Baldur's Gate 3

[Orvas Dren]

It's the same ******* thing with the drow. They became ultra popular (probably due to the Salvatore books), but as time went on, they became the focus of gay / BDSM fantasies (just google 'drow' and the gay / femdom **** starts)

uh that's not the case for my google...

[rusty_shackleford]

forgotten realms drow, much like the entirety of FR itself, were just greenwood's sexual fetish insert

the main hangup is that TSR Forgotten Realms is not Greenwood's Forgotten Realms, and 5E Forgotten Realms is much closer to Greenwood's.

[UltraFan123]

forgotten realms drow, much like the entirety of FR itself, were just greenwood's sexual fetish insert

That does explain that freaky cuckquean stuff regarding the conception and birth of the Seven Sisters group. I always felt weirded out by that, and Greenwood being a shameless deviant make sense. lol

[rusty_shackleford]

forgotten realms drow, much like the entirety of FR itself, were just greenwood's sexual fetish insert

That does explain that freaky cuckquean stuff regarding the conception and birth of the Seven Sisters group. I always felt weirded out by that, and Greenwood being a shameless deviant make sense. lol

He's the OG Magical Realm guy.

[BLofbr]

i dont know.. but 51% of writers?




And 6 years of development?


What the ****, nobody from the original team was there at all?.. like Emperor got picked 1 year before release date.






https://www.pcgamer.com/games/rpg/we-ca ... go-to-war/

I suppose they wouldnt be allowed to do degenerate **** in Russia?

[BLofbr]

[BLofbr]

3) Wizards of the Coast pushed for a Bhaalspawn story, Larian pushed for Mindflayers. The end result is one in which Bhaal is somehow being linked to Mindflayers in a way that feels rushed and convoluted and results in the system where Mindflayers aren't reall Mindflayers they're just tentacled good guys with no negative Mindflayer traits.


Lol. Who the **** decided the game.. was it woct? or Larian.. i dont see why people defend Larian.

1) Jergel, a god of the dead, follows your camp for the entire playthrough in the guise of Withers. WIther's is there to ensure the defeat of the Dead Three and yet despite the fact you have one of the more powerful gods traveling with you this never amounts to anything for narrative sake.


All this **** sounds baldurs gate, except what larian had in mind.

Sorry for repetable topics.


My last bet Larian updates their game for 1-2 more years, secretly adds the **** like they did to dos 2, or people take the pictchfork.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

3) Wizards of the Coast pushed for a Bhaalspawn story, Larian pushed for Mindflayers. The end result is one in which Bhaal is somehow being linked to Mindflayers in a way that feels rushed and convoluted and results in the system where Mindflayers aren't reall Mindflayers they're just tentacled good guys with no negative Mindflayer traits.


Lol. Who the **** decided the game.. was it woct? or Larian.. i dont see why people defend Larian.

That explains why the story so disjointed, what’s funny is that I like the Bhaalspawn story more as suppose to the very much underutilized mindflayer plot.

1) Jergel, a god of the dead, follows your camp for the entire playthrough in the guise of Withers. WIther's is there to ensure the defeat of the Dead Three and yet despite the fact you have one of the more powerful gods traveling with you this never amounts to anything for narrative sake.

That brings up many questions then especially for the Dark urge character.

My last bet Larian updates their game for 1-2 more years, secretly adds the **** like they did to dos 2, or people take the pictchfork.

Four years later and and a 100 patches larian will keep saying that the next patch will be there last.

[DagothGeas5]

I should really stop reading more into Baldur's Gate 3 until it has been completely overhauled and whatever this is has been ddestroyed from the ground up, it just makes me madder the more I learn.

[Vergil]

I couldn't care less about the main plot. Most RPGs have boring main quests that are just excuses to have a video game.

[SoLong]

3) Wizards of the Coast pushed for a Bhaalspawn story, Larian pushed for Mindflayers. The end result is one in which Bhaal is somehow being linked to Mindflayers in a way that feels rushed and convoluted and results in the system where Mindflayers aren't reall Mindflayers they're just tentacled good guys with no negative Mindflayer traits.


Lol. Who the **** decided the game.. was it woct? or Larian.. i dont see why people defend Larian.

1) Jergel, a god of the dead, follows your camp for the entire playthrough in the guise of Withers. WIther's is there to ensure the defeat of the Dead Three and yet despite the fact you have one of the more powerful gods traveling with you this never amounts to anything for narrative sake.

Gods are very, very limited in what they are allowed to do. The entire reason the Dead Three accepted demotion to quasi-deities is because they wanted to remain in the world and cause chaos. Also, Jergal is being punished for being stupid enough to give his powers to the Dumb Three. It's why he was in the crypt in the first place: Helm (god of justice) crammed him into a coffin and told him to stay put and rot until some generous mortal let him out.

As for said Dumb Three thinking that enslaving an elder brain is a good idea: they once managed to **** the ultimate top god off so much that he banished every single other god and made them all mortal until they learned their lessons. Trust me, idiot plots are very much their deal.

Now if any of that seems surprising to you then that would only be the case because the stupid game doesn't tell you the backstory you need to understand its ******* plot!

[BLofbr]

3) Wizards of the Coast pushed for a Bhaalspawn story, Larian pushed for Mindflayers. The end result is one in which Bhaal is somehow being linked to Mindflayers in a way that feels rushed and convoluted and results in the system where Mindflayers aren't reall Mindflayers they're just tentacled good guys with no negative Mindflayer traits.


Lol. Who the **** decided the game.. was it woct? or Larian.. i dont see why people defend Larian.

1) Jergel, a god of the dead, follows your camp for the entire playthrough in the guise of Withers. WIther's is there to ensure the defeat of the Dead Three and yet despite the fact you have one of the more powerful gods traveling with you this never amounts to anything for narrative sake.

Gods are very, very limited in what they are allowed to do. The entire reason the Dead Three accepted demotion to quasi-deities is because they wanted to remain in the world and cause chaos. Also, Jergal is being punished for being stupid enough to give his powers to the Dumb Three. It's why he was in the crypt in the first place: Helm (god of justice) crammed him into a coffin and told him to stay put and rot until some generous mortal let him out.

As for said Dumb Three thinking that enslaving an elder brain is a good idea: they once managed to **** the ultimate top god off so much that he banished every single other god and made them all mortal until they learned their lessons. Trust me, idiot plots are very much their deal.

Now if any of that seems surprising to you then that would only be the case because the stupid game doesn't tell you the backstory you need to understand its ******* plot!

Game doesnt tell you ****, and Withers him self doesnt talk much about himself and stuff, and you dont find much about him. he just stands in camp and ask if you want a dead ressed and respec.

[SoLong]

3) Wizards of the Coast pushed for a Bhaalspawn story, Larian pushed for Mindflayers. The end result is one in which Bhaal is somehow being linked to Mindflayers in a way that feels rushed and convoluted and results in the system where Mindflayers aren't reall Mindflayers they're just tentacled good guys with no negative Mindflayer traits.


Lol. Who the **** decided the game.. was it woct? or Larian.. i dont see why people defend Larian.

1) Jergel, a god of the dead, follows your camp for the entire playthrough in the guise of Withers. WIther's is there to ensure the defeat of the Dead Three and yet despite the fact you have one of the more powerful gods traveling with you this never amounts to anything for narrative sake.

Gods are very, very limited in what they are allowed to do. The entire reason the Dead Three accepted demotion to quasi-deities is because they wanted to remain in the world and cause chaos. Also, Jergal is being punished for being stupid enough to give his powers to the Dumb Three. It's why he was in the crypt in the first place: Helm (god of justice) crammed him into a coffin and told him to stay put and rot until some generous mortal let him out.

As for said Dumb Three thinking that enslaving an elder brain is a good idea: they once managed to **** the ultimate top god off so much that he banished every single other god and made them all mortal until they learned their lessons. Trust me, idiot plots are very much their deal.

Now if any of that seems surprising to you then that would only be the case because the stupid game doesn't tell you the backstory you need to understand its ******* plot!

Game doesn't tell you ****, and Withers him self doesn't talk much about himself and stuff, and you don't find much about him. he just stands in camp and ask if you want a dead ressed and respec.

To sum up what would happen if Jergal strolled to Baldur's Gate and cleared up the mess for us: Overgod Ao would smite him so hard he'd be retroactively removed from existence before cleaning up the rest of the pantheon (and probably reset the universe or something equally drastic). The last time the Dumb Three ****** up he punished the gods collectively for doing so poor a job and made two things very clear: The latest debacle was the first strike and none of them would make it past strike two.

Actually, chances are the other gods (yes, even the evil ones) are keeping a close eye on Jergal precisely so he doesn't do anything stupid. They'd work together to stop him out of self-preservation if for no other reason.

[TheEmptyRoad]

1) Jergel, a god of the dead, follows your camp for the entire playthrough in the guise of Withers. WIther's is there to ensure the defeat of the Dead Three and yet despite the fact you have one of the more powerful gods traveling with you this never amounts to anything for narrative sake.

That brings up many questions then especially for the Dark urge character.

Withers/Jergal becomes VERY important for a Dark Urge who decides to be a good guy and reject their evil nature.

[Acrux]

forgotten realms drow, much like the entirety of FR itself, were just greenwood's sexual fetish insert

the main hangup is that TSR Forgotten Realms is not Greenwood's Forgotten Realms, and 5E Forgotten Realms is much closer to Greenwood's.

It's a shame that Forgotten Realms took most of the attention from Greyhawk, although there were obviously political reasons for why TSR would do that. But Greyhawk only got one video game that I can recall (TOEE). Mystera got far more. Heck, even Eberron got more! But Greyhawk is more grounded setting of any of the major ones.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

1) Jergel, a god of the dead, follows your camp for the entire playthrough in the guise of Withers. WIther's is there to ensure the defeat of the Dead Three and yet despite the fact you have one of the more powerful gods traveling with you this never amounts to anything for narrative sake.

That brings up many questions then especially for the Dark urge character.

Withers/Jergal becomes VERY important for a Dark Urge who decides to be a good guy and reject their evil nature.

That true. However he doesn’t anything if the Dark Urge

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fully embraces being evil

Although maybe I didn’t see an alternative story path where he did but I doubt it.

[OnTilt]

although there were obviously political reasons for why TSR would do that

Huh? Can you give me a tldr version? I'm rather ignorant about the history of these things

[Acrux]

although there were obviously political reasons for why TSR would do that

Huh? Can you give me a tldr version? I'm rather ignorant about the history of these things

Tldr - Gary was pushed out of TSR in the 80s, there was a lot of bad blood, and they didn't want to pay him royalties.

[fkirenicus]

although there were obviously political reasons for why TSR would do that

Huh? Can you give me a tldr version? I'm rather ignorant about the history of these things

Tldr - Gary was pushed out of TSR in the 80s, there was a lot of bad blood, and they didn't want to pay him royalties.

Which are the main sourcebooks for Greyhawk, do you know? I' ve downloaded quite a few but as far as I am able to tell only the Greyhawk City book and the 1983 boxed set (rather in a non-pdf friendly format) seem "source book material / canon ". Sorry, not able to put this in a better way atm.

[Acrux]

Huh? Can you give me a tldr version? I'm rather ignorant about the history of these things

Tldr - Gary was pushed out of TSR in the 80s, there was a lot of bad blood, and they didn't want to pay him royalties.

Which are the main sourcebooks for Greyhawk, do you know? I' ve downloaded quite a few but as far as I am able to tell only the Greyhawk City book and the 1983 boxed set (rather in a non-pdf friendly format) seem "source book material / canon ". Sorry, not able to put this in a better way atm.

World of Greyhawk/City of Greyhawk sets were the main ones. 3rd edition only got gazetters, I think. The WoG site has a good overview/wiki, too.

https://www.greyhawkonline.com/greyhawk ... ourcebooks

[Vergil]

You guys did watch the prequel movie to BG3 right?

[Xenich]

Lol what a piece of ****.

Are steam ******* really saying Rpghq is full of malware?

Probably, most of the *** patrol will frenzy on anyone who doesn't worship faggotry. Seen people have normal respectful discussions get banned when these morons come swarming in. They levy personal attacks all over the place calling people "bigots, homophobes, racist, Nazi's, etc..." and the person they attack ends up getting banned. I sometimes wonder if those accounts are the mods, or people who know them.

Steam is a clusterfuck concerning it and you can tell the mods clean up and delete posts like crazy (along with reviews).

[Vergil]

Now that I think about it spreading the rumor that the site is full of malware is based as **** and will help filter more hylics away from coming here.

[Xenich]

I couldn't care less about the main plot. Most RPGs have boring main quests that are just excuses to have a video game.

I have to admit, I was never a big guy on story. Just give me a solid game system filled with depth and a long road of obstacles to progress through. Though most of the older cRPGs were nothing more than very simple basic plots, a lot of exploring and fighting. That suits me just fine.

[Vergil]

I couldn't care less about the main plot. Most RPGs have boring main quests that are just excuses to have a video game.

I have to admit, I was never a big guy on story. Just give me a solid game system filled with depth and a long road of obstacles to progress through. Though most of the older cRPGs were nothing more than very simple basic plots, a lot of exploring and fighting. That suits me just fine.

I've been having a lot of fun with the roguelike mod just playing it as a purely combat oriented game with no real story or dialog at all.

[ArcaneLurker]

You guys did watch the prequel movie to BG3 right?

Uncanny


You might like this movie

[Vergil]

You might like this movie

gonna watch all 3 hours in the little rpghq embed window

[Stack of Turtles]

You might like this movie

That's actually good, I watched it as a kid
but I bet Vergil would like the sequel better... well, at least a certain scene, up to a point.

[Finarfin]

You guys did watch the prequel movie to BG3 right?

Uncanny


You might like this movie

Wow, the actress that played Nimue was a beautiful woman. Young Merlin was also quite the handsome man here.

[ArcaneLurker]

You might like this movie

That's actually good, I watched it as a kid
but I bet Vergil would like the sequel better... well, at least a certain scene, up to a point.

Same. I got the DVD free in some kind of newspaper or magazine, and still have it.
I didn't realise there was a sequel though!

Wow, the actress that played Nimue was a beautiful woman. Young Merlin was also quite the handsome man here.

Sure, although it seems like they dubbed her with another woman's voice.