Dragon Age™: The Veilguard is a Return To Form

[Xenich]

I wish I believed that there were secret societies full of intelligent people machinating all of this instead of realizing it's actually just midwit chaos.

I am beginning to think it is a mix of both. Some high power players (who are also inept) trying to shape things to their desire and a crap ton of useless idiot idealists just screwing everything up with their blind devotion to idiocy. Also, a vast amount of sell-out whores who will go with whatever is paying them.

It's power players for sure but just as @aweigh said this is a religion like puritanism. There are many true believers out there in places like reddit where they actually believe this stuff and anyone who doesn't believe is the devil.

That makes sense. I tend to get this feeling from those I have interacted with that think like this. There is no logic, no reason, just a mantra of devotion to narrative one liners and the like and when you question them in an honest manner that puts their thinking to the test, they lash out violently in defense.

[Fuze]

It's interesting that Dragon Age didn't look gay as hell until after Gayder left.

Is it official artwork ? This look like some render for some obscure python porn game.

[Xenich]

I can't wait for the next game crash.

I'm sure a multi-billionaire dollar industry will be allowed to go belly up and not be artificially propped up like Hollywood and other tent pole pillars of society =D

It happened in the past with consoles at various times. There comes a point where people lose interest due to the games being redundant and superficial. Mainstream is fickle, while you can manipulate them, they get bored and lose interest if they aren't entertained and "graphical" wow factor is waning as there is only so much you can do at this stage (they tried VR, but it always seems to flop). Not to mention, I even see people who are excited about DA:V admitting the graphics are not as advanced as they had hoped. Maybe that is why all the games are pushing for porn play in hopes of keeping them addicted to the games?

Though that audience is not as large as they advertise and I think most of the gamers out there are straight white males who will eventually move on to other things. When that money dries up, reality will set in as the studios start to lose lots of money (already happening) and will move to other things as well (maybe mobile gambling games to chase the women?)

It won't be a complete crash I think, but I do think a lot of the studios will be shut down with only a very minimal presence, a dry spell may occur and in this void there "may" be some people who try to focus on making a quality game without all the garbage. Considering AI's ability to help in this area, it is possible a competent person (or small group) can then leverage those tools to make something of note. I do think a crash is coming, but it may not be as "dramatic" as some think, but... enough to "maybe" provide some relief to players who actually want a game rather than a political jerk off simulator for the inept.

[Falksi]

I have to ask, after watching both trailers, who is this game made for? It isn't made for fans of Dragon Age. It isn't made for women as all the male characters are aesthetically unappealing that none of the women who play these games for the romances are going to romance any of them. It isn't made for cRPG fans as the gameplay is ***. It isn't made for fans of the fantasy genre. It seems like the only audience for this game is Reddit. As some guy posted on Asmongold video on the gameplay trailer stated; "Colorful, safe, sanitized, sparkly, incongruous millennial dialogue, nonstop sassy NPC quips and commentary, jarringly diverse, excessively flashy superhero movement, kid-friendly MMO art direction... Redditors should love it."

All the Dragon Age superfans seem to love it though. Writing feels the same as DAII and DAI. The tumblrfied audience grew older, but they didn't go away entirely.

Words cannot express how meaningful it is to see black and Asian elves - in important main roles, no less - be represented in fantasy media.

Historically, the genre has coded elves + elven beauty very narrowly. And it's SO wonderful to see that spectrum grow more inclusive

I remember this broad from the BSN. I recall her being somewhat more normal over a decade ago.

***** got what she wanted....and is STILL ******* angry ....



Someone please put these ***** down.

[gerey]

Imagine how happy they'll be when the game flops and EA finally kills BioWare.

Also, these people are pathetic - they don't care about the story, the gameplay, lore, characters, all they care about is being "represented", because having a ****** elf magically makes the game so much better.

[DagothGeas5]

Speaking of og Dragon Age, I believe that whatever happened to the game's writing happened with the Leliana DLC and the Awakening DLC or somewhere in between, if not shortly after.
I recall playing Awakening and feeling it was off from the start as it had the typical "humor", made fun of the joining (giving it no weight), there was a girl boss elf that ****-talks you and more of this. There were some whispers of the original, but it all felt cheap and left there to bait people more than it being part of the narrative. The original also had new content added where there were female wardens with weak men and all the rest of it that I recall, and though I cannot say I recall those quests specifically to have left a bad taste, I recall there were new items and such things that had "humor" and flavor text that stuck out like a sore thumb in writing style. I wonder if any of these "og" ever even played Origins past the intro or Redcliffe, I imagine they just played Awakening for Anders and called it a day. Fun trivia about him: Anders was also an entirely different person and made gay in Dragon Age II. He comments on the tits of Andraste or something along those lines in Awakening, is overall self-serving and is dubbed by Cullen's same voice actor, also quite powerful with the use of fire, he also joked on a man's death by burning that I recall, on the first time meeting him. He is also much more weasely from how I recall him. In Dragon Age II they reference how he changed that I recall, where he became a soft medic and mage rebel that "wants to make the world a better place for every mage, **** the oppressors!", saying the change is because of Justice's mind overtaking his and other such things, but he feels completely emasculated and weak compared to how I recalled him. The Anders I recall would banter with the likes of Astarion, keep people at arm's length and probably stab everyone in the back to save his own skin.

[rusty_shackleford]

Imagine how happy they'll be when the game flops and EA finally kills BioWare.

Also, these people are pathetic - they don't care about the story, the gameplay, lore, characters, all they care about is being "represented", because having a ****** elf magically makes the game so much better.

You mean to tell me that these people are actually narcissists that just care about themselves?
Wow. I didn't know that. You're telling me for the first time.

[1998]

Imagine how happy they'll be when the game flops and EA finally kills BioWare.

Also, these people are pathetic - they don't care about the story, the gameplay, lore, characters, all they care about is being "represented", because having a ****** elf magically makes the game so much better.

To be fair, if I would be better represented and all those *******, **** and ****** would be replaced by straight white men, it would be indeed automatically a way better game.

[WhiteShark]

Imagine how happy they'll be when the game flops and EA finally kills BioWare.

Also, these people are pathetic - they don't care about the story, the gameplay, lore, characters, all they care about is being "represented", because having a ****** elf magically makes the game so much better.

To be fair, if I would be better represented and all those *******, **** and ****** would be replaced by straight white men, it would be indeed automatically a way better game.

Yes, but in that case, being represented were entirely incidental.

Anyway, I've only known one black very well, but I knew him for a long time and from a young age, and I don't recall his ever complaining about the lack of """representation""" in Full Metal Alchemist, Naruto, or any other media. It's just another excuse to attack the """oppressors""", which invariably means whites and sometimes also means yellows.

[LeAmphibian]

[Vergil]

as much as people complain about greediness in video games, profits actually aren't that high

I know, it's not genuinely profitable but it's propped up by typical financial jewry and ESG money. The idea that the industry will totally collapse and suddenly based zased chuds will be back on top is a fantasy.

So why do they keep firing employees then?

Feel like you're. It getting what I'm saying at all.

[Shillitron]

Many such cases.

[Breathe]

I wonder what percentage of gamers are black. All this ****** pandering is a combo of virtue signaling and trying to get the black population more into games. A failing strategy for sure. ******* only play madden and nba 2k.

[1998]

I wonder what percentage of gamers are black. All this ****** pandering is a combo of virtue signaling and trying to get the black population more into games. A failing strategy for sure. ******* only play madden and nba 2k.

Of adults who play video games, 72% are White, 10% are Hispanic, 8% are Black, 6% are Asian/Pacific Islander and 4% identified as ‘other’.

https://www.theesa.com/video-games-rema ... regularly/

[Breathe]

I wonder what percentage of gamers are black. All this ****** pandering is a combo of virtue signaling and trying to get the black population more into games. A failing strategy for sure. ******* only play madden and nba 2k.

Of adults who play video games, 72% are White, 10% are Hispanic, 8% are Black, 6% are Asian/Pacific Islander and 4% identified as ‘other’.

https://www.theesa.com/video-games-rema ... regularly/

6% asian? That's gotta be wrong.

edit: well after a quick search it seems asians are only about 7-8% of the pop so I guess that's probably correct.

[1998]

I wonder what percentage of gamers are black. All this ****** pandering is a combo of virtue signaling and trying to get the black population more into games. A failing strategy for sure. ******* only play madden and nba 2k.

Of adults who play video games, 72% are White, 10% are Hispanic, 8% are Black, 6% are Asian/Pacific Islander and 4% identified as ‘other’.

https://www.theesa.com/video-games-rema ... regularly/

6% asian? That's gotta be wrong.

edit: well after a quick search it seems asians are only about 7-8% of the pop so I guess that's probably correct.

Yeah easy to forgot how the actual demographics looks like with all that woke rainbow propaganda

[rusty_shackleford]

I wonder what percentage of gamers are black. All this ****** pandering is a combo of virtue signaling and trying to get the black population more into games. A failing strategy for sure. ******* only play madden and nba 2k.

Of adults who play video games, 72% are White, 10% are Hispanic, 8% are Black, 6% are Asian/Pacific Islander and 4% identified as ‘other’.

https://www.theesa.com/video-games-rema ... regularly/

I wonder what percentage of gamers are black. All this ****** pandering is a combo of virtue signaling and trying to get the black population more into games. A failing strategy for sure. ******* only play madden and nba 2k.

Of adults who play video games, 72% are White, 10% are Hispanic, 8% are Black, 6% are Asian/Pacific Islander and 4% identified as ‘other’.

https://www.theesa.com/video-games-rema ... regularly/

6% asian? That's gotta be wrong.

edit: well after a quick search it seems asians are only about 7-8% of the pop so I guess that's probably correct.

This is also the overall 'gamer' demographic which includes mobile games, call of duty, sports games, etc., There is no such thing as a singular gamer demographic, but unless you're making one of those games it's also going to be skewed significantly more male/white/asian.

[Rand]

God, I hate ****** elves and ****** dwarves. They are fantasy races; they are not supposed to look like subhuman ****** trash, especially elves. They're supposed to be these otherworldly angel-like beings, not some ******* gibsmedat-fentanyl-ridden fatlip.

Yeah, they've already got 100% of the orcs, ogres, and trolls. It's not fair.

[Rand]

There are many true believers out there in places like reddit where they actually believe this stuff and anyone who doesn't believe is the devil.

Cool. I'll be happy to be their devil and torture them for their sins.

[Rand]

I wonder what percentage of gamers are black. All this ****** pandering is a combo of virtue signaling and trying to get the black population more into games. A failing strategy for sure. ******* only play madden and nba 2k.

Of adults who play video games, 72% are White, 10% are Hispanic, 8% are Black, 6% are Asian/Pacific Islander and 4% identified as ‘other’.

https://www.theesa.com/video-games-rema ... regularly/

LIES!
The math doesn't add up.

less than 12% maximum. The demographic of the United States; the most infested country in the west.
Then, given that most gamers are male, we're down to 6% max.
Then, given that many blacks aren't the right age, cut that in half to 3% max.
Then factor in their general retardation for sports and getting high and I would cut it by two-thirds...

One percent. Maybe as much as two percent, including the occasional female, casual gamers, and the halfbreeds.

As for "asians" Orientals:

edit: well after a quick search it seems asians are only about 7-8% of the pop so I guess that's probably correct.

So somewhere about 85% of ALL of them, male and female, young and elderly...
Sure. I'll buy that.

Never trust these racial poll things. They're all lies.

[rusty_shackleford]

I wonder what percentage of gamers are black. All this ****** pandering is a combo of virtue signaling and trying to get the black population more into games. A failing strategy for sure. ******* only play madden and nba 2k.

Of adults who play video games, 72% are White, 10% are Hispanic, 8% are Black, 6% are Asian/Pacific Islander and 4% identified as ‘other’.

https://www.theesa.com/video-games-rema ... regularly/

LIES!
The math doesn't add up.

less than 12% maximum. The demographic of the United States; the most infested country in the west.
Then, given that most gamers are male, we're down to 6% max.
Then, given that many blacks aren't the right age, cut that in half to 3% max.
Then factor in their general retardation for sports and getting high and I would cut it by two-thirds...

One percent. Maybe as much as two percent, including the occasional female, casual gamers, and the halfbreeds.

It includes mobile.

[Rand]

It includes mobile.

**** mobile.
Doesn't count.

[RangerBoo]

All the Dragon Age superfans seem to love it though

All 20 of them.

I am curious to see what the player count for this game will be on release. I remember when tweets about the Suicide Squad game attacking white gamers and praising the game for the diversity slop in the game were getting 10-20k likes and what not. However, as we all know, those likes did not translate to a high player count. Proving once again that the dead internet theory is true and that many of these tweets praising the game that are getting a massive amount of likes are being propped up by bots. I will be shocked if this game has over 20k players on launch.

[The_Mask]

I will be shocked if this game has over 20k players on launch.

Sometimes brand recognition and nostalgia are enough to get some initial players going. This core demographic of players is something that indie developers try so very hard to accumulate, but entities like BioWare poop all over.

And so one can expect that the initial player count will be quite reasonable. The main focus is the subsequent player drop, I would think. I would be a lot more curious of the numbers on the second week after release.

Those numbers should be quite amusing, I imagine.

[OnTilt]

******* only play madden and nba 2k.

There's quite a lot in the FGC too.

[Element]

Speaking of og Dragon Age, I believe that whatever happened to the game's writing happened with the Leliana DLC and the Awakening DLC or somewhere in between, if not shortly after.
I recall playing Awakening and feeling it was off from the start as it had the typical "humor", made fun of the joining (giving it no weight),

Agree with most of this, but you did lose a follower in the joining in Awakening as well.

[Brother Chad]

If only bots could buy games, this would make a ton of money.

But the technology's not there yet.

[Norfleet]

If only bots could buy games, this would make a ton of money.

Bots have been playing games for a long time, but most developers seek to exclude them rather than market to them.

[logincrash]

Agree with most of this, but you did lose a follower in the joining in Awakening as well.

I think he's referring to the fact that Oghren is burping and Anders is cracking jokes while Mhairi is just dead on the floor. While both are in character, it's no "Duncan skewering Jory for not wanting to drink radioactive mix of lyrium and Darkspawn ****, blood, and cum" levels of grimdark.

[DDC]

So uh...am I crazy or is this one of the few edge cases where trannification was an improvement? Let's put it this way...put these two freaks on tinder and the guy version gets way fewer swipes from women than the "girl" version does from men.