Why is speedrunning so troony?

[Rand]

So many are ****** or clearly on the ***** path, it's more than just a meme.

What The **** is the correlation?

[Oyster Sauce]

Speedrunning mainly attracts autistic people, they just love hyper-fixating on menial ****. About 40% of ****** are autistic. Speedrunners often join Discord communities to talk to each other. ****** by nature will attempt to convert others, which is especially easy when your targets are young autistic people in a small chatroom.

[Vergil]

I think its a perfect storm of autism, hyper focus on fantasy/escapism, and a community of hug boxers.

[Tweed]

[Humbaba]

Autism.



-Humbaba

[Segata]

They love glitching, whether in games or real life.

[gerey]

They also love finding ways to get to the end as fast as possible.

[Slavic Sorcerer]

From my research on, observations, and experiences around ****** I can deduce:

- a lot of troonies, either legit ones or *****-trenders, are on a spectrum and speedrunning is autizmo thing
- it's better alternative than working 9-5 being (90% time rightfully) misgendered
- possibility of free PR from a marginalized person of gender for the studio (again, possibly)
- gaming community this...murky*...grants protection from potential attacks
- assuming the worst, gaming communities - speedrunning being one of them - can be a hunting ground should the looney-trooney in question have a taste for young blood
- speedrunning requires skill and is niche in nature. Vast majority of gamers do not speedrun. It's easier to make a name for oneself by speedrunning Mario Shitstain Castle of Farts in 3h than to stream Elden Ring like 82378176 other streamers

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*by "murky" I mean a community that welcomes people of all walks of life and is very general in nature

Furry, gaming, hobbies not labeled political, artistic communities, mainstream fandoms are like that.
You can meet people from every corner of the political compass, because the nature of the thing can be appealing to everyone

Hobbies generally labelled political (e.g. gun and history for right wingers, drag and beauty communities for left wingers), specific fandoms like WH40k (right), Steven Universe (left) attract specific groups of people
Depending on the fandom, most of the members will skew either left or right due to the nature of the thing

There is also an obvious joke to be made, but others are more capable of doing so than me since I'm "meaning of this flower doesnt fit the character" autist instead of "maths, patterns, and inteligence" autist

[asf]

speedrunning is dictionary definition of autism

[Breathe]

I don't think I've ever seen a black speedrunner lol

[Lutte]

I don't think I've ever seen a black speedrunner lol

Autism has been stamped out of the ****** gene pool. If you're autistic in africa you are someone else's meal.

[Sweeper]

You mean why an activity that only the smelliest of autists find appealing also has a disproportionate number of ******?
It's the greatest mystery in the history of mankind.

[Decline]

I don't think I've ever seen a black speedrunner lol

Autism has been stamped out of the ****** gene pool. If you're autistic in africa you are someone else's meal.

Autism is a function of librul helicopter parents bringing their little sperg to the doctor every time he throws a fit instead of solving it in the traditional way. Librul helicopter parenting and a tight network of profit oriented quacks that will diagnose everything under the sun for a quick buck only exist in the west.

The lack of Autism in Africa therefore is not a lack of incidence but of infrastructure (or lack thereof).

[rusty_shackleford]

I don't think I've ever seen a black speedrunner lol

Autism has been stamped out of the ****** gene pool. If you're autistic in africa you are someone else's meal.

Autism is a function of librul helicopter parents bringing their little sperg to the doctor every time he throws a fit instead of solving it in the traditional way. Librul helicopter parenting and a tight network of profit oriented quacks that will diagnose everything under the sun for a quick buck only exist in the west.

The lack of Autism in Africa therefore is not a lack of incidence but of infrastructure (or lack thereof).

I can tell you've never encountered an actual autistic person

[Decline]

I can tell you've never encountered an actual autistic person

No I don't. I try to avoid interaction with degenerates (excepting Internet Bulletin Boards).

My point still stands though: Would there be an ample network of quacks in combination with librul parenting in Africa we would see Autism numbers comparable to the west there.

[maidenhaver]

I thought we were the autists...

[Lutte]

I can tell you've never encountered an actual autistic person

No I don't. I try to avoid interaction with degenerates (excepting Internet Bulletin Boards).

My point still stands though: Would there be an ample network of quacks in combination with librul parenting in Africa we would see Autism numbers comparable to the west there.

You almost understood the Truth, but from the wrong angle.

While ******* are low iq, they are functional enough as living beings. Real autists aren't functional and there is indeed no helicopter parent that would be willing to take care of an autist growing into adulthood but not growing into self sufficiency, there is no corporate environment that is highly tolerant towards the malfunctioning and there is no nanny state to give gibs to the autistic adult either. So autism has definitely been stamped out, but not because the autist has grown into a non-autist from the lack of over-protective parents, but because he died starving or got killed for being repulsive.

Sub-saharan Africa is a place that highly select for certain human traits and against other traits. 42% of the population is children under 15 years old.

Age distribution of the population of Sub-Saharan Africa 2010-2021. In 2021, around 55 percent of the total population of Sub-Saharan Africa was aged 15 to 64 years. Moreover, children younger than 15 years constituted a large 42 percent of the inhabitants

They "mature" quicker and must exhibit some form of self sufficiency sooner. Those who don't will die.

Real autism, not the self diagnosed, woe is me internet autism or the insult randomly thrown at people who behave in a degenerate way, is highly heritable :

In a reanalysis of a previous study of the familial risk of ASD, the heritability was estimated to be 83%, suggesting that genetic factors may explain most of the risk for ASD. This estimate is slightly lower than the approximately 90% estimate reported in earlier twin studies1 and higher than the 38% (95% CI, 14%-67%) estimate reported in a California twin study,4 but was estimated with higher precision. Like earlier twin studies, shared environmental factors contributed minimally to the risk of ASD.

It is definitely not something caused by helicopter parents.

[Orvas Dren]

It's also worth adding that actual speedrunner communities (the actual runners) are extremely small, like usually 10-20 people at most, and as such all these people basically know each other. When a ***** outbreak happens in these spaces, it has essentially already infected the entire community, even if it's only one or two dudes at first.

[Decline]

Real autists

Most people diagnosed with autism today don't have autism is my point.

[Maledict]

It wasn't. I grew up following speedrunning. The change happened seemingly overnight and hit everyone hard. The good speedrunners were replaced by unbearable troonoids. I believe this came from the top and was pushed. This wasn't a natural organic occurence.

[Norfleet]

I don't think I've ever seen a black speedrunner lol

What are you talking about? Many of the best speedrunners in the world are black. See: Usain Bolt.

[TKVNC]

Speedrunning requires people be quite autistic.

This is also the number 1 demographic most at risk of *****-out.

[rusty_shackleford]

Do you think there's women out there that are attracted solely to socially awkward nerds that spend their time getting upset at ****** groups trooning out autistic males?

[Tangerine]

Do you think there's women out there that are attracted solely to socially awkward nerds that spend their time getting upset at ****** groups trooning out autistic males?

@GhostCow thoughts?

[Magick]

It wasn't. I grew up following speedrunning. The change happened seemingly overnight and hit everyone hard. The good speedrunners were replaced by unbearable troonoids. I believe this came from the top and was pushed. This wasn't a natural organic occurence.

"Pushed from the top" how though? Can't anyone speedrun? Or is it some sort of "organisation"?

[TKVNC]

Do you think there's women out there that are attracted solely to socially awkward nerds that spend their time getting upset at ****** groups trooning out autistic males?

Women are simultaneously attracted to nothing, and anything... If the associated man has social power.

[Godjjjita]

It wasn't. I grew up following speedrunning. The change happened seemingly overnight and hit everyone hard. The good speedrunners were replaced by unbearable troonoids. I believe this came from the top and was pushed. This wasn't a natural organic occurence.

"Pushed from the top" how though? Can't anyone speedrun? Or is it some sort of "organisation"?

There are websites with leaderboards that can officialize a speedrun or remove it for "reasons" and possibly even ban people.
Speedrunning is about fame and recognition, without this there is no reward from doing it.

[Magick]

It wasn't. I grew up following speedrunning. The change happened seemingly overnight and hit everyone hard. The good speedrunners were replaced by unbearable troonoids. I believe this came from the top and was pushed. This wasn't a natural organic occurence.

"Pushed from the top" how though? Can't anyone speedrun? Or is it some sort of "organisation"?

There are websites with leaderboards that can officialize a speedrun or remove it for "reasons" and possibly even ban people.
Speedrunning is about fame and recognition, without this there is no reward from doing it.

So they're banning the non-****** and letting the ****** keep their scores? I imagine they'd love to treat the ****** "fairer", but doesn't the score speak for itself?
(Not arguing here, just trying to work out what's happening).

[Godjjjita]

"Pushed from the top" how though? Can't anyone speedrun? Or is it some sort of "organisation"?

There are websites with leaderboards that can officialize a speedrun or remove it for "reasons" and possibly even ban people.
Speedrunning is about fame and recognition, without this there is no reward from doing it.

So they're banning the non-****** and letting the ****** keep their scores? I imagine they'd love to treat the ****** "fairer", but doesn't the score speak for itself?
(Not arguing here, just trying to work out what's happening).

I am not involved in the community nor do I care about speedrunning but maybe they can ban someone for supporting ICE or something? If those websites became corrupt in their moderation like nexus mods, any right wing tendencies is enough of a reason to be banned for "hate speech" or something.
Meritocracy is dead.
Edit: Here are the rules of speedrun dot com

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Leaderboard Moderation

Leaderboards should be viewed as owned by the community and curated by the moderators. A user who requests a leaderboard does not own the leaderboard.
Users with a commercial interest in the game such as developers, publishers, or marketing partners are not permitted to serve as moderators. Moderators must be independent community members to avoid conflicts of interest.
Moderators should familiarize themselves with the General Site Rules.
We suggest users seeking to moderate leaderboards should be at least age 16.
Users moderating games will be held to a higher standard of behavior than normal users for on-site and off-site conduct. If controversy and drama arises frequently from a user's conduct, site staff may remove the user from moderation.
The users moderating a game should represent the consensus of the players of the game. If it is evident that moderators are not representing consensus among runners, site staff may change moderation.
Moderators should typically speedrun the game, or at a minimum be heavily involved with the community.
Leaderboards should aim to have at least 3 active moderators if qualified people are available.
Leaderboards shall not be used for site protests, protests of game developer decisions, or general advocacy on social issues.
Failure to respond to site staff inquiries regarding moderation issues may result in moderation removal.
It is generally observed by site staff that people who cannot get along cannot successfully moderate together.
Moderators must remain impartial in their treatment of community members.
Preferential treatment of any type (moving runs up in the verification queue, verifying runs that do not meet standards, etc) is forbidden, especially if associated with payment or favors. Failure to remain impartial may result in moderator removal.
Although game rules may reference additional community sites and suggest submitting to multiple, game rules cannot require runners to use those sites instead of SR.C, nor require runners to submit to external sites in order to be listed on SR.C
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The following rules will be strictly enforced:

Do not list a player's runs on a leaderboard if they explicitly do not want it listed.
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If moderating a board and in need of advice on handling a controversial situation, feel free to reach out to site staff.

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Moderators are generally given 21 days to process run submissions.
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It is highly recommended that category names describe the category in a way that users who have played the game and have a basic understanding of speedrunning can understand what the category means at first glance.
As a loose recommendation, subcategories are intended for things that are for the most part not directly comparable. Variables are intended for things that are mostly comparable but may still wish to be sorted by.
The site discourages usage of a % sign after an arbitrary category name such as Tutorial%. Many users dislike this naming convention. Common uses such as any%, low%, and 100% are acceptable.

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Run Requirements

A minimum effort requirement is reasonable. It is recommended to at a minimum accept a first playthrough done in one sitting with an intention of playing the category quickly.
Runs that are clearly not making an effort to beat the game's category quickly may be rejected.
Runs featuring inappropriate video or images on the side or highly offensive/slanderous audio may be rejected.
Run submission comments slandering users or moderators may be rejected.
It is reasonable to expect that the video must be of a reasonable enough viewing quality and stable framerate to clearly see everything going on in the game. It is not recommended to set a strict threshold such as 720p.

Verification

It is generally left to the moderators to determine a necessary level of scrutiny for a run.
For the top time in a category, it is generally expected that the entire run be watched.
For times that are not particularly notable, reviewing small portions of the video may be sufficient.
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In a general sense, we want communities to come to their own consensus on how to handle complex game specific issues. Site staff wants game moderators to evaluate the consensus of their community and to handle gray cases for the game's community. In rare cases, smaller boards have deviated substantially from normal site expectations and site staff may step in to keep rules and expectations realistic across the many games on the site.
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Can appoint users as verifiers, moderators, and super moderators. They are also capable of editing the moderator status of (or removing the moderator status from) verifiers and moderators. They cannot edit the moderator status of other Super Moderators.
Have full access to Game "Guides".
Have full access to Game "Statistics" as well as "Audit Logs" for the game
Additionally have all permissions of Regular Moderators and Verifiers.

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Can edit rules, categories, runs for the game.
Can submit runs for other users.
Can edit the information in the Game "Resources".
Can add, change, or remove various links on the sidebar, such as links to a game page or discord.
Can edit posts of other Super Moderators or Moderators in their game's forums. Editing of other user's posts is not possible.
Can self-verify runs
Additionally have all permissions of Verifiers.

Verifiers

Can edit and delete new and existing submissions
Cannot self-verify runs
Can manage donation tracker in marathons. (Read & approve donations, add bidwards, goals etc.) but is unable to edit marathon data.

Users

May submit guides/resources if they have an approved run on the board.
Can edit their own runs. This may require the run to be re-verified by a moderator.

While it doesn't seem particularly biased, the idea of community moderation may lead to certain political viewpoints to be prevalent in people with the desire to moderate (control) the leaderboard.
Or it is just a social issue with the idea of speedrunning attracting people with certain traits that are usually more progressive leaning. Who knows?

[GhostCow]

Do you think there's women out there that are attracted solely to socially awkward nerds that spend their time getting upset at ****** groups trooning out autistic males?

@GhostCow thoughts?

This is literally my fiancee so yes. She thinks complaining about woke is an old man thing, but she still prefers someone right wing.