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I've been complaining about the infestation of ******** in the genre for longer than both of us have been on this site. Again, the fact that WotC delights in ******** up the genre doesn't mean it's no longer there.Faceless_Sentinel wrote: β August 16th, 2024, 09:56Is it possible for you to get your head out your *** and see that Ed Greenwood rewrite D&D, not just game rules but also Forgotten Realm lore, in some commiefornia modern day gay **** that it is not a sword and sorcery fantasy written by Gygax anymore?
Your denial of reality doesn't actually change it. You can pretend that they didn't smear **** all over it; that your precious Sword & Sorcercy is still there all pristine and unchanged and that the garbage is somewhere else and therefore someone else's problem.
Until you realize that your dogged refusal to actually do anything effective has rendered the entire genre a museum piece for which nothing new is being made. Or at least nothing new you would want to acknowledge.
Maybe instead you could convince other people to drop their support for this nonsense? Tell me, which of these two arguments do you think they'd find more convincing?
"There should be no combat wheelchairs in DnD because it's immoral and demonic!" OR "There should be no combat wheelchairs in DnD because they make the game objectively worse!"
Hint: The former most accurately reflects your preferred argument.
Do you maybe see now why it's a ******* ******** approach to convincing people? No? I thought not.
Please continue screaming into the void. Maybe if you call the apathetic normies out on **** they don't care about for the hundredth time they will change their minds? Perhaps one day you'll realize that if calling things immoral and demonic actually worked we wouldn't be here and having this conversation.
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So, you agree that you have no standards of quality and for the sake of "development" and "new being made" you agree with bad or inappropriate things being added to genres, thanks for the confirmation.SoLong wrote: β August 16th, 2024, 15:51I've been complaining about the infestation of ******** in the genre for longer than both of us have been on this site. Again, the fact that WotC delights in ******** up the genre doesn't mean it's no longer there.
Your denial of reality doesn't actually change it. You can pretend that they didn't smear **** all over it; that your precious Sword & Sorcercy is still there all pristine and unchanged and that the garbage is somewhere else and therefore someone else's problem.
Until you realize that your dogged refusal to actually do anything effective has rendered the entire genre a museum piece for which nothing new is being made. Or at least nothing new you would want to acknowledge.
I prefer
that is good and well written because it is good and well written rather than "new" of a questionable, or like in most cases, ****** quality.
Let me see, since 2012 your methodology achieved... nothing, everything only becoming worse each time. Good job, keep up the good work, don't forget to pay for every piece of media tho, for the last 12 years it working so good.SoLong wrote: β August 16th, 2024, 15:51Maybe instead you could convince other people to drop their support for this nonsense? Tell me, which of these two arguments do you think they'd find more convincing?
"There should be no combat wheelchairs in DnD because it's immoral and demonic!" OR "There should be no combat wheelchairs in DnD because they make the game objectively worse!"
I rather let or help it die, burn in blue flame, than waste effort and time to speak with someone who's sure I'm wrong beforehand.SoLong wrote: β August 16th, 2024, 15:51Please continue screaming into the void. Maybe if you call the apathetic normies out on **** they don't care about for the hundredth time they will change their minds? Perhaps one day you'll realize that if calling things immoral and demonic actually worked we wouldn't be here and having this conversation.
Holy ****, if removing such things is considered "sanitizing" then I sure as hell am all for the "sanitation" of any setting. I guess this explains that weird open-marriage relationship I saw in the Cormyr novel featuring King Azoun and his swing queen. lolFaceless_Sentinel wrote: β August 16th, 2024, 09:56For the record, by your defenition THIS is part of sword and sorcery fantasy genre: https://web.archive.org/web/20230602100 ... ms_And_Sex
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Welcome to the club.UltraFan123 wrote: β August 16th, 2024, 22:04Holy ****, if removing such things is considered "sanitizing" then I sure as hell am all for the "sanitation" of any setting. I guess this explains that weird open-marriage relationship I saw in the Cormyr novel featuring King Azoun and his swing queen. lolFaceless_Sentinel wrote: β August 16th, 2024, 09:56For the record, by your defenition THIS is part of sword and sorcery fantasy genre: https://web.archive.org/web/20230602100 ... ms_And_Sex
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I can see why prostitution is a thing in a setting like FR... But what the actual **** is that format of providing information??? "And yes...", "...are ********", like I'm reading a Twitter post made by a product of a satanic orgy between Wikipedia, a neurodetergent teen with *** burgers and 4chan moderatorsFaceless_Sentinel wrote: β August 16th, 2024, 09:56So, you telling us that wheelchairs, prosthetic limbs and gender idiology is part of sword and sorcery fantasy genre now because it is in D&D 5?
For the record, by your defenition THIS is part of sword and sorcery fantasy genre: https://web.archive.org/web/20230602100 ... ms_And_Sex
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arisen wrote: β August 17th, 2024, 06:13Faceless_Sentinel wrote: β August 16th, 2024, 09:56So, you telling us that wheelchairs, prosthetic limbs and gender idiology is part of sword and sorcery fantasy genre now because it is in D&D 5?
For the record, by your defenition THIS is part of sword and sorcery fantasy genre: https://web.archive.org/web/20230602100 ... ms_And_Sex
I can see why prostitution is a thing in a setting like FR... But what the actual **** is that format of providing information??? "And yes...", "...are ********", like I'm reading a Twitter post made by a product of a satanic orgy between Wikipedia, a neurodetergent teen with *** burgers and 4chan moderators![]()
And which deities are forcing troonism according to Ed No-Morning-Wood?
Check your tags in this message, looks like you put all your message in a quote block.
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shrug, I actually don't think I'd move any of this as it's directly relevant to the mod itselfRhapsodicHotShot wrote: β August 17th, 2024, 07:32I like how someone told me not to derail the discussion because of dragon age, and this is what I come back to after a few days![]()
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Haha, it's neat to see my simple question about a super buff dude caused a lot of talk. It ultimately is about the fantasy that some might consider old fashioned. The body fat points are pretty fair. I resolved my issue by finding the MS option for a bigger lad. I actually am playing a barbarian and I am perfectly fine with the possibility of the setting having pseudo-magical PED-like plants you can gather in a faraway mountain. Maybe one for half-orcs only would be fair (but not a full orc because it wouldn't make sense for them to actually do the story without beign too savage to cooperate xdd).
Just didn't want all the weird DEI stuff. I would agree that it would be weird to have this for non-barbarians, even fighters would seem out of place with so much muscle and so little bodyfat. /shrug
Just didn't want all the weird DEI stuff. I would agree that it would be weird to have this for non-barbarians, even fighters would seem out of place with so much muscle and so little bodyfat. /shrug
No you loon. Acknowledgement that something is happening is not an endorsement of what is happening. If it were you'd be in favor of flooding Europe with Africans just by being on this website.Faceless_Sentinel wrote: β August 16th, 2024, 16:31So, you agree that you have no standards of quality and for the sake of "development" and "new being made" you agree with bad or inappropriate things being added to genres, thanks for the confirmation.
Your persistent inability to grasp this basic difference is really rather worrying.
This is indeed an objective fact that not everyone online seems to be able to grasp.SoLong wrote: β August 17th, 2024, 10:55Acknowledgement that something is happening is not an endorsement of what is happening.
Like to give another example; the way that even mentioning No Alphabets or similar mods in reddit and some discord channels is responded with backlash, because apparently the simple fact that acknowledging the existence of such a mod is apparently "supporting it". lel
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I understand this, you described your method dealing with "something that happening" and just as I originally judged and mocked physiques, now I judge and mock your method.SoLong wrote: β August 17th, 2024, 10:55Acknowledgement that something is happening is not an endorsement of what is happening.
Reddit is a lost cause due to the way the business is structured. The mods are power-tripping jannies working for free; the only thing they have is power over their own little internet fiefdoms.UltraFan123 wrote: β August 17th, 2024, 15:54This is indeed an objective fact that not everyone online seems to be able to grasp.SoLong wrote: β August 17th, 2024, 10:55Acknowledgement that something is happening is not an endorsement of what is happening.
Like to give another example; the way that even mentioning No Alphabets or similar mods in reddit and some discord channels is responded with backlash, because apparently the simple fact that acknowledging the existence of such a mod is apparently "supporting it". lel
Reddit likes it like that because it's cheap. As last year has shown they can and will push the mods' **** in if they actually threaten the business and they know the mods will cave if it means they get to keep their mod privileges.
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Your last few posts show that to be a transparent lie; own your stupidity at least. Pretending to be ******** stopped being a funny joke when actual ******* started using it as an excuse.Faceless_Sentinel wrote: β August 17th, 2024, 16:01I understand this,SoLong wrote: β August 17th, 2024, 10:55Acknowledgement that something is happening is not an endorsement of what is happening.
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Honestly between denying what you yourself wrote and denying that your "method" of dealing with support for this garbage is nonsense (read: shrieking at normies that it's demonic like you're a mad preacher on a street corner) I'm really getting concerned.
Most people learn eventually that putting your fingers in your ears and going "LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!" doesn't actually make the stuff they're ignoring go away. Usually they grasp this by the time they're 6.
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SoLong wrote: β August 19th, 2024, 07:31Your last few posts show that to be a transparent lie; own your stupidity at least. Pretending to be ******** stopped being a funny joke when actual ******* started using it as an excuse.Faceless_Sentinel wrote: β August 17th, 2024, 16:01I understand this,SoLong wrote: β August 17th, 2024, 10:55Acknowledgement that something is happening is not an endorsement of what is happening.
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Honestly between denying what you yourself wrote and denying that your "method" of dealing with support for this garbage is nonsense (read: shrieking at normies that it's demonic like you're a mad preacher on a street corner) I'm really getting concerned.
Most people learn eventually that putting your fingers in your ears and going "LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!" doesn't actually make the stuff they're ignoring go away. Usually they grasp this by the time they're 6.
Great job ignoring this part. Are you sure that you are not a ****** yourself?
Faceless_Sentinel wrote: β August 16th, 2024, 16:31Let me see, since 2012 your methodology achieved... nothing, everything only becoming worse each time. Good job, keep up the good work, don't forget to pay for every piece of media tho, for the last 12 years it working so good.SoLong wrote: β August 16th, 2024, 15:51Maybe instead you could convince other people to drop their support for this nonsense? Tell me, which of these two arguments do you think they'd find more convincing?
"There should be no combat wheelchairs in DnD because it's immoral and demonic!" OR "There should be no combat wheelchairs in DnD because they make the game objectively worse!"
Made an account here (I didn't know of the site) just to express my sincere gratitude for this undertaking. I'm having a younger friend of mine (he is 18) play BG3 and it is his first RPG game.
I'm so thankful to you for making a mod such as this so I can protect him -as a psychologist- from the insidious plague that the western governments are pushing on us. Really, thank you. I wish I was making enough money to donate even the tiniest amount to you for your efforts and this forum for hosting your mod.
I somehow had no idea about the existence of such a mod until I completely randomly stumbled on a dude on X/Twitter mentioning this and "Better Romances" and how they were banned, while I do not follow any gaming news or discussions. Thank God, really. It's just a salvation to find an oasis of people that actively fight this like I do where each of us can.
Thank you again.
I'm so thankful to you for making a mod such as this so I can protect him -as a psychologist- from the insidious plague that the western governments are pushing on us. Really, thank you. I wish I was making enough money to donate even the tiniest amount to you for your efforts and this forum for hosting your mod.
I somehow had no idea about the existence of such a mod until I completely randomly stumbled on a dude on X/Twitter mentioning this and "Better Romances" and how they were banned, while I do not follow any gaming news or discussions. Thank God, really. It's just a salvation to find an oasis of people that actively fight this like I do where each of us can.
Thank you again.
Quick question: Did anyone hear any news about when they're finally done patching stuff into the game? Since orinEsque's definitive version of the mod depends on the devs finally being done of the game I really hope they'll be done tinkering with it soon.
Also, side note: I've heard that the ****** Wizards of the Coast were apparently a nightmare to work with for Larian, particularly when it became clear that the game would be more popular than anticipated.
That would explain why they've killed any discussion about a possible DLC or sequel or anything like that. Apparently Larian are now focused on finishing whatever they want done with BG3 and some new project.
Probably an original IP to capitalize on their current high profile? I guess if that one doesn't have **** shoved into it we can assume the problem was mostly WotC.
Also, side note: I've heard that the ****** Wizards of the Coast were apparently a nightmare to work with for Larian, particularly when it became clear that the game would be more popular than anticipated.
That would explain why they've killed any discussion about a possible DLC or sequel or anything like that. Apparently Larian are now focused on finishing whatever they want done with BG3 and some new project.
Probably an original IP to capitalize on their current high profile? I guess if that one doesn't have **** shoved into it we can assume the problem was mostly WotC.
And to think bg1 and 2 was suitable for 12 year olds. What has the world come to?Aggelos wrote: β August 23rd, 2024, 05:28Made an account here (I didn't know of the site) just to express my sincere gratitude for this undertaking. I'm having a younger friend of mine (he is 18) play BG3 and it is his first RPG game.
I'm so thankful to you for making a mod such as this so I can protect him -as a psychologist- from the insidious plague that the western governments are pushing on us. Really, thank you. I wish I was making enough money to donate even the tiniest amount to you for your efforts and this forum for hosting your mod.
I somehow had no idea about the existence of such a mod until I completely randomly stumbled on a dude on X/Twitter mentioning this and "Better Romances" and how they were banned, while I do not follow any gaming news or discussions. Thank God, really. It's just a salvation to find an oasis of people that actively fight this like I do where each of us can.
Thank you again.
Welcome! Its great to see the ******** seethe promoting this site even now.
And I'm glad it helped you and you friend
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Pretty sure Larian said the next patch is the last one ( as far as major changes go)SoLong wrote: β August 23rd, 2024, 10:03Quick question: Did anyone hear any news about when they're finally done patching stuff into the game? Since orinEsque's definitive version of the mod depends on the devs finally being done of the game I really hope they'll be done tinkering with it soon.
Also, side note: I've heard that the ****** Wizards of the Coast were apparently a nightmare to work with for Larian, particularly when it became clear that the game would be more popular than anticipated.
That would explain why they've killed any discussion about a possible DLC or sequel or anything like that. Apparently Larian are now focused on finishing whatever they want done with BG3 and some new project.
Probably an original IP to capitalize on their current high profile? I guess if that one doesn't have **** shoved into it we can assume the problem was mostly WotC.
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SoLong wrote: β August 23rd, 2024, 10:03Probably an original IP to capitalize on their current high profile? I guess if that one doesn't have **** shoved into it we can assume the problem was mostly WotC.
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They're going to make another Divinity game, that is their original IP. I'd recommend playing the Divinity games, because they're all pretty good(even Beyond Divinity is alright)SoLong wrote: β August 23rd, 2024, 10:03Probably an original IP to capitalize on their current high profile?
WotC was banking on Larian's already high profile to sell copies, not the other way around, FWIW. WotC/D&D was pretty much dead as far as CRPGs go after nearly two decades of releasing shovelware. Larian just released one of the best selling CRPGs of all time(DOS2)
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If they made the game without borrowing, there's a slight chance they may focus on story instead of lecturing. But they've already hired ****** writers. So i think they're dead inside now.Faceless_Sentinel wrote: β August 23rd, 2024, 10:13SoLong wrote: β August 23rd, 2024, 10:03Probably an original IP to capitalize on their current high profile? I guess if that one doesn't have **** shoved into it we can assume the problem was mostly WotC.![]()
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I think losing their St. Petersburg studio was the nail in the coffin, they had to rapidly expand to replace them.orinEsque wrote: β August 23rd, 2024, 10:20If they made the game without borrowing, there's a slight chance they may focus on story instead of lecturing. But they've already hired ****** writers. So i think they're dead inside now.Faceless_Sentinel wrote: β August 23rd, 2024, 10:13SoLong wrote: β August 23rd, 2024, 10:03Probably an original IP to capitalize on their current high profile? I guess if that one doesn't have **** shoved into it we can assume the problem was mostly WotC.![]()
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It is just strange to me to see this type of self-persuasion from a person, who was reading, finding, posting and discussing how "new" Larian workers are awful degenerates, perverts and they intentionally show how awful they are in Baldur's Gate 3 topic in RPG subforum.orinEsque wrote: β August 23rd, 2024, 10:20If they made the game without borrowing, there's a slight chance they may focus on story instead of lecturing. But they've already hired ****** writers. So i think they're dead inside now.Faceless_Sentinel wrote: β August 23rd, 2024, 10:13SoLong wrote: β August 23rd, 2024, 10:03Probably an original IP to capitalize on their current high profile? I guess if that one doesn't have **** shoved into it we can assume the problem was mostly WotC.![]()
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And what part of my post made you think i was saying anything different?Faceless_Sentinel wrote: β August 23rd, 2024, 10:28It is just strange to me to see this type of self-persuasion from a person, who was reading, finding, posting and discussing how "new" Larian workers are awful degenerates, perverts and they intentionally show how awful they are in Baldur's Gate 3 topic in RPG subforum.orinEsque wrote: β August 23rd, 2024, 10:20If they made the game without borrowing, there's a slight chance they may focus on story instead of lecturing. But they've already hired ****** writers. So i think they're dead inside now.
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Faceless_Sentinel doesn't know how quoting works. He was referring to my post and was too lazy to not include you in the quote.orinEsque wrote: β August 23rd, 2024, 11:40And what part of my post made you think i was saying anything different?Faceless_Sentinel wrote: β August 23rd, 2024, 10:28It is just strange to me to see this type of self-persuasion from a person, who was reading, finding, posting and discussing how "new" Larian workers are awful degenerates, perverts and they intentionally show how awful they are in Baldur's Gate 3 topic in RPG subforum.orinEsque wrote: β August 23rd, 2024, 10:20
If they made the game without borrowing, there's a slight chance they may focus on story instead of lecturing. But they've already hired ****** writers. So i think they're dead inside now.
Hey! @Faceless_Sentinel ! If you don't want to include someone in the conversation you either quote the original post directly, edit the quote (you can delete [quote=orinEsque and the stuff after that), learn how to structure your sentence so it's not a confusing mess or use an @! There are four ways not to **** up, you literally have no excuse.
There's a certain irony to the situation: someone likes to criticize game devs for their abominable writing despite being unable to string together a coherent sentence himself.
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But WotC's profile is bigger than Larian's and they're trying to cultivate their own in-house game division from what I recall. Outsourcing it would make even less sense unless they have internal problem.rusty_shackleford wrote: β August 23rd, 2024, 10:16They're going to make another Divinity game, that is their original IP. I'd recommend playing the Divinity games, because they're all pretty good(even Beyond Divinity is alright)
WotC was banking on Larian's already high profile to sell copies, not the other way around, FWIW. WotC/D&D was pretty much dead as far as CRPGs go after nearly two decades of releasing shovelware. Larian just released one of the best selling CRPGs of all time(DOS2)
(Please let there be internal problems.)
I'm actually not sure if I'd like another Divinity Game. Divinity: Original Sin II resulted into a bad case of writing yourself into a corner, and Divinity: Fallen Heroes which was supposed to be the next game was cancelled.
Original Sin II ended the series pretty conclusively. Considering that the overarching plot for the game was "kill the gods because we found out they're really evil" (I think that's number 3 on the list of stereotypical game plots?) I'd hate to see them make something even less creative. Divinity as a whole is still a franchise I would call good, I really don't want to witness another desecration of classics on the altar of creative bankruptcy for the sake of profit.
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Not at all, DOS2 takes place before Divinity 2.
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