Final Fantasy XI

[Kalarion]

Look, I've never played the game at all and have no opinion on it whatsoever, and so far you guys, not Vergil, have convinced me that it sounds awful and I should never give it the time of day.

Sure, V's probably sulking a little because his friends are playing a game he doesn't like without him, especially Arcane, whom he likes and respects and seems to genuinely want to save from what he believes to be a torturous experience. But from where I'm sitting, the reason his dislike for the game has become a constant refrain is because you, Kalarion, and Shillitron cannot seem to handle other people not liking something you like and you keep insisting on making it a big deal.

Yes, I am not a fan of games I like being **** on. When people **** on them I get tempted to defend said game's qualities. No one you listed has a "problem" with others not liking a game, or stating why. When poo get flung, poo fly back.

How is that not strange? Why would you push back against someone just not being into it? That's very strange behavior to me. I never got the slightest pushback over not liking games people were playing in chat before, especially from what I assume to be the members of this "clique". At most, I could see wanting to reassure people who haven't played that it's possible to like the game, but this is absolute "seething" level.

eta: btw, I don't think I've ever really interacted with Gastrick at all. I know Fin quit the game and he and I are friends, but I haven't heard him say anything about it afterward. I don't remember anyone else disliking it. Is my "clique" literally just Vergil?

See above for the bolded. The only exception to the point I made in refutation (that is, that none of us talk **** unless it's started first) is @Shillitron , noted ****-stirrer and albatross around Rusty's neck. He enjoys poking at people for funsies. Especially when they're in an excitable state.

Actually, let me expand on this a little bit since I'm going to bed and won't see you reply.

If you like a game and you get a friend to try it out and your friend hates the game, what I would consider socially normal responses would include things like "Oh, okay, sorry you didn't enjoy it, let's play something else." or "If you want to give it another try, you can do x, y, and z to address the issues you mentioned."; "No, all of your negative opinions are LIES, how DARE you spread FAKE NEWS about you not liking this game?!" is fundamentally a noticeably abnormal response. It's strange to me that you think that isn't "at all" strange.

I agree that graciousness, patience and offers of support are the normal response. We took it, with one exception (mine). In the exception's case, I apologized to Vergil publicly in IRC. I regret snapping at him when it would have been obvious with a little thought on my part that he was struggling and frustrated, trying to get into the game for the sake of playing with bros. What the **** else do you want me to do besides what I did (that is, apologize and offer future support)?

The only time you see a voluble reaction from me (or us) is as a reaction. The bolded is a mischaracterization of my response to Gastrick and/or others ******** on various qualities of the game that I disagree with him on.

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I brought it up and Kal immediately started ******** himself that I used a single negative word -
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What are you talking about. Post screenshots, or give me some recollection of words said so I can check the IRC log please. I don't remember this at all.

[ArcaneLurker]

The things bad about the game make it good, what? Having a broken UI that doesn't target properly and uses a PS2 controller, and how it takes 20 minutes of walking to do any town stuff? Not even getting into the lack of satisfying progression with the offensive spells being weaker than hitting the enemy with your sword and all the animations being lame, and that there's nothing interesting to do outside of grinding that isn't brokenly slow.

"You grinded for 10 more hours and then could clear the hurdle with ease, congratulations"

The only complaint listed here that is valid is the broken UI. Everything else is completely false. I can understand why you don't know what you're talking about, you joined and barely heard from any of us. I regret not being more active with you. If you started playing again I'd support your initial hours more.

You're still wrong though.

Everything he said is true and multiple other people have expressed identical sentiments.
The UI is objectively bad and you guys STILL have to tinker with it occasionally.
Every single time I would play with you guys half the play time was spent walking and trying desperately to not accidentally aggro an enemy and reset 30 minutes of progress spent walking.
The progression sucks ****. You just run around in a circle killing the same 5 enemies over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over to get meager scraps of xp so you can level up and get a marginal imperceptible stat increase. Quests don't give you any good gear to get more gear you have to grind for gil to spend on the auction house.
The offensive spells take ages for you to charge up your bar from mindlessly swinging, no sorry, watching your character mindlessly swing while you yourself do nothing for a pittance of damage.
The animations are extremely boring and sluggish with everything being punctuated with the exact same animations for any task. Slowly pull your sword out at the st art of combat, slowly sheathe it at the end etc.
Grinding is the ENTIRE game. I have never not once seen or heard you guys do ANYTHING but kill the same enemies over and over and over again every quest involved either going to a place and then returning or killing the same enemies over and over and over and over again until RNG blesses you with a quest item. There is no gameplay. It's pure cookie clicker trash. Go play WoW and never leave the starter zone until you get to level 20 purely through killing enemies and then walk on foot to the other end of the continent and then do nothing but kill mobs for 20 more levels and you get the FFXI experience except WoW has functional controls that don't take multiple DAYS of troubleshooting to fix.

You're reaching the absolute bottom of the cope barrel when your response to criticism is "heh, well actually the game being broken and not fun actually makes it super hardcore, guess you just couldn't handle it kid...."

From my experiences, I'm not seeing a lie. Most recently, I did some quests which were 100% walking or grinding mobs for loot that ought to be easy to get but isn't, and finished it with a quest where I auto-ran the span of two maps (whilst watching Sopranos) only to not find the target where it said he should be, and get caught by a level 16 enemy at the end, which was a swift end for Crenk. The quest was from a guide of recommended early quests too btw.

The combat feels particularly bad, and I don't see how it will ever be engaging if all the skills/ magic uses the charged up TP the same way. That's a slog every time you want to do something other than auto-attack. I'm already level 13 and there's not been a new skill or anything, it's just auto-attack with the occasional slightly stronger attack, which is remarkable, in a bad way. Since the game seem more focused on economy than combat, I'd hope that side of it is convenient but the auction house is actually a struggle, it's such a hassle to sell things individually, and then be limited by that many slots, and then you have to walk over to your residence to pick up any money. The good thing is that there's no forced diversity, and it's in a decent setting, and you can basically play it whilst doing other things, even creating macros to grind (but I'm not sure what the point of playing is, in that case?) There was a funny moment where a father gives you his son's fishing rod to punish him for crying, I didn't expect that, but as someone that doesn't really like MMOs, I wouldn't rate the experience positively so far.

If I'm totally honest, playing it just makes me wanna play other games, Black Desert, Guild Wars or FF12, but I feel like I've got to see through it to a certain point in order to not disappoint others, or to definitively make a conclusion after reaching level-locked content.

Why is it so important to you that nobody is allowed to dislike this game?

Why is it so important for the Vergilsphere to complain about this game day in and day out?

Maybe he and Finarfin are frustrated because they would want to play with you guys if it was a different game.

[Vergil]

The only complaint listed here that is valid is the broken UI. Everything else is completely false. I can understand why you don't know what you're talking about, you joined and barely heard from any of us. I regret not being more active with you. If you started playing again I'd support your initial hours more.

You're still wrong though.

Everything he said is true and multiple other people have expressed identical sentiments.
The UI is objectively bad and you guys STILL have to tinker with it occasionally.
Every single time I would play with you guys half the play time was spent walking and trying desperately to not accidentally aggro an enemy and reset 30 minutes of progress spent walking.
The progression sucks ****. You just run around in a circle killing the same 5 enemies over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over to get meager scraps of xp so you can level up and get a marginal imperceptible stat increase. Quests don't give you any good gear to get more gear you have to grind for gil to spend on the auction house.
The offensive spells take ages for you to charge up your bar from mindlessly swinging, no sorry, watching your character mindlessly swing while you yourself do nothing for a pittance of damage.
The animations are extremely boring and sluggish with everything being punctuated with the exact same animations for any task. Slowly pull your sword out at the st art of combat, slowly sheathe it at the end etc.
Grinding is the ENTIRE game. I have never not once seen or heard you guys do ANYTHING but kill the same enemies over and over and over again every quest involved either going to a place and then returning or killing the same enemies over and over and over and over again until RNG blesses you with a quest item. There is no gameplay. It's pure cookie clicker trash. Go play WoW and never leave the starter zone until you get to level 20 purely through killing enemies and then walk on foot to the other end of the continent and then do nothing but kill mobs for 20 more levels and you get the FFXI experience except WoW has functional controls that don't take multiple DAYS of troubleshooting to fix.

You're reaching the absolute bottom of the cope barrel when your response to criticism is "heh, well actually the game being broken and not fun actually makes it super hardcore, guess you just couldn't handle it kid...."

From my experiences, I'm not seeing a lie. Most recently, I did some quests which were 100% walking or grinding mobs for loot that ought to be easy to get but isn't, and finished it with a quest where I auto-ran the span of two maps (whilst watching Sopranos) only to not find the target where it said he should be, and get caught by a level 16 enemy at the end, which was a swift end for Crenk. The quest was from a guide of recommended early quests too btw.

The combat feels particularly bad, and I don't see how it will ever be engaging if all the skills/ magic uses the charged up TP the same way. That's a slog every time you want to do something other than auto-attack. I'm already level 13 and there's not been a new skill or anything, it's just auto-attack with the occasional slightly stronger attack, which is remarkable, in a bad way. Since the game seem more focused on economy than combat, I'd hope that side of it is convenient but the auction house is actually a struggle, it's such a hassle to sell things individually, and then be limited by that many slots, and then you have to walk over to your residence to pick up any money. The good thing is that there's no forced diversity, and it's in a decent setting, and you can basically play it whilst doing other things, even creating macros to grind (but I'm not sure what the point of playing is, in that case?) There was a funny moment where a father gives you his son's fishing rod to punish him for crying, I didn't expect that, but as someone that doesn't really like MMOs, I wouldn't rate the experience positively so far.

If I'm totally honest, playing it just makes me wanna play other games, Black Desert, Guild Wars or FF12, but I feel like I've got to see through it to a certain point in order to not disappoint others, or to definitively make a conclusion after reaching level-locked content.

You're always gonna end up disappointing them unless you "play" the game 24/7 for the rest of your life. Don't sunk cost fallacy more hours of your life into this turd.

[ArcaneLurker]

Everything he said is true and multiple other people have expressed identical sentiments.
The UI is objectively bad and you guys STILL have to tinker with it occasionally.
Every single time I would play with you guys half the play time was spent walking and trying desperately to not accidentally aggro an enemy and reset 30 minutes of progress spent walking.
The progression sucks ****. You just run around in a circle killing the same 5 enemies over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over to get meager scraps of xp so you can level up and get a marginal imperceptible stat increase. Quests don't give you any good gear to get more gear you have to grind for gil to spend on the auction house.
The offensive spells take ages for you to charge up your bar from mindlessly swinging, no sorry, watching your character mindlessly swing while you yourself do nothing for a pittance of damage.
The animations are extremely boring and sluggish with everything being punctuated with the exact same animations for any task. Slowly pull your sword out at the st art of combat, slowly sheathe it at the end etc.
Grinding is the ENTIRE game. I have never not once seen or heard you guys do ANYTHING but kill the same enemies over and over and over again every quest involved either going to a place and then returning or killing the same enemies over and over and over and over again until RNG blesses you with a quest item. There is no gameplay. It's pure cookie clicker trash. Go play WoW and never leave the starter zone until you get to level 20 purely through killing enemies and then walk on foot to the other end of the continent and then do nothing but kill mobs for 20 more levels and you get the FFXI experience except WoW has functional controls that don't take multiple DAYS of troubleshooting to fix.

You're reaching the absolute bottom of the cope barrel when your response to criticism is "heh, well actually the game being broken and not fun actually makes it super hardcore, guess you just couldn't handle it kid...."

From my experiences, I'm not seeing a lie. Most recently, I did some quests which were 100% walking or grinding mobs for loot that ought to be easy to get but isn't, and finished it with a quest where I auto-ran the span of two maps (whilst watching Sopranos) only to not find the target where it said he should be, and get caught by a level 16 enemy at the end, which was a swift end for Crenk. The quest was from a guide of recommended early quests too btw.

The combat feels particularly bad, and I don't see how it will ever be engaging if all the skills/ magic uses the charged up TP the same way. That's a slog every time you want to do something other than auto-attack. I'm already level 13 and there's not been a new skill or anything, it's just auto-attack with the occasional slightly stronger attack, which is remarkable, in a bad way. Since the game seem more focused on economy than combat, I'd hope that side of it is convenient but the auction house is actually a struggle, it's such a hassle to sell things individually, and then be limited by that many slots, and then you have to walk over to your residence to pick up any money. The good thing is that there's no forced diversity, and it's in a decent setting, and you can basically play it whilst doing other things, even creating macros to grind (but I'm not sure what the point of playing is, in that case?) There was a funny moment where a father gives you his son's fishing rod to punish him for crying, I didn't expect that, but as someone that doesn't really like MMOs, I wouldn't rate the experience positively so far.

If I'm totally honest, playing it just makes me wanna play other games, Black Desert, Guild Wars or FF12, but I feel like I've got to see through it to a certain point in order to not disappoint others, or to definitively make a conclusion after reaching level-locked content.

You're always gonna end up disappointing them unless you "play" the game 24/7 for the rest of your life. Don't sunk cost fallacy more hours of your life into this turd.

24/7 is right considering I'm in a different timezone so I can't even fulfil the role of a tank when they probably need it anyway.

[Finarfin]

From my experiences, I'm not seeing a lie. Most recently, I did some quests which were 100% walking or grinding mobs for loot that ought to be easy to get but isn't, and finished it with a quest where I auto-ran the span of two maps (whilst watching Sopranos) only to not find the target where it said he should be, and get caught by a level 16 enemy at the end, which was a swift end for Crenk. The quest was from a guide of recommended early quests too btw.

The combat feels particularly bad, and I don't see how it will ever be engaging if all the skills/ magic uses the charged up TP the same way. That's a slog every time you want to do something other than auto-attack. I'm already level 13 and there's not been a new skill or anything, it's just auto-attack with the occasional slightly stronger attack, which is remarkable, in a bad way. Since the game seem more focused on economy than combat, I'd hope that side of it is convenient but the auction house is actually a struggle, it's such a hassle to sell things individually, and then be limited by that many slots, and then you have to walk over to your residence to pick up any money. The good thing is that there's no forced diversity, and it's in a decent setting, and you can basically play it whilst doing other things, even creating macros to grind (but I'm not sure what the point of playing is, in that case?) There was a funny moment where a father gives you his son's fishing rod to punish him for crying, I didn't expect that, but as someone that doesn't really like MMOs, I wouldn't rate the experience positively so far.

If I'm totally honest, playing it just makes me wanna play other games, Black Desert, Guild Wars or FF12, but I feel like I've got to see through it to a certain point in order to not disappoint others, or to definitively make a conclusion after reaching level-locked content.

You're always gonna end up disappointing them unless you "play" the game 24/7 for the rest of your life. Don't sunk cost fallacy more hours of your life into this turd.

24/7 is right considering I'm in a different timezone so I can't even fulfil the role of a tank when they probably need it anyway.

I'm not gonna rip on the game but different timezones would make the group content already harder and being a tank doubly so. I have the feeling that if there would be a game where the occasional party up would be fun AND where you can do stuff solo (maybe doing personal quests, doing stuff that benefits the group like farming materials or maintaining things that the group owns) would be better. I mean I like XI world, atmosphere and music but I just can't with the gameplay loop and menus. A slightly more modern MMO would be fine. Like I played maybe 5-6 levels with Manny in a warcraft private server and it was fun walking around doing quests while he did his troll accent.

[Kalarion]

If I'm totally honest, playing it just makes me wanna play other games, Black Desert, Guild Wars or FF12...

This is what it comes down to, I think. MMOs like FF XI are just a different beast to MMOs like WoW or Black Desert. If it's not for you, it's not for you. I appreciate your being willing to give the full gameplay experience a shot, and I've been looking forward to grouping with you as a White Mage.

...but I feel like I've got to see through it to a certain point in order to not disappoint others, or to definitively make a conclusion after reaching level-locked content.

I feel like this may in part refer to my asking whether you planned to log in yesterday in IRC. To be clear, I didn't do that to pressure you. I asked because, if you did want to continue playing, my plan to help get you the Clipeus shield required you to be present (I couldn't just kill the mob and give you the item).

24/7 is right considering I'm in a different timezone so I can't even fulfil the role of a tank when they probably need it anyway.

Yes, this was something I hadn't thought of. Being... 5 hours? ahead of us would be rough for you. And Orin is probably a very demanding wife

[J1M]

Yep, guilty as charged. Some of us would like more people to play the game we like so we can have a full HQ party.

[Vergil]

Yep, guilty as charged. Some of us would like more people to play the game we like so we can have a full HQ party.

And yet you have to find random ****** to party with because most people who try the game bounce off of it because they start doing things like watching shows on the other monitor because it quickly becomes a monotonous second job instead of a video game they play for entertainment.

[ArcaneLurker]

I feel like this may in part refer to my asking whether you planned to log in yesterday in IRC. To be clear, I didn't do that to pressure you. I asked because, if you did want to continue playing, my plan to help get you the Clipeus shield required you to be present (I couldn't just kill the mob and give you the item).

Not in particular, I was actually already playing it in the background, of doing other things when you said that and I wasn't paying attention to IRC for that reason.
It's more so that, I tried it out because Whiteshark pinged me. My initial reaction to it was not good though.

Yes, this was something I hadn't thought of. Being... 5 hours? ahead of us would be rough for you. And Orin is probably a very demanding wife

Are they still peddling that?

I'd keep the public arguments offline if that were there case.

[Stack of Turtles]

I have playfully jabbed at Vergil once or twice in the multiplayer IRC chat about him coming back. I don't think I have ever seen anyone try to "force" him to come back. That is dwarfed by how much he has talked about FF11 negatively since.

At any rate, I wouldn't try to "force" him to come back.

Nobody said "force"... I said "beg" (which objectively happened)

No.

Ok, you're not being serious. I'm sorry I bothered.

I'm being completely serious. I wouldn't have the slightest issue with that and it genuinely unnerves me that you do.

We have literally had different people, unprompted, express how satisfying the progression in the game is in the LS chat over the last week. And not necessarily about the same game elements either.

I understand why some people bounce off the game, but it does a number of things that you don't really see in games anymore that have payoffs you can't really see at level 12.

So what? How is "I'm satisfied" an argument against someone else saying "I'm not satisfied"? It's okay if you like the game! The issue is taking it personally when other people don't!
This constant conflation is what's driving me nuts here. The fact that you all feel the need to post here to "debunk" what I and others said by offering completely unrelated opinions is insane. This game is not your baby!

Yes, I am not a fan of games I like being **** on. When people **** on them I get tempted to defend said game's qualities. No one you listed has a "problem" with others not liking a game, or stating why. When poo get flung, poo fly back.

Yeah, this is the problem. You're so defensive that you're interpreting "I genuinely dislike this game for the following subjective reasons" as "******** on it". You really should just get over it.

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I brought it up and Kal immediately started ******** himself that I used a single negative word -
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What are you talking about. Post screenshots, or give me some recollection of words said so I can check the IRC log please. I don't remember this at all.

Vergil was playing MHF, I saw him kvetching about something about jap game issues, so I asked him if he'd been suckered back into playing FFXI. Ten minutes later, after he'd already answered me that he hadn't, you came in with

wat
he's playing MHF
and he wouldn't have been "suckered"
rude

and when Vergil responded that he did indeed feel suckered, you argued about it for several minutes.
Because I think you'll understand, let me sum up my exact reaction to this: Jesus, man, take it on the chin.

[J1M]

So what? How is "I'm satisfied" an argument against someone else saying "I'm not satisfied"? It's okay if you like the game! The issue is taking it personally when other people don't!
This constant conflation is what's driving me nuts here. The fact that you all feel the need to post here to "debunk" what I and others said by offering completely unrelated opinions is insane. This game is not your baby!

We know you don't want to play the game. I don't really understand why you want us to know that so hard.

My rebuttal is directed at the lurkers who might be reading the thread and considering playing the game. If they only see negative impressions of the game, they are less likely to try it.

[Stack of Turtles]

We know you don't want to play the game. I don't really understand why you want us to know that so hard.

Vergil posted in the this thread yesterday because he found out in chat that Arcane was playing, and wanted to let Arcane, who is not in mp chat and wouldn't otherwise know about all the back and forth, that he isn't alone if he doesn't enjoy the game and shouldn't force himself. Which, by the way, seems to have been right. Now, maybe you want to play with more people and you take it personally to have Arcane poached, but it's definitely a reasonable and even kind thing to do from the perspective of someone who hated the game. The entire rest of this argument happened because some of the FFXI-players couldn't just let that go.

My rebuttal is directed at the lurkers who might be reading the thread and considering playing the game. If they only see negative impressions of the game, they are less likely to try it.

Hope you get paid for shilling it, then.

Okay, fine, your post wasn't really particularly bad, if you were just trying to say "people have reasonable disagreements about the game so anyone who sees this shouldn't be swayed by the negative opinions until he's tried it to see whether he agrees", that's fine, I just don't really think it was the time because you should have predicted it would only contribute to the argument.

[Kalarion]

Are they still peddling that?

I'd keep the public arguments offline if that were there case.

No, no one believes it anymore. I just thought it was a good opportunity to bring up an old joke

[Vergil]

My rebuttal is directed at the lurkers who might be reading the thread and considering playing the game. If they only see negative impressions of the game, they are less likely to try it.

Yea and mine are directed at lurkers who might be reading the thread and considering playing the game. If they only see cope excuses for the game, the more likely they are to waste hours and then get hounded by the ffxi defense force to play all day every day.

[WhiteShark]

"How dare you say anything in response to our whining about a game you like 24/7!"

Vergil posted in the this thread yesterday because he found out in chat that Arcane was playing, and wanted to let Arcane, who is not in mp chat and wouldn't otherwise know about all the back and forth, that he isn't alone if he doesn't enjoy the game and shouldn't force himself.

Anybody who's read the thread already knows @Vergil hates the game, and I'm pretty sure @ArcaneLurker is a functioning adult capable of deciding for himself whether he'd like to continue.

[Vergil]

"How dare you say anything in response to our whining about a game you like 24/7!"

Vergil posted in the this thread yesterday because he found out in chat that Arcane was playing, and wanted to let Arcane, who is not in mp chat and wouldn't otherwise know about all the back and forth, that he isn't alone if he doesn't enjoy the game and shouldn't force himself.

Anybody who's read the thread already knows @Vergil hates the game, and I'm pretty sure @ArcaneLurker is a functioning adult capable of deciding for himself whether he'd like to continue.

This is so disingenuous I kind of think it needs to be saved somewhere as like a case study example.

[WhiteShark]

This is so disingenuous I kind of think it needs to be saved somewhere as like a case study example.

I think you accidentally quoted the wrong post. @Stack of Turtles's posts are up above.

[Stack of Turtles]

"How dare you say anything in response to our whining about a game you like 24/7!"

Okay, **** you, done trying to explain.

[ArcaneLurker]

It's a warzone in here.

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[Shillitron]

I'm sitting in bed with the flu or coof - not sure cause I didn't bother getting a test kit.

Watching both

A) THe boiz fighting dragons on airships
B) FF11 thread exploding in drama with Vergil and StackofTurtles again screaming in pain as they attack the 20 year old **** UI weeb game with no vampires

I miss all the fun. It's not fair.

[Shillitron]

I frankly don't care if you guys don't like it, and I certainly don't want to play a multiplayer game with someone who doesn't enjoy it.

I have playfully jabbed at Vergil once or twice in the multiplayer IRC chat about him coming back. I don't think I have ever seen anyone try to "force" him to come back. That is dwarfed by how much he has talked about FF11 negatively since.

At any rate, I wouldn't try to "force" him to come back.

These two don't speak for me.

I *HAVE* been pushing Vergil to play as much as possible. I know the game won't get better for him, I know he will hate every second of it and I actively pursue his friend groups and social circles like @Finarfin to get them to play this game so that Vergil is continually forced to engage with it.

When Vergil spends 5 hours trying to equip a sword, fix his UI and kill orcs - bitching and complaining the whole time - I enjoy the game more.

[Vergil]

I frankly don't care if you guys don't like it, and I certainly don't want to play a multiplayer game with someone who doesn't enjoy it.

I have playfully jabbed at Vergil once or twice in the multiplayer IRC chat about him coming back. I don't think I have ever seen anyone try to "force" him to come back. That is dwarfed by how much he has talked about FF11 negatively since.

At any rate, I wouldn't try to "force" him to come back.

I *HAVE* been pushing Vergil to play as much as possible. I know the game won't get better for him, I know he will hate every second of it and I actively pursue his friend groups and social circles like @Finarfin to get them to play this game so that Vergil is continually forced to engage with it.

Putting this much thought and time into a person who completely ignored your existence for the past month makes you look really cool and not gay, ******** and obsessed at all btw

[Stack of Turtles]

B) FF11 thread exploding in drama with Vergil and StackofTurtles again screaming in pain as they attack the 20 year old **** UI weeb game with no vampires

I've never played a single game with vampires in it of my own volition

You're really not very smart, I'm afraid.

[Shillitron]

B) FF11 thread exploding in drama with Vergil and StackofTurtles again screaming in pain as they attack the 20 year old **** UI weeb game with no vampires

I've never played a single game with vampires in it of my own volition

You're really not very smart, I'm afraid.

I never actually tried to get you to play FF11 because Vergil doesn't actually care about you. Nobody cares what the ball washer does.

[Shillitron]

Putting this much thought and time into a person who completely ignored your existence for the past month

Reminder - This is why Vergil put me on ignore:




shillitron
@shillitron:rpghq.org
11 Sep 2024 12:08 PM
I noticed Vergil is being extra whiny lately
is he upset that Orin found someone?

orinesque
11 Sep 2024 12:09 PM
>shillitron
>I noticed Vergil is being extra whiny lately
he got rejected from the clique

shillitron
11 Sep 2024 12:09 PM
Yea.. I mean he clearly liked you - all the catty insults

Vergil
11 Sep 2024 12:09 PM
I didn't actually the majority of people wanted me back and ****** you off by asking you to let me back in multiple times. The only person who rejected me was you, another brown person and a guy with enough kids out of wedlock to be honorarily not white.

shillitron
11 Sep 2024 12:09 PM
now that you and lore are holding eachother virtually while modding anti-rainbow BG3 content
hes getting really snippy

Vergil
11 Sep 2024 12:11 PM
>orinesque
>he got rejected from the clique
keep this in mind in like an hour when orin tries to backtrack and say she doesn't even care about this personal argument she started btw

orinesque
11 Sep 2024 12:11 PM
>shillitron
>hes getting really snippy
yes i can understand why he's angry.

orinesque
11 Sep 2024 12:12 PM
Shill just wants to know nitty gritty details of mod ***** drama
and you are falling for it

Vergil
11 Sep 2024 12:13 PM
You LITERALLY responded first

orinesque
11 Sep 2024 12:14 PM
vergil writing angry essays

Vergil
11 Sep 2024 12:14 PM
>shillitron
>vergil on FFXI we dont have any browns or femoids - come home white man
I don't even want you here in this chat there's zero chance I'm playing a game with you.

orinesque
@orinesque:rpghq.org
11 Sep 2024 12:14 PM
this isn't your chat hahaha

orinesque
11 Sep 2024 12:15 PM
go play with shill.


Vergil
11 Sep 2024 12:15 PM
I said I didn't want him here if it was my chat he wouldn't be here but it's not. So I'm not gonna voluntarily interact with him in a way I have control over.


orinesque
11 Sep 2024 12:16 PM
shill or are you callung me a "he"?

Vergil
11 Sep 2024 12:16 PM
>orinesque
>he got rejected from the clique
I don't care to have this argument at all but you said this knowing full in well it's half the story and I would be compelled to respond.

Vergil
11 Sep 2024 12:18 PM
And who you listen to over others

orinesque
11 Sep 2024 12:19 PM
your reaction kinda confirmed the reason why you weren't invited back.

Vergil
11 Sep 2024 12:20 PM
pppfffttt

orinesque
11 Sep 2024 12:20 PM
so yeah we were right.

Vergil
11 Sep 2024 12:20 PM
"Well you reacted negatively after someone treated you negatively so I guess that proves we were right all along!"


orinesque
11 Sep 2024 12:24 PM
i was also not against inviting you after setting up cinny. But you burn your bridges like a crazy pyromaniac. So there you go.

Vergil
11 Sep 2024 12:25 PM
I don't believe you and I'm not doing this publicly any further.


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We left RPGCodex to live in a forum with a bunch of seething homosexuals running around thread to thread being catty melodramatic ******* in between updating the "POST ALMOST-NAKED MEN PICTURES" thread.

Truly a utopia.

[Vergil]

hoes mad

[Shillitron]

hoes mad

Not as mad as you being ousted from pajeetcord. Yikes.

[Vergil]

ffxi is so boring instead of playing this fella went through the irc and to find an argument from a month ago to **** up the thread of this game he allegedly loves. Camp.

[Kalarion]

ffxi is so boring instead of playing this fella went through the irc and to find an argument from a month ago to **** up the thread of this game he allegedly loves. Camp.

Touche. @Shillitron please explain this behavior. If you're sick you can play, see above for your login gift (limited time, I swear to God I'm gonna sell that sucker soon).