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1 Kingdom Come: Deliverance
2 Cyberpunk 2077
3 The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
4 Mass Effect 2
5 Mass Effect 3

Not easy choices but there it is. Would definitely prefer a larger amount of slots.

I will comment that It's wild how much older everyone's selection seems to be. I started playing RPGs with Oblivion, and have made a concerted effort to try out older games like Fallout 1 and NWN2, but the jank is often times too staggering. The oldest ones I actually liked were the VTM Bloodlines and KOTOR games.
For example I remember trying out NWN and most of the time I would just subconsciously be thinking "Wow, this feels so much like DA:O. I could be playing that right now, it's improved in almost every single way. What am I playing this for?" Not to say NWN was bad, it's not the impression I got from the 2 hours I played around, but it felt pointless to engage in a system that has been improved upon in a newer release.
I had never played something like Bloodlines before, so that swept me off my feet easily. And while KOTOR could be argued to have been the prototype for Mass Effect, right down to the Paragon System, it was still different enough to hook me.

Now I ask you, why do you prefer the older games? Do you feel their particular type of gameplay has not been successfully adapted or improved upon in modern games? Has the writing stayed so impeccable throughout the years that it makes up for the outdated systems? Or have you not ever replayed them and your fond memories carry the game to an eternal place in your heart?
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Valter wrote: July 31st, 2024, 05:56
1 Kingdom Come: Deliverance
2 Cyberpunk 2077
3 The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
4 Mass Effect 2
5 Mass Effect 3

Not easy choices but there it is. Would definitely prefer a larger amount of slots.

I will comment that It's wild how much older everyone's selection seems to be. I started playing RPGs with Oblivion, and have made a concerted effort to try out older games like Fallout 1 and BG2, but the jank is often times too staggering. The oldest ones I actually liked were the VTM Bloodlines and KOTOR games.
For example I remember trying out BG2 and most of the time I would just subconsciously be thinking "Wow, this feels so much like DA:O. I could be playing that right now, it's improved in almost every single way. What am I playing this for?" Not to say BG2 was bad, it's not the impression I got from the 2 hours I played around, but it felt pointless to engage in a system that has been improved upon in a newer release.
I had never played something like Bloodlines before, so that swept me off my feet easily. And while KOTOR could be argued to have been the prototype for Mass Effect, right down to the Paragon System, it was still different enough to hook me.

Now I ask you, why do you prefer the older games? Do you feel their particular type of gameplay has not been successfully adapted or improved upon in modern games? Has the writing stayed so impeccable throughout the years that it makes up for the outdated systems? Or have you not ever replayed them and your fond memories carry the game to an eternal place in your heart?
Why do I prefer older games? It's not infected by ****** libtard propaganda (atleast those that I played) Baldur's Gate 2 for example. Compare it to its sequel. It had great villains, diverse setpieces, a dozen of companions with their own personal Quests and likes and dislikes creating either Fellowship or downright hatred between eachother to the point that companions attacked eachother. And I was always the RTwP person and when I found out that BG3 was turn-based I was angry, it wasn't Baldur's Gate for me, it was just another Divinity Original Sin. If you would start the game without knowing BG you'd think it's the 3rd installment of DOS.
Sure, other games came and tried their hand at being similar but those tend to either be **** on because they don't have a TB mode or are from bigger studios that can afford to do it. ( Look at Pillars 2 and wrath of the righteous, they both have TB AND RTwP, yet games that are TB only never have a RTwP mode because devs say "Uh, our system only supports TB, sorry idiots"
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Valter wrote: July 31st, 2024, 05:56
Now I ask you, why do you prefer the older games? Do you feel their particular type of gameplay has not been successfully adapted or improved upon in modern games?
Pretty much, yeah.
Has the writing stayed so impeccable throughout the years that it makes up for the outdated systems?
Writing?
Or have you not ever replayed them and your fond memories carry the game to an eternal place in your heart?
I mostly only replay older games. Most of the "improvements" in modern games end up stripping away the systems that made those games good. Or use modern, samey UI that frankly isn't great (and UX of a game is make-or-break for me). There are very few recent games that can hold a candle to the games from, oh,let's say 20-25 years ago.
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Finarfin wrote: July 31st, 2024, 06:09
Valter wrote: July 31st, 2024, 05:56
1 Kingdom Come: Deliverance
2 Cyberpunk 2077
3 The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
4 Mass Effect 2
5 Mass Effect 3

Not easy choices but there it is. Would definitely prefer a larger amount of slots.

I will comment that It's wild how much older everyone's selection seems to be. I started playing RPGs with Oblivion, and have made a concerted effort to try out older games like Fallout 1 and BG2, but the jank is often times too staggering. The oldest ones I actually liked were the VTM Bloodlines and KOTOR games.
For example I remember trying out BG2 and most of the time I would just subconsciously be thinking "Wow, this feels so much like DA:O. I could be playing that right now, it's improved in almost every single way. What am I playing this for?" Not to say BG2 was bad, it's not the impression I got from the 2 hours I played around, but it felt pointless to engage in a system that has been improved upon in a newer release.
I had never played something like Bloodlines before, so that swept me off my feet easily. And while KOTOR could be argued to have been the prototype for Mass Effect, right down to the Paragon System, it was still different enough to hook me.

Now I ask you, why do you prefer the older games? Do you feel their particular type of gameplay has not been successfully adapted or improved upon in modern games? Has the writing stayed so impeccable throughout the years that it makes up for the outdated systems? Or have you not ever replayed them and your fond memories carry the game to an eternal place in your heart?
Why do I prefer older games? It's not infected by ****** libtard propaganda (atleast those that I played) Baldur's Gate 2 for example. Compare it to its sequel. It had great villains, diverse setpieces, a dozen of companions with their own personal Quests and likes and dislikes creating either Fellowship or downright hatred between eachother to the point that companions attacked eachother. And I was always the RTwP person and when I found out that BG3 was turn-based I was angry, it wasn't Baldur's Gate for me, it was just another Divinity Original Sin. If you would start the game without knowing BG you'd think it's the 3rd installment of DOS.
Sure, other games came and tried their hand at being similar but those tend to either be **** on because they don't have a TB mode or are from bigger studios that can afford to do it. ( Look at Pillars 2 and wrath of the righteous, they both have TB AND RTwP, yet games that are TB only never have a RTwP mode because devs say "Uh, our system only supports TB, sorry idiots"
RTwP supremacists rise up. Even the Pathfinder devs have discarded it with their latest WH40K game. Woe be upon us, when the only RTwP RPG coming out in the 2020s will be Dragon Age Veilgay.
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I like RTwP, I just don't like hybrid monstrosities such as IE's round-based pseudo-real-time-with-pause.
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Valter wrote: July 31st, 2024, 06:28
Finarfin wrote: July 31st, 2024, 06:09
Valter wrote: July 31st, 2024, 05:56
1 Kingdom Come: Deliverance
2 Cyberpunk 2077
3 The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
4 Mass Effect 2
5 Mass Effect 3

Not easy choices but there it is. Would definitely prefer a larger amount of slots.

I will comment that It's wild how much older everyone's selection seems to be. I started playing RPGs with Oblivion, and have made a concerted effort to try out older games like Fallout 1 and BG2, but the jank is often times too staggering. The oldest ones I actually liked were the VTM Bloodlines and KOTOR games.
For example I remember trying out BG2 and most of the time I would just subconsciously be thinking "Wow, this feels so much like DA:O. I could be playing that right now, it's improved in almost every single way. What am I playing this for?" Not to say BG2 was bad, it's not the impression I got from the 2 hours I played around, but it felt pointless to engage in a system that has been improved upon in a newer release.
I had never played something like Bloodlines before, so that swept me off my feet easily. And while KOTOR could be argued to have been the prototype for Mass Effect, right down to the Paragon System, it was still different enough to hook me.

Now I ask you, why do you prefer the older games? Do you feel their particular type of gameplay has not been successfully adapted or improved upon in modern games? Has the writing stayed so impeccable throughout the years that it makes up for the outdated systems? Or have you not ever replayed them and your fond memories carry the game to an eternal place in your heart?
Why do I prefer older games? It's not infected by ****** libtard propaganda (atleast those that I played) Baldur's Gate 2 for example. Compare it to its sequel. It had great villains, diverse setpieces, a dozen of companions with their own personal Quests and likes and dislikes creating either Fellowship or downright hatred between eachother to the point that companions attacked eachother. And I was always the RTwP person and when I found out that BG3 was turn-based I was angry, it wasn't Baldur's Gate for me, it was just another Divinity Original Sin. If you would start the game without knowing BG you'd think it's the 3rd installment of DOS.
Sure, other games came and tried their hand at being similar but those tend to either be **** on because they don't have a TB mode or are from bigger studios that can afford to do it. ( Look at Pillars 2 and wrath of the righteous, they both have TB AND RTwP, yet games that are TB only never have a RTwP mode because devs say "Uh, our system only supports TB, sorry idiots"
RTwP supremacists rise up. Even the Pathfinder devs have discarded it with their latest WH40K game. Woe be upon us, when the only RTwP RPG coming out in the 2020s will be Dragon Age Veilgay.
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1998 wrote: July 31st, 2024, 06:46
Valter wrote: July 31st, 2024, 06:28
Finarfin wrote: July 31st, 2024, 06:09


Why do I prefer older games? It's not infected by ****** libtard propaganda (atleast those that I played) Baldur's Gate 2 for example. Compare it to its sequel. It had great villains, diverse setpieces, a dozen of companions with their own personal Quests and likes and dislikes creating either Fellowship or downright hatred between eachother to the point that companions attacked eachother. And I was always the RTwP person and when I found out that BG3 was turn-based I was angry, it wasn't Baldur's Gate for me, it was just another Divinity Original Sin. If you would start the game without knowing BG you'd think it's the 3rd installment of DOS.
Sure, other games came and tried their hand at being similar but those tend to either be **** on because they don't have a TB mode or are from bigger studios that can afford to do it. ( Look at Pillars 2 and wrath of the righteous, they both have TB AND RTwP, yet games that are TB only never have a RTwP mode because devs say "Uh, our system only supports TB, sorry idiots"
RTwP supremacists rise up. Even the Pathfinder devs have discarded it with their latest WH40K game. Woe be upon us, when the only RTwP RPG coming out in the 2020s will be Dragon Age Veilgay.
Greedfall 2 (probably)
looking forward to that one. As long as they don't turn it turn-based
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Thought I would have seen a Breath of Fire game on here by now.
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Valter wrote: July 31st, 2024, 05:56
1 Kingdom Come: Deliverance
2 Cyberpunk 2077
3 The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
4 Mass Effect 2
5 Mass Effect 3

Not easy choices but there it is. Would definitely prefer a larger amount of slots.

I will comment that It's wild how much older everyone's selection seems to be. I started playing RPGs with Oblivion, and have made a concerted effort to try out older games like Fallout 1 and NWN2, but the jank is often times too staggering. The oldest ones I actually liked were the VTM Bloodlines and KOTOR games.
For example I remember trying out NWN and most of the time I would just subconsciously be thinking "Wow, this feels so much like DA:O. I could be playing that right now, it's improved in almost every single way. What am I playing this for?" Not to say NWN was bad, it's not the impression I got from the 2 hours I played around, but it felt pointless to engage in a system that has been improved upon in a newer release.
I had never played something like Bloodlines before, so that swept me off my feet easily. And while KOTOR could be argued to have been the prototype for Mass Effect, right down to the Paragon System, it was still different enough to hook me.

Now I ask you, why do you prefer the older games? Do you feel their particular type of gameplay has not been successfully adapted or improved upon in modern games? Has the writing stayed so impeccable throughout the years that it makes up for the outdated systems? Or have you not ever replayed them and your fond memories carry the game to an eternal place in your heart?
NWN is bad. The expansions were decent.
If you think you might have liked Fallout but couldn't get past the controls, try ATOM RPG.
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Surprised that DAO was never in the running at the adventurer's guild if it's really this popular
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1. Starsector
2. Kenshi
3. Fallout New Vegas
4. Monster Hunter Tri
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This might change once I finally play Fear and Hunger Termina though
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Serjo wrote: July 31st, 2024, 11:29
This might change once I finally play Fear and Hunger Termina though
Big fan of the first one?
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Serjo wrote: July 31st, 2024, 11:29
1. Starsector
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3. Fallout New Vegas
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This might change once I finally play Fear and Hunger Termina though
Just a shame that the F&H Dev seems to be influenced by ******** and *******.
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Valter wrote: July 31st, 2024, 05:56
have made a concerted effort to try out older games like Fallout 1 and NWN2, but the jank is often times too staggering
These arent older games and wtf is "jank"
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Element wrote: July 31st, 2024, 11:11
Surprised that DAO was never in the running at the adventurer's guild if it's really this popular
The DAO gang was demoralized after a humiliating close defeat at the hands of Alpha Protocol in the first JAG poll
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I thought Zelda was pushing the boundary of the meaning of RPG, but here we have people unironically listing Monster Hunter games... At least Link can be argued to have some innate development with increased hearts and magic. Monster Hunter stats are literally all derived from your equipment.
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Oyster Sauce wrote: July 31st, 2024, 12:21
Element wrote: July 31st, 2024, 11:11
Surprised that DAO was never in the running at the adventurer's guild if it's really this popular
The DAO gang was demoralized after a humiliating close defeat at the hands of Alpha Protocol in the first JAG poll
Wasn't it the runner-up at some point?
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1998 wrote: July 31st, 2024, 16:05
Oyster Sauce wrote: July 31st, 2024, 12:21
Element wrote: July 31st, 2024, 11:11
Surprised that DAO was never in the running at the adventurer's guild if it's really this popular
The DAO gang was demoralized after a humiliating close defeat at the hands of Alpha Protocol in the first JAG poll
Wasn't it the runner-up at some point?
Yes, hence the close defeat
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WhiteShark wrote: July 31st, 2024, 12:47
I thought Zelda was pushing the boundary of the meaning of RPG, but here we have people unironically listing Monster Hunter games... At least Link can be argued to have some innate development with increased hearts and magic. Monster Hunter stats are literally all derived from your equipment.
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I'm honestly surprised anyone liked Crono Cross enough to put it in their top 5, and that a non OG Pokemon game is on this list.

Also, who the hell liked Mass Effect 3 that much?
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Mass Effect 3 is a superior "RPG" than Mass Effect 2
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BosanskiSeljak wrote: July 31st, 2024, 18:43
Mass Effect 3 is a superior "RPG" than Mass Effect 2
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Valter wrote: July 31st, 2024, 05:56
5 Mass Effect 3
Don't take this the wrong way but are you stupid?
I'm just stating the facts.
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Begun, the RPG war has.
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Vergil wrote: July 31st, 2024, 18:47
Valter wrote: July 31st, 2024, 05:56
5 Mass Effect 3
Don't take this the wrong way but are you stupid?
I'll let you know after I replay it.
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No idea why ME2 is so loved, it's easily the worst of the trilogy.
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One person put ME2 bottom of their list and one person put it fourth. It's just in joint 21st place with many other games.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: July 31st, 2024, 19:48
No idea why ME2 is so loved, it's easily the worst of the trilogy.
It's funny, quirky, symmetrical storyline loop, acceptable OST, the Tali missions are cool, Zaeed is a cool character, but best of all you could doctor the outcome so only humans live at the end.

It's just sad that the title had nothing to do with the original idea and it is basically superfluous as a title between 1 and 3. LOL
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