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Video games are garbage

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Video games have never been anything more than a device to extract money from parents to their kids. From the days of arcade to the times of PC upgrade race the video game industry was simply a big racket on parents to buy products of shit artistic value for their dumb kids.

Look at yourselves, constantly browsing steam sales and playing all the garbage there from start to finish the whole day, you are nothing but addicts. Except instead of doing coke you sit in from of your computer all day, paying money for pixels and wasting your time.

Also why are video games popular? Because video games are easy. Try being a hitman or a mercenary in real life, you will fail because it's very hard. Meanwhile it's easy in a video game. Video games give you a false sense of accomplishment when in real life you're a total and complete loser.

Uninstall that trash and go do something with your life.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: July 22nd, 2023, 10:40
I like video games.
I guess this isn't entirely fair to OP and I should elaborate.

Humans require leisure activities and entertainment. It has been something we've done since before recorded history, and one of the first things we wrote down when we learned to write — as seen in the Epic of Gilgamesh. Dice are thousands of years old.
Neither is play as a form of entertainment confined to our species, it's an activity shared by, to the best of my knowledge, all or nearly all mammals. Your dog loves for you to throw sticks so he can fetch them, it's an enjoyable activity.

If I was forced to work and not engage in any leisure activities I would have a mental breakdown from the stress. I need entertainment as much as I need food, water, and shelter. Video games are absolutely not a waste of time.
If you are addicted to video games, then you have a problem that needs help. This is especially common in online games or gacha-style games. But that's a completely different matter.

I like video games.
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I like the combination of good aesthetics, and music, voice acting, being able to walk around and view a fantasy world from different angles, and the interactive aspects of talking to NPCs or solving puzzles or the combat. That's an experience that no other medium can provide.
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Video games are only decades of old compared to millenia for other media and as such have shit anesthetics. Read a book or watch a movie instead.
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revenant wrote: July 22nd, 2023, 11:52
Video games are only decades of old compared to millenia for other media and as such have shit anesthetics. Read a book or watch a movie instead.
Movies are only 130 years old roughly, so you should be saying go to the theater to watch a play. ;)
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revenant wrote: July 22nd, 2023, 11:52
Video games are only decades of old compared to millenia for other media and as such have shit anesthetics. Read a book or watch a movie instead.
Of all the arguments you could have chosen to assert the superiority of other media, this was nearly the worst one. Many video games have unique aesthetics that cannot be found in books nor movies, and to say they are universally 'shit' is either contrarianism or ignorant elitism.
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revenant wrote: July 22nd, 2023, 10:39
Try being a hitman or a mercenary in real life, you will fail because it's very hard.
so that's who was the fabled lithuanian hitman.
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Post by revenant »

It is the gigachad opinion

Look at any other visual form of art, all of them have better aesthetics than video games. Video games look like shit by comparison
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revenant wrote: July 22nd, 2023, 12:05
It is the gigachad opinion

Look at any other visual form of art, all of them have better aesthetics than video games. Video games look like shit by comparison
Prerendered isometric CRPGs were peak fantasy environmental art.
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I thought video games were about the gameplay?
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I've liked video games even since I knew what they were. Entranced by their lure before I could even read. Nothing soothed my tism more than watching my brother play Ultima 3 and 4 on the C64 until he got fed up and punched me to make me leave. Such good memories.
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They're essentially digital toys for children. Grow up guys.
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Sweeper wrote: July 22nd, 2023, 12:38
They're essentially digital toys for children. Grow up guys.
Grow up and do grown up things like spend your entire life working 100 hours a week to support a woman who is fucking a guy that plays video games. :smug:
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WhiteShark wrote: July 22nd, 2023, 12:02
revenant wrote: July 22nd, 2023, 11:52
Video games are only decades of old compared to millenia for other media and as such have shit anesthetics. Read a book or watch a movie instead.
Of all the arguments you could have chosen to assert the superiority of other media, this was nearly the worst one. Many video games have unique aesthetics that cannot be found in books nor movies, and to say they are universally 'shit' is either contrarianism or ignorant elitism.
The argument is essentially true, however the why of it is wrong. Video games aren't inferior because they haven't had time to develop (they probably developed faster than any other medium in existence, by comparison), they're inferior because they're fundamentally not as good as actual artforms.
I've played a lot of games, and I've never played one that made me feel spiritually uplifted, unlike film, music or literature. They're fucking board games. And yes, board games can be extremely fun, but ultimately it's always a shallow experience.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: July 22nd, 2023, 12:39
Sweeper wrote: July 22nd, 2023, 12:38
They're essentially digital toys for children. Grow up guys.
Grow up and do grown up things like spend your entire life working 100 hours a week to support a woman who is fucking a guy that plays video games. :smug:
I mean, if that's what you're into. I dislike women.
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OP isn't wrong. Compared to other sources of entertainment or entertainment media, vidya fall short in many aspects.

When it comes to stories, video games lag behind by about 1000 years. Every video game story that's praised as the best shit ever cannot compare to actual works of literature or movies (with the exception of PST, which I think is a genuinely good story on par with some novels, big tiddy rat gf notwithstanding).

Regarding entertainment value, video games pale in comparison to traditional board games. A board game can be played for all eternity. A video game is beaten once and then maybe replayed once or twice. Even if you put say 800 hours in a game, most board games offer a lifetime of entertainment. Not to mention that many games are rendered obsolete by sequels or no longer run on available hardware.

Single player video games also lack the social interaction of most board games. Comparatively few board games are meant to be played alone, whereas a much greater number of video games are solo affairs much like jacking off. Next to playing video games, I'm also into 40k and as a hobby it is much more fulfilling than video games by a mile.

When it comes down to it, crpgs are very poor substitues to actual pnp roleplaying sessions. A video game is rigid and restricted by code, a GM however can do whatever he wants and so can the player. Not even the best crpgs even comes close to the openness and freedom of choice of irl roleplaying games.

The video game industry is also insanely commercialised, more so than any other medium. If you go see a movie, you pay for the ticket and there you go. If you buy a book, it's yours forever. Neither movies nor books have DLC or new versions coming out every other month. Movies may get remade but not at the pace that video games are. Books don't get remakes at all.

Video games only stand out in accessibility and because it gives very easy dopamine hits by "number go up", which is why they're so popular. The arcades drilled directly into children's dopamine receptors by implementing high scores and leaderboards, making generations of kids into dopamine addicts and future transsexuals.

tl;dr in comparison to other hobbies, video games are arguably shit, still fun in their own way but vastly inferior in many aspects.
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books are linear and linear is boring unless you're a child, not sorry
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genuinely can't fathom how people think a medium where all you do is passively read or watch is superior to a medium where you partaking in it is a foundational aspect of the medium

feels like some weird attempt to try to seem sophisticated
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Books are mostly trash, and frankly the printing press was the worst joke the devil ever played on us. Movies died with the Jazz Singer. Music has been trash since Orpheus wept. Viddy gayms never had a chance.
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Sweeper wrote: July 22nd, 2023, 12:42
WhiteShark wrote: July 22nd, 2023, 12:02
revenant wrote: July 22nd, 2023, 11:52
Video games are only decades of old compared to millenia for other media and as such have shit anesthetics. Read a book or watch a movie instead.
Of all the arguments you could have chosen to assert the superiority of other media, this was nearly the worst one. Many video games have unique aesthetics that cannot be found in books nor movies, and to say they are universally 'shit' is either contrarianism or ignorant elitism.
The argument is essentially true, however the why of it is wrong. Video games aren't inferior because they haven't had time to develop (they probably developed faster than any other medium in existence, by comparison), they're inferior because they're fundamentally not as good as actual artforms.
I've played a lot of games, and I've never played one that made me feel spiritually uplifted, unlike film, music or literature. They're fucking board games. And yes, board games can be extremely fun, but ultimately it's always a shallow experience.
This sounds like a personal problem. Stop letting the kikes into your brain with movies.
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WhiteShark wrote: July 22nd, 2023, 12:02
This sounds like a personal problem. Stop letting the kikes into your brain with movies.
I refuse to do so.
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Humbaba wrote: July 22nd, 2023, 12:51
Regarding entertainment value, video games pale in comparison to traditional board games. A board game can be played for all eternity. A video game is beaten once and then maybe replayed once or twice. Even if you put say 800 hours in a game, most board games offer a lifetime of entertainment. Not to mention that many games are rendered obsolete by sequels or no longer run on available hardware.
You're giving board games too much credit here. Most do not have the depth to 'offer a lifeteime of entertainment'; if they seem so, it is only because you don't play them nearly as frequently as you would a video game. Moreover, multiplayer video games, which are that to which multiplayer board games ought be compared, can have incredible longevity. Some people still play Quake and StarCraft, for example. Emulators generally make hardware a non-issue.
Humbaba wrote: July 22nd, 2023, 12:51
Single player video games also lack the social interaction of most board games. Comparatively few board games are meant to be played alone, whereas a much greater number of video games are solo affairs much like jacking off. Next to playing video games, I'm also into 40k and as a hobby it is much more fulfilling than video games by a mile.
I don't think being social is an automatic plus. Most of my favorite activities are inherently solo affairs—surely you won't tell me books are flawed because one reads them alone?—and many are the social activities that leave me feeling emptier afterwards than I did before.
Humbaba wrote: July 22nd, 2023, 12:51
Books don't get remakes at all.
Some get patches, though. :smile:
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Sweeper wrote: July 22nd, 2023, 13:07
WhiteShark wrote: July 22nd, 2023, 12:02
This sounds like a personal problem. Stop letting the kikes into your brain with movies.
I refuse to do so.
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kys the Criterion jew has hijacked your limbic system.
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maidenhaver wrote: July 22nd, 2023, 13:11
Sweeper wrote: July 22nd, 2023, 13:07
WhiteShark wrote: July 22nd, 2023, 12:02
This sounds like a personal problem. Stop letting the kikes into your brain with movies.
I refuse to do so.
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kys the Criterion jew has hijacked your limbic system.
>implying I don't pirate everything
I just really like the posters.
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WhiteShark wrote: July 22nd, 2023, 13:09
Moreover, multiplayer video games, which are that to which multiplayer board games ought be compared, can have incredible longevity. Some people still play Quake and StarCraft, for example.
Incredibly niche. You can play snakes and ladders with everybody at a moment's notice, can't do that with starcraft.
WhiteShark wrote: July 22nd, 2023, 13:09
I don't think being social is an automatic plus.
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WhiteShark wrote: July 22nd, 2023, 13:09
surely you won't tell me books are flawed because one reads them alone?
You can read a book to someone. Someone can watch you play a game but that doesn't have the same effect.
WhiteShark wrote: July 22nd, 2023, 13:09
Some get patches, though. :smile:
The publisher must be an avid gamer.
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WhiteShark wrote: July 22nd, 2023, 13:09
I don't think being social is an automatic plus. Most of my favorite activities are inherently solo affairs—surely you won't tell me books are flawed because one reads them alone?—and many are the social activities that leave me feeling emptier afterwards than I did before.
Just drink beer dude. There's like a 50/50 chance you'll not only end up not being socially retarded, but you'll actually enjoy the experience. The other half of the time you'll just sink into a deep melancholy.
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Humbaba wrote: July 22nd, 2023, 13:15
You can read a book to someone. Someone can watch you play a game but that doesn't have the same effect.
Disagree, I loved watching my brother play games as a kid. Women also enjoy watching men play because they suck at games.
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