypsy ones are
yup
Yankee Zulu wrote: November 2nd, 2024, 04:11
Have you ever been robbed by a female?
not personally but happens to dudes all the time in SEA and latam
Yankee Zulu wrote: November 2nd, 2024, 04:11
A female serial killer maybe?
no but sounds hot
Yankee Zulu wrote: November 2nd, 2024, 04:11
Its almost like they want females to start commiting more crimes in real life to be on par with males.
I don't think its that deep
You sound like those ******** ***** 'B-B-but vikings had shieldmaidens!' No wonder you are a pedo.
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Red7 wrote: November 2nd, 2024, 11:14
the "patriarch" is hilarious

"i have 2 sons, ******** as ****, that betryaed me, i want them to bring them alive even tho they trying to kill me
i also got smart vagina {lel} daughter conspiring against me, bring her alive too"

what weak ******** ******, if my son was dumb or/and gay/weak i would mincraft him jewself.
what tragedy, i guess i will have to mincraft everyone.
Most people aren't going to be too thrilled to kill their own children unless they're total psychopaths (which the Patriarch is not). A flawed man, but he loves his prodigal kids.
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Yankee Zulu wrote: November 2nd, 2024, 11:27
Serjo wrote: November 2nd, 2024, 10:50
Yankee Zulu wrote: November 2nd, 2024, 04:11
Skyrim was released almost 15 years ago. I remember discussing how every bandit pack in the game had one or more females in it. Have you every seen a female bandit in real life?
yes in latam
Yankee Zulu wrote: November 2nd, 2024, 04:11
A female pick pocket?
most gypsy ones are
yup
Yankee Zulu wrote: November 2nd, 2024, 04:11
Have you ever been robbed by a female?
not personally but happens to dudes all the time in SEA and latam
Yankee Zulu wrote: November 2nd, 2024, 04:11
A female serial killer maybe?
no but sounds hot
Yankee Zulu wrote: November 2nd, 2024, 04:11
Its almost like they want females to start commiting more crimes in real life to be on par with males.
I don't think its that deep
You sound like those ******** ***** 'B-B-but vikings had shieldmaidens!' No wonder you are a pedo.
so you were wrong and instead of admitting it and progressing the convo you just default to slandering me. The gacha chinx calling me a pedo is gold
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Serjo wrote: November 2nd, 2024, 23:50
Yankee Zulu wrote: November 2nd, 2024, 11:27
Serjo wrote: November 2nd, 2024, 10:50

yes in latam

most gypsy ones are

yup

not personally but happens to dudes all the time in SEA and latam

no but sounds hot

I don't think its that deep
You sound like those ******** ***** 'B-B-but vikings had shieldmaidens!' No wonder you are a pedo.
so you were wrong and instead of admitting it and progressing the convo you just default to slandering me. The gacha chinx calling me a pedo is gold
No Im not wrong its just you are a dumbfck and dont get the point. And you are a pedo gachas have nothing to do with this fact.
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@rusty_shackleford i need yer halp

im running back and forward in this ****** game like vagina on period to get ******* mechanic to this piece of junk and ive already killed like 500 clowns but apparently its not enough to get one waggie ****.

those welfare leeches in refugge camp, they seem like som ******* polish poorfag parasite family, they wanted 300 kikebucks to help em. **** that, thats my mac 11 monnies.
mother cotter didnt want to talk to me about her disgusting refugee extravagnaza so i decided to help city out and flamethrower her enite family. also there was like static radio signal near her brats so i assumed they might be all synths anyway.

now ******* game is bugged and cant finish this ******** quest. cant i like console commnad glitch out at least like in jewthesda game?
im not paying 300.
btw even if payed them now, that ***** is roasted, it till would be bugged right?
i should kill that ****** in church for not keep his word anyway for not delivering reward.
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Red7 wrote: November 4th, 2024, 08:46
@rusty_shackleford i need yer halp

im running back and forward in this ****** game like vagina on period to get ******* mechanic to this piece of junk and ive already killed like 500 clowns but apparently its not enough to get one waggie ****.

those welfare leeches in refugge camp, they seem like som ******* polish poorfag parasite family, they wanted 300 kikebucks to help em. **** that, thats my mac 11 monnies.
mother cotter didnt want to talk to me about her disgusting refugee extravagnaza so i decided to help city out and flamethrower her enite family. also there was like static radio signal near her brats so i assumed they might be all synths anyway.

now ******* game is bugged and cant finish this ******** quest. cant i like console commnad glitch out at least like in jewthesda game?
im not paying 300.
btw even if payed them now, that ***** is roasted, it till would be bugged right?
i should kill that ****** in church for not keep his word anyway for not delivering reward.
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also that ****** kwon betrayed me cause i had to rpg a dog up.

i even bought hooker for this *** and he babbling some ******** sht about not killing dogs and "not taking jew commands anymore". couldnt even take my 400 usd rpg of his ****** corpse after i excetued him reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
almost got me killed before too when he provoked some looters after they done looting and be like "we no longer yer ******* we armed now".


"patriarch" is a ******** ******. "i want my little vagina daughter to be my successor. she so smart, i bought her pony to **** with, like she asked, but pony wasnt big enough so she got mad". patriarch my ***
only based guy is the big guy running brothel bu even he has some ******* dancing near him.

the factory rebellion writing is so ******** its no longer even absurd. it had to be vag writing, even ****** wouldnt come with something as ********
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rusty_shackleford wrote: November 4th, 2024, 08:49
Red7 wrote: November 4th, 2024, 08:46
@rusty_shackleford i need yer halp

im running back and forward in this ****** game like vagina on period to get ******* mechanic to this piece of junk and ive already killed like 500 clowns but apparently its not enough to get one waggie ****.

those welfare leeches in refugge camp, they seem like som ******* polish poorfag parasite family, they wanted 300 kikebucks to help em. **** that, thats my mac 11 monnies.
mother cotter didnt want to talk to me about her disgusting refugee extravagnaza so i decided to help city out and flamethrower her enite family. also there was like static radio signal near her brats so i assumed they might be all synths anyway.

now ******* game is bugged and cant finish this ******** quest. cant i like console commnad glitch out at least like in jewthesda game?
im not paying 300.
btw even if payed them now, that ***** is roasted, it till would be bugged right?
i should kill that ****** in church for not keep his word anyway for not delivering reward.
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i guess i will have to pay up, then cook momma with flamethrower after quest done, if she still around. nobody seemd to be bothered after cooking her entire family btw
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if i recruit cyber ****** will i have to put him down when its time to dismbemeber ******** vagina with robot army?
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the bit when u meet local based cowboys and they welcome with some spitroasted vagina meat really rubbed jew right i gotta say
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If it's not the Germans with their "no blood" fixation, it's the Aussies with their "don't depict drugs" fixation.

Killing people and promoting ******** is fine though
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rusty_shackleford wrote: October 30th, 2024, 01:08
I think I might just be over these kind of RPGs. Wasteland was very ambitious for its time, but games based on it(I'm not just referring to WL2/3 here FYI) just keep cutting things away to make it safer and easier to produce instead of iterating upon it and improving it. Being able to drag objects in the environment should be a standard feature in RPGs by now, not something groundbreaking you see in a couple games.

These games have largely been reduced to being combat simulators, very little differing them from nu-XCOM at this point. Unless they decide to go the route of dialoguedialoguedialogue(because they can't do anything else), then they just become visual novels with bad combat.
Warren Spector wrote about this in 1999.
https://www.gamedeveloper.com/design/re ... millennium

The article itself is too long and contains too many choice parts to narrow it down to just a few quotes. I implore anyone who cares about this topic to read the article.
As I stated in my recent Soapbox column ("It's ROLE-playing, Stupid!", Game Developer magazine, September 1998), we RPG designers are setting our sights too low. Look at the best RPGs of the last several years. As great as Diablo, Fallout, Daggerfall, and Might & Magic VI are, they really aren't anything that we couldn't have designed ten years ago. Do they represent significant advances over Wasteland or Ultima IV or the Underworld games? And were these older games striving for much more than a recreation of the tabletop role-playing experiences of their creators? It's as if we can't see beyond our early Dungeons & Dragons game experiences. It's time to move beyond simply borrowing game concepts and establish computer RPGs as an independent medium.
But are all of these statistics really necessary? Of course not. There's another way. In recent years, a small, very vocal and extremely persuasive minority of the design community has begun to argue in favor of statistics-free RPGs or, as some call it, the immersive experience. They feel that hidden die rolls and finely tracked statistics are unnecessary hold-overs from paper gaming. These designers pose a number of interesting questions. Why use a crutch from another medium, one with limited simulation capabilities, in computer gaming, which has far more powerful simulation tools available? Why not let player choices determine character differences? Does anyone think the difference between a 17 and an 18 in strength or between an 89 and a 90 in lock picking should have an impact on game play?

So what do these statistics-foes offer as an alternative in terms of character differentiation and the player's ability to impact a story? The two most important alternative tools available are Inventory and Skills/Special Abilities.
In the end, problem resolution is what RPGs are all about. The more tools you give the player (useless items notwithstanding), the more solutions are likely to suggest themselves, as long as your simulation is robust enough - or your designers clever enough - to support them.
I don't agree with the statistic-less approach, but it seems like an exercise in minimalism: what can be taken away to the point where you can make a game that is still an RPG?
And RPGs are fundamentally problem solving games. Not to be confused with puzzle solving.
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vic follower seems like a ***** and got lots to learn when comes to fucknugget processing. bad parenting result.
also i gave him ranger star, wouldnt pass skill check otherwise, and he was still bitching he doesnt have it.

constant spell checks in this game are onboxious, it all comes down to me leaving at least 10 skill points non used and reloading after finding what skill pass i need to beat. same as rare items possibly not spawning at all, until u reload game like 20 times, this game just thrives on savescumming to work even. also it had couple times same bug that utterly broke quest log, if i dint kept control saves every 10 minutes i would lose all progress.

gaYme really tries to make love commies and its hilarious how i agree with stomping it.


based, **** em welfare stealing commie leeches
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reagan seems like cool guy but jew needs rail gun

another thing, this **** is impossible to predict wtf u gonna get /**** u want or utter trash/ without wiki on hand.
its so incoherent and glued together i cant believe there was even penis supervision there.
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scorpion encounter in ruins setttings was easiest the coolest encounter and if i read correctly those do not repeat?


wtf they were thinking. im not playing for ******** plot, im jew farming monnies and guns ffs.
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Red7 wrote: November 10th, 2024, 16:30
Constant skill checks in this game are onboxious, it all comes down to me leaving at least 10 skill points non used and reloading after finding what skill pass i need to beat.
Same as rare items possibly not spawning at all, until you reload the game like 20 times. This game just thrives on savescumming to work even well.
I agree. The RNG loot is cancer, even with the luck bonus (which seems to process at less than the expected rate as per tooltips).
There are a few places with fixed loot, but to even get something reliably decent from a crate, I save first and reload until I get something useful or valuable, as I don't need 5+ ice axe weapons that I don't spec into, and that sell for pocket change and break down into 1/20th of a useful amount of spare parts (at least without the +30 level 7 out of 10 skill required perk).

What's really annoying me though is the gating of the last other original Desert Ranger, Private Jodie Bell, behind a series of local quests that have LITERALLY nothing to do with her.
She's a good mechanic, which would save me the trouble of wasting either XP or skill points on another character filling in the gap until the game decides she's done sitting against a wall in base (she claims she's healing, but is not in medical, ever.)
It's Veilguard levels of bad. I literally can't, as the commander, walk up and order her to stop malingering and get to work because Arizona is depending on her.
And if you were to skip doing the two quests until there was no other way to progress, the game would have her sit there doing nothing, despite it being framed as her needing "time to heal".

As for the comment re: wasting XP or skill points, my choice until the game releases her is to spend skill points on her MUCH NEEDED skills on another character, where they would end up either being wasted on her or the replacement once she shows up unless I pay (a huge amount of initially scarce money) for a gamey, ridiculous respec (which is tied 1:1 with recruitment costs as some sort of metagame balancing ********), or to make a recruit that fills her role until she is available, who would be getting the XP for her skills and probably being BETTER than her by the time she's available. I would prefer she is in the party and gaining the XP herself.
Why don't I go this NPC understudy route? Because companions have interesting (theoretically, anyway) voice lines and party interactions and I would like to see hers.


What are the quests gating her?
1: explore and clean up the base (that ESPECIALLY has skill checks in Jodie's skills...)
2: go clear out raiders that have townspeople hostage
3: do a long ******** investigation into the local criminal underworld

All of which have skill checks in Jodie's skills.

Done all that? Jodie's feeling better now.
Skip the last bit of the last quest and go do overworld stuff? Jodie sits on the floor against the wall in the lobby of your HQ feeling mopey until you do it.

******* hell. Why are devs so ********?

Oh, and I forgot to mention the door that is coded to have the nearby guards protect from you opening it via lockpicking it using an unskippable dialogue interruption because "it's a sensitive area" every time you go to interact with it, but they completely ignore you blowing it open with a rocket launcher 15 feet away from them...
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