List of woke and non-woke role-playing games

[rusty_shackleford]

You can't tell me with a straight face this isn't subversion.

Third edition was just 90s style politically correct. Race restrictions were removed from classes. Of the core 11, 6 were male, 5 were female, because that's as equal as it gets without slightly favoring the women.

yes, that's subversion.

90s style

00s

[Roguey]

00s

The phb was released October 2000, so 00s culture was hardly established.

[ArcaneLurker]

Should compile what elements of which era you would keep in the hypothetical ideal ruleset/ worldbuilding for DnD.

In the third edition book, they used the pronoun of whichever person they decided would represent that class, in the paladin's case https://srd.dndtools.org/srd/classes/ba ... ladin.html

I'm aware. Behold, the 3.5e 'iconic' Paladin:



You can't tell me with a straight face this isn't subversion.

I guess Bioware was actually toning it down with Neverwinter. Interesting.

[rusty_shackleford]

As a biological determinist, I am positive that most females do not play RPGs because of a difference in brain function. They can play as well as males, but they do not achieve the same sense of satisfaction from playing.

In short there is no special game that will attract females--other that LARPing, which is more socialization and theatrics and gaming--and it is a waste of time and effort to attempt such a thing.

https://rpghq.org/gygax-dragonsfoot-qa. ... tent204621

WotC makes less annually from D&D books now than TSR did in the early 80s …. unadjusted for inflation … FYI. D&D has lost most of its core audience by shifting to theatrics in an attempt to 'widen' the audience.

CRPGs that copy what they think made BG3 popular based on a loud minority(e.g., romances, diversity, etc.,), are going to bomb such as dragon age failguard.
The Reddit subforum for BG3 threw a complete fit when they found out the top 3 romances were just the women and tried to rationalize it with things like "l-l-lesbians!". Shadowheart was romanced in over half of all playthroughs, including those where nobody was romanced. The amount of time, money, and effort they wasted on all the male romance/gay content is astounding, and quite honestly, a big middle finger to their core audience considering comparatively they get far less relative to their spending power.

The phb was released October 2000, so 00s culture was hardly established.

It was made by progressive liberals who were ahead of the libtard culture.

[rusty_shackleford]

Should compile what elements of which era you would keep in the hypothetical ideal ruleset/ worldbuilding for DnD.

Everything after 2E has to go, some stuff from 2E has to go.

[rusty_shackleford]

The Reddit subforum for BG3 threw a complete fit when they found out the top 3 romances were just the women and tried to rationalize it with things like "l-l-lesbians!". Shadowheart was romanced in over half of all playthroughs, including those where nobody was romanced. The amount of time, money, and effort they wasted on all the male romance/gay content is astounding, and quite honestly, a big middle finger to their core audience considering comparatively they get far less relative to their spending power.

n.b., Cassandra(the female in the top) was the canon character, and in all the advertising material.
They also never released the data for Valhalla which also let you pick — this time the female was completely unattractive and you're supposed to be playing a viking, so I'm going to guess it was probably >80% and they were too ****** to release the data despite the female once again being the canon choice.

And I know roguey is going to pull up legendary edition data for mass effect, where male Shepard still wins handily, albeit in less of a landslide. That's easily explainable by MELE being more likely to be played by the 'hardcore' fans, and people going thru a second time wanting to try something else.

[ArcaneLurker]

Should compile what elements of which era you would keep in the hypothetical ideal ruleset/ worldbuilding for DnD.

Everything after 2E has to go

What about the Tieflings shaving their legs?

[rusty_shackleford]

Should compile what elements of which era you would keep in the hypothetical ideal ruleset/ worldbuilding for DnD.

Everything after 2E has to go

What about the Tieflings shaving their legs?

planescape is gay, throw it away

[Xenich]

The fact that my Paladin fell because he sided with the homeowner in act 3 who wanted the refugees removed from squatting in his home killed it entirely for me.

Sounds like you broke your oath. BG3 doesn't have alignments so there's no point in being "lawful."

Courage. Stride dauntlessly into action.

Compassion. Show clemency when prudent, and lend your arm to those in need.

Duty. Tend your responsibilities, obey just laws, and support those entrusted to your care.

Fight the Greater Evil. Exerting your wisdom, identify the higher morality in any given instance, and fight for it.

No Mercy for the Wicked. Chasten those who dole out their villainy by wiping their blight from the world forever.

Kindle the Light. Through your acts of mercy, kindness, and forgiveness, kindle the light of hope in the world, beating back despair.

Shelter the Light. Where there is good, beauty, love, and laughter in the world, stand against the wickedness that would swallow it. Where life flourishes, stand against the forces that would render it barren.

Preserve Your Own Light. Delight in song and laughter, in beauty and art. If you allow the light to die in your own heart, you can’t preserve it in the world.

Be the Light. Be a glorious beacon for all who live in despair. Let the light of your joy and courage shine forth in all your deeds.

All of these sound like "protect refugees" really.

[Irenaeus]

Looks like D&D became **** long time ago, how interesting.

There was this jewish plot against Gary Gygax in 1985...



The rest is History.

[ArcaneLurker]

Everything after 2E has to go

What about the Tieflings shaving their legs?

planescape is gay, throw it away

What about Al-Qadim?

[rusty_shackleford]

What about the Tieflings shaving their legs?

planescape is gay, throw it away

What about Al-Qadim?

Al-Qadim isn't its own setting, it's part of Forgotten Realms which is homosexual pornography disguised as a campaign.

[Irenaeus]

The phb was released October 2000, so 00s culture was hardly established.

It was made by progressive liberals who were ahead of the libtard culture.

Reminder that @Roguey is a mega-****** that should be killed.

[Irenaeus]

Should compile what elements of which era you would keep in the hypothetical ideal ruleset/ worldbuilding for DnD.

Everything after 2E has to go

What about the Tieflings shaving their legs?

This art style is so bad LMAO

[Manny V]

d&d was always fuckin gay

[rusty_shackleford]

d&d was always fuckin gay

gygax was a certified chud

[Irenaeus]

d&d was always fuckin gay

Start here

[Irenaeus]

d&d was always fuckin gay

gygax was a certified chud

Yeah, Gary was into ******* hot women fueled by cocaine. He was zero gay.

[ArcaneLurker]

Looks like D&D became **** long time ago, how interesting.

There was this jewish plot against Gary Gygax in 1985...



The rest is History.

Advanced Dungeons & Dragons, Second Edition (1989)
Due to the growing complexity of the game and changes in public perception (partially due to the Satanic Panic of the 1980s), TSR released AD&D Second Edition in 1989. The new edition streamlined many mechanics, softened some darker elements, and sought to make the game more accessible.

It's interesting that the Satanic Panic, which was foolishly aimed at TTRPGs and board games, lead to TSR presumably having financial difficulties.
I wonder where that Satanic Panic started, was it a few testimonies like "I summoned demons playing this game, but now I've repented" etc?

In the wider picture, of how the rot set in:

[Irenaeus]

It's interesting that the Satanic Panic, which was foolishly aimed at TTRPGs and board games, lead to TSR presumably having financial difficulties.

This is jewish propaganda through and through. There was no satanic panic, normal people were concerned about ***** promoting satanism (like they do today). TSR never had financial difficulties. The **** brothers, "partners" of Gary Gigax but in reality his biggest enemies, embezzled all the money then threw him out of the company he had created with his own talent.

tl;dr gas the *****

[Roguey]

It was made by progressive liberals who were ahead of the libtard culture.

I bought the book back in 2001, felt of its time to me. This was following the decade of Captain Planet and the Burger King Kids Club. Looking Glass made half the guards female in 2000's Thief 2.

[rusty_shackleford]

It was made by progressive liberals who were ahead of the libtard culture.

I bought the book back in 2001, felt of its time to me. This was following the decade of Captain Planet and the Burger King Kids Club. Looking Glass made half the guards female in 2000's Thief 2.

roguey, you are a liberal.

[Roguey]

roguey, you are a liberal.

Back then, yes. Now I'm a mildly right-libertarian, somewhat-adjacent to Gygax who got the ball rolling on this cartoon from 1983 that used this particular cast:

[ArcaneLurker]

It's interesting that the Satanic Panic, which was foolishly aimed at TTRPGs and board games, lead to TSR presumably having financial difficulties.

There was no satanic panic

There definitely WAS one though, even if they lie about it. And it was never anything as reasonable as "they're promoting Communism and Anti-Christian sentiment," nor was it particularly aimed at **** (unfortunately).
I know, because I've seen enough of the old lectures from Baptists and similar groups, about it, and their perspective was very much what Rusty mentioned the "no fun allowed" group.
I also had first hand experience of that mentality, where I was banned from watching Harry Potter (not that I care), and I was born after the 80s. My older brother had it worse, even Star Wars was considered a bad influence.

So claiming it never happened is just detracting from your other claims, which I'm inclined to believe. It seems like many good businesses were screwed over by guys making the mistake of trusting *****.

[Irenaeus]

It's interesting that the Satanic Panic, which was foolishly aimed at TTRPGs and board games, lead to TSR presumably having financial difficulties.

There was no satanic panic

There definitely WAS one though,

The word "panic" implies that people concerned with satanism were wrong. They were right, and today satanism is much more open than it was in the 80s.

[ArcaneLurker]

There was no satanic panic

There definitely WAS one though,

The word "panic" implies that people concerned with satanism were wrong. They were right, and today satanism is much more open than it was in the 80s.

An irrational, superstitious, ****** panic was induced in many of them, about music, games, toys. All kinds of things.
They'd see a symbol and immediately claim it was capable of summoning evil.

They were looking over their shoulder, fearing the skinhead punks, rather than caring about what "God's chosen people" did under their noses.
So they were wrong. They didn't understand Satanism, and that's why it dominates now. They didn't understand how the way they treat their children could have been the key to why so many of them are anti-Christian libtards today.

[rusty_shackleford]

roguey, you are a liberal.

Back then, yes. Now I'm a mildly right-libertarian, somewhat-adjacent to Gygax who got the ball rolling on this cartoon from 1983 that used this particular cast:

Gygax designed Bobby the Barbarian. It was supposed to be an insert of his son, Ernie. Or perhaps it was Luke.

[Irenaeus]

roguey, you are a liberal.

Back then, yes. Now I'm a mildly right-libertarian, somewhat-adjacent to Gygax who got the ball rolling on this cartoon from 1983 that used this particular cast:

Gygax designed Bobby the Barbarian. It was supposed to be an insert of his son, Ernie. Or perhaps it was Luke.

Roguey, you ******, you're nothing like Gygax. He ****** hot women! You on the other hand kill, rape and eat your neighborhood's children, not in that particular order.

[Irenaeus]

There definitely WAS one though,

The word "panic" implies that people concerned with satanism were wrong. They were right, and today satanism is much more open than it was in the 80s.

An irrational,

You're already wrong from word 2. Not reading the rest.

Look I only deal with autistic ******* professionally, so if you want to continue this you’ll have to pay me.

[rusty_shackleford]

There definitely WAS one though,

The word "panic" implies that people concerned with satanism were wrong. They were right, and today satanism is much more open than it was in the 80s.

An irrational, superstitious, ****** panic was induced in many of them, about music, games, toys. All kinds of things.
They'd see a symbol and immediately claim it was capable of summoning evil.

They were looking over their shoulder, fearing the skinhead punks, rather than caring about what "God's chosen people" did under their noses.
So they were wrong. They didn't understand Satanism, and that's why it dominates now. They didn't understand how the way they treat their children could have been the key to why so many of them are anti-Christian libtards today.

have I got a thread for you
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