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What game should we play in October?

Poll ended at September 30th, 2024, 22:47

Baldur's Gate
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Deus Ex
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Icewind Dale 2
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Knights of the Chalice
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Vampire: The Masquerade - Redemption
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Total votes: 46

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Zothique wrote: October 3rd, 2024, 11:25
This game is so ******* ****. I can't believe people got paid actual money to make this.

Here's how it goes.

1. Gay dialogue scene "oh Anezka we can't **** b/c of God, **** is horrible"
2. Go massacre hordes of monsters, most of your hits not landing, for 30 minutes plus.
3. Another gay dialogue scene.
4. Rinse. Repeat.

This isn't a VtM/White Wolf game, it's a "we've got to compete with Diablo" asslick cashgrab for its time with the Vampire IP. Bloodlines, even as jank-****** as it is, is a better "game" than this pile of animal feces.

We deserve to have a ******* comet his this garbage dump of a planet at this point. Because we really haven't gotten much better than this gameplay loop 24 ******* years later.
I tried to protect you with my vote, but someone decided a tie was a good idea.

BTW, since you are willing to accept a bit of jank, I recommend you try Werewolf: The Apocalypse – Earthblood.

It feels like a game you'd find in a time capsule from 20 years ago and I think it will scratch your itch for White Wolf better than what you are currently playing.
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Zothique wrote: October 3rd, 2024, 11:25
This game is so ******* ****. I can't believe people got paid actual money to make this.

Here's how it goes.

1. Gay dialogue scene "oh Anezka we can't **** b/c of God, **** is horrible"
2. Go massacre hordes of monsters, most of your hits not landing, for 30 minutes plus.
3. Another gay dialogue scene.
4. Rinse. Repeat.

This isn't a VtM/White Wolf game, it's a "we've got to compete with Diablo" asslick cashgrab for its time with the Vampire IP. Bloodlines, even as jank-****** as it is, is a better "game" than this pile of animal feces.

We deserve to have a ******* comet his this garbage dump of a planet at this point. Because we really haven't gotten much better than this gameplay loop 24 ******* years later.
So what you're saying is you got filtered. I think the new COD is coming out soon if you wanna go play that.
I'm just stating the facts.
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Vergil wrote: October 3rd, 2024, 21:31
Zothique wrote: October 3rd, 2024, 11:25
This game is so ******* ****. I can't believe people got paid actual money to make this.

Here's how it goes.

1. Gay dialogue scene "oh Anezka we can't **** b/c of God, **** is horrible"
2. Go massacre hordes of monsters, most of your hits not landing, for 30 minutes plus.
3. Another gay dialogue scene.
4. Rinse. Repeat.

This isn't a VtM/White Wolf game, it's a "we've got to compete with Diablo" asslick cashgrab for its time with the Vampire IP. Bloodlines, even as jank-****** as it is, is a better "game" than this pile of animal feces.

We deserve to have a ******* comet his this garbage dump of a planet at this point. Because we really haven't gotten much better than this gameplay loop 24 ******* years later.
So what you're saying is you got filtered. I think the new COD is coming out soon if you wanna go play that.
Hey now, don't lump in COD players with this guy just because he is too ******** to appreciate VTM:Redemption
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J1M wrote: October 3rd, 2024, 21:24
Zothique wrote: October 3rd, 2024, 11:25
This game is so ******* ****. I can't believe people got paid actual money to make this.

Here's how it goes.

1. Gay dialogue scene "oh Anezka we can't **** b/c of God, **** is horrible"
2. Go massacre hordes of monsters, most of your hits not landing, for 30 minutes plus.
3. Another gay dialogue scene.
4. Rinse. Repeat.

This isn't a VtM/White Wolf game, it's a "we've got to compete with Diablo" asslick cashgrab for its time with the Vampire IP. Bloodlines, even as jank-****** as it is, is a better "game" than this pile of animal feces.

We deserve to have a ******* comet his this garbage dump of a planet at this point. Because we really haven't gotten much better than this gameplay loop 24 ******* years later.
I tried to protect you with my vote, but someone decided a tie was a good idea.

BTW, since you are willing to accept a bit of jank, I recommend you try Werewolf: The Apocalypse – Earthblood.

It feels like a game you'd find in a time capsule from 20 years ago and I think it will scratch your itch for White Wolf better than what you are currently playing.

It's gay and Vergil wanted to play it?!

I am shocked! SHOCKED!!
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J1M wrote: October 3rd, 2024, 21:24
Zothique wrote: October 3rd, 2024, 11:25
This game is so ******* ****. I can't believe people got paid actual money to make this.

Here's how it goes.

1. Gay dialogue scene "oh Anezka we can't **** b/c of God, **** is horrible"
2. Go massacre hordes of monsters, most of your hits not landing, for 30 minutes plus.
3. Another gay dialogue scene.
4. Rinse. Repeat.

This isn't a VtM/White Wolf game, it's a "we've got to compete with Diablo" asslick cashgrab for its time with the Vampire IP. Bloodlines, even as jank-****** as it is, is a better "game" than this pile of animal feces.

We deserve to have a ******* comet his this garbage dump of a planet at this point. Because we really haven't gotten much better than this gameplay loop 24 ******* years later.
I tried to protect you with my vote, but someone decided a tie was a good idea.

BTW, since you are willing to accept a bit of jank, I recommend you try Werewolf: The Apocalypse – Earthblood.

It feels like a game you'd find in a time capsule from 20 years ago and I think it will scratch your itch for White Wolf better than what you are currently playing.
Can't play that b/c I'm on an integrated graphics laptop, but I read it's total ***. Also **** Werewolf from that era. Bunch of hippie patchouli ********.
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Vergil wrote: October 3rd, 2024, 21:31
Zothique wrote: October 3rd, 2024, 11:25
This game is so ******* ****. I can't believe people got paid actual money to make this.

Here's how it goes.

1. Gay dialogue scene "oh Anezka we can't **** b/c of God, **** is horrible"
2. Go massacre hordes of monsters, most of your hits not landing, for 30 minutes plus.
3. Another gay dialogue scene.
4. Rinse. Repeat.

This isn't a VtM/White Wolf game, it's a "we've got to compete with Diablo" asslick cashgrab for its time with the Vampire IP. Bloodlines, even as jank-****** as it is, is a better "game" than this pile of animal feces.

We deserve to have a ******* comet his this garbage dump of a planet at this point. Because we really haven't gotten much better than this gameplay loop 24 ******* years later.
So what you're saying is you got filtered. I think the new COD is coming out soon if you wanna go play that.
Yeah I'm a ******/pussy/no-skill loser. Let's get it all out on the table right now so we can focus on "THE FUN" that is sure to come later.
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Zothique wrote: October 3rd, 2024, 23:13
J1M wrote: October 3rd, 2024, 21:24
Zothique wrote: October 3rd, 2024, 11:25
This game is so ******* ****. I can't believe people got paid actual money to make this.

Here's how it goes.

1. Gay dialogue scene "oh Anezka we can't **** b/c of God, **** is horrible"
2. Go massacre hordes of monsters, most of your hits not landing, for 30 minutes plus.
3. Another gay dialogue scene.
4. Rinse. Repeat.

This isn't a VtM/White Wolf game, it's a "we've got to compete with Diablo" asslick cashgrab for its time with the Vampire IP. Bloodlines, even as jank-****** as it is, is a better "game" than this pile of animal feces.

We deserve to have a ******* comet his this garbage dump of a planet at this point. Because we really haven't gotten much better than this gameplay loop 24 ******* years later.
I tried to protect you with my vote, but someone decided a tie was a good idea.

BTW, since you are willing to accept a bit of jank, I recommend you try Werewolf: The Apocalypse – Earthblood.

It feels like a game you'd find in a time capsule from 20 years ago and I think it will scratch your itch for White Wolf better than what you are currently playing.
Can't play that b/c I'm on an integrated graphics laptop, but I read it's total ***. Also **** Werewolf from that era. Bunch of hippie patchouli ********.
I liked it. It felt nostalgic. It is a stealth game where failing the stealth aspect lets you turn into a werewolf and tear up the place instead of loading a saved game.
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I am about to wrap up Prague, its rough for sure.

Did anyone actually play that around release? Was the AI always that ******? Combat is a complete mess, sometimes my dudes are refusing to act, or just run off in a different direction, I die. After reload most of the enemies are just fiddling their thumbs.
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1998 wrote: October 4th, 2024, 12:31
I am about to wrap up Prague, its rough for sure.

Did anyone actually play that around release? Was the AI always that ******? Combat is a complete mess, sometimes my dudes are refusing to act, or just run off in a different direction, I die. After reload most of the enemies are just fiddling their thumbs.
Try to have them in neutral stance to prevent them from chasing fleeing enemies. Or even a defensive stance when you really need them in place. Shift+r breaks everyone off so that they're no longer following you, which is quite handy if you want an ambush. r makes them rejoin. You can leave them behind, kite a couple of enemies and then have them rejoin when the fighting starts. You can tweak the ai in the main menu so that they don't burn through their blood pools when in aggressive stance. Also make sure to switch it off in the cities because they will attack random guards for no good reason.
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Element wrote: October 4th, 2024, 12:59
1998 wrote: October 4th, 2024, 12:31
I am about to wrap up Prague, its rough for sure.

Did anyone actually play that around release? Was the AI always that ******? Combat is a complete mess, sometimes my dudes are refusing to act, or just run off in a different direction, I die. After reload most of the enemies are just fiddling their thumbs.
Try to have them in neutral stance to prevent them from chasing fleeing enemies. Or even a defensive stance when you really need them in place. Shift+r breaks everyone off so that they're no longer following you, which is quite handy if you want an ambush. r makes them rejoin. You can leave them behind, kite a couple of enemies and then have them rejoin when the fighting starts. You can tweak the ai in the main menu so that they don't burn through their blood pools when in aggressive stance. Also make sure to switch it off in the cities because they will attack random guards for no good reason.
Yeah I just had that as well, didn't even notice it at first.

I thought they are switching stances themselves, need to check again.
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1998 wrote: October 4th, 2024, 15:22
Element wrote: October 4th, 2024, 12:59
1998 wrote: October 4th, 2024, 12:31
I am about to wrap up Prague, its rough for sure.

Did anyone actually play that around release? Was the AI always that ******? Combat is a complete mess, sometimes my dudes are refusing to act, or just run off in a different direction, I die. After reload most of the enemies are just fiddling their thumbs.
Try to have them in neutral stance to prevent them from chasing fleeing enemies. Or even a defensive stance when you really need them in place. Shift+r breaks everyone off so that they're no longer following you, which is quite handy if you want an ambush. r makes them rejoin. You can leave them behind, kite a couple of enemies and then have them rejoin when the fighting starts. You can tweak the ai in the main menu so that they don't burn through their blood pools when in aggressive stance. Also make sure to switch it off in the cities because they will attack random guards for no good reason.
Yeah I just had that as well, didn't even notice it at first.

I thought they are switching stances themselves, need to check again.
lol ok just noticed stance is group wide, I assumed you can select different stances for different chars.
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What a game. I'll post some thoughts tomorrow. I stayed up past my bedtime to beat it.
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Oyster Sauce wrote: October 5th, 2024, 07:22
What a game. I'll post some thoughts tomorrow. I stayed up past my bedtime to beat it.
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1998 wrote: October 3rd, 2024, 18:11
Just had another look at the potential games list @Oyster Sauce

Why Oblivion over Morrowind?
Because we had a Morrowind multiplayer server a while ago that may be brought back at some point.
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Oyster Sauce wrote: October 5th, 2024, 21:40
1998 wrote: October 3rd, 2024, 18:11
Just had another look at the potential games list @Oyster Sauce

Why Oblivion over Morrowind?
Because we had a Morrowind multiplayer server a while ago that may be brought back at some point.
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Vergil wrote: October 5th, 2024, 21:42
Oyster Sauce wrote: October 5th, 2024, 21:40
1998 wrote: October 3rd, 2024, 18:11
Just had another look at the potential games list @Oyster Sauce

Why Oblivion over Morrowind?
Because we had a Morrowind multiplayer server a while ago that may be brought back at some point.
I collected a list of mods for you to use and yet you still wont start it back up you Goddamn womanizing, raping, trollin, stupid, pickle-suited ******!
That's good but can you host the server too?
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I just finished reading the manual and an unusual feature stood out that allows the AI to make use of anything you bind to your quick slots: Image
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Items such as Blood Vials that you place in
the Quick Inventory Slots are available for
AI use; and the Disciplines you place in
the Quick Use Slots are more likely to be
used by the AI than any other powers.
Time will tell if that is a blessing or a curseImage
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Trying to start playing Vampire The Masquerade Redemption for the first time because of this thread. It's kinda hard, actually. Christof often entered into torpor. And awakening scrolls aren't that common, at least for now. Any advice how to not fall so easily and regularly?
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Stock up on Awaken scrolls and try to get enemies seperated so you can suck them dry (they can't escape somehow other than allies attacking you while bloodsucking) and keep the one that awakens dead party members behind meaning ranged combat.
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SpellSword wrote: October 6th, 2024, 13:33
I just finished reading the manual and an unusual feature stood out that allows the AI to make use of anything you bind to your quick slots: Image
VTM:R Manual wrote:
In addition to these specific tools, you
can influence the coterie AI in subtle ways:
Items such as Blood Vials that you place in
the Quick Inventory Slots are available for
AI use; and the Disciplines you place in
the Quick Use Slots are more likely to be
used by the AI than any other powers.
Time will tell if that is a blessing or a curseImage
► The manual also had some nice artwork
I was surprised that Vampire: The Masquerade Redemption is a real time hack and slash, I'd thought from the screenshots on the box that this was going to be turn based combat with multiple party members.
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Allies will constantly consume whatever blood restoration items are in their inventory, quick slot or not. They'd spam some powers I had assigned and completely ignored others.
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Trying to start playing Vampire The Masquerade Redemption for the first time because of this thread. It's kinda hard, actually. Christof often entered into torpor. And awakening scrolls aren't that common, at least for now. Any advice how to not fall so easily and regularly?
You can fight enemies 1 at a time by inching forward until you hear one of them react and then just LoS kite them around a corner. If you find a dungeon difficult, you can retreat back to your bed to spend XP. Walk The Abyss scrolls teleport you to your base and let you go right back to where you were like a Diablo portal. Blood Healing output is ridiculous after you put a few points into it.
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What a ride. Glad I didn't drop it early on. Its rough, at times hardcore, but well worth it.

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I have given up on the gay vampire game. Nonstop boring dungeon crawl with "story"/cuckoldry in between. Into the trash it goes.

I'm not even going to play Deus Ex again, either. I've played that **** like seven times by now. **** Halloween. I hope Hurricane ****** destroys us all.
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If the vote for these two games was tied, how come almost every post is about the ******** vampire game?
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Zothique wrote: October 7th, 2024, 04:11
I have given up on the gay vampire game. Nonstop boring dungeon crawl with "story"/cuckoldry in between. Into the trash it goes.

I'm not even going to play Deus Ex again, either. I've played that **** like seven times by now. **** Halloween. I hope Hurricane ****** destroys us all.
Maybe video games aren't for you.
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Tweed wrote: October 7th, 2024, 06:08
Zothique wrote: October 7th, 2024, 04:11
I have given up on the gay vampire game. Nonstop boring dungeon crawl with "story"/cuckoldry in between. Into the trash it goes.

I'm not even going to play Deus Ex again, either. I've played that **** like seven times by now. **** Halloween. I hope Hurricane ****** destroys us all.
Maybe video games aren't for you.
I'm actually starting to get that impression about myself, no joke.

Most of this **** just doesn't do anything for me anymore. Getting old I guess.
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Zothique wrote: October 7th, 2024, 06:40
Tweed wrote: October 7th, 2024, 06:08
Zothique wrote: October 7th, 2024, 04:11
I have given up on the gay vampire game. Nonstop boring dungeon crawl with "story"/cuckoldry in between. Into the trash it goes.

I'm not even going to play Deus Ex again, either. I've played that **** like seven times by now. **** Halloween. I hope Hurricane ****** destroys us all.
Maybe video games aren't for you.
I'm actually starting to get that impression about myself, no joke.

Most of this **** just doesn't do anything for me anymore. Getting old I guess.
Should have voted for baldurs gate 1
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Alright, let's do this.

GOG Deus Ex GOTY and GMDX v9.0.3, a mod that is now apparently 7 years old.
What could possibly go wrong.

Edit: I just started up the game and I swear to god I'm not tearing up you're tearing up shut up. I want to go back.
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