Reccomend me a good PC gaming controller.

[Norfleet]

Console games just don't have features like that that take pressing more than one button at a time at all, except for rare cases with the actual finger buttons on the back. They're simplified games for lazy *******.

But what about fighting games, the classic staple? I wouldn't even be able to play Street Fighter on that.

[Stack of Turtles]

Console games just don't have features like that that take pressing more than one button at a time at all, except for rare cases with the actual finger buttons on the back. They're simplified games for lazy *******.

But what about fighting games, the classic staple? I wouldn't even be able to play Street Fighter on that.

I don't think ANYONE plays fighting games anymore. Maybe with Wii Flail.

[Norfleet]

Idk. Weed helps people with pain and also stress and "anxiety" and stuff, and i don't think it has any drawbacks? Where as alcohol can help people in ways but it can also seriously **** them up at the same time really easily

This is probably true, but at the same time, alcohol has the traditional responsibility for not ******** yourself to death. So whatever its drawbacks, humans have learned to live with them over the past thousands of years because the alternative was a horrible death.

[GhostCow]

I still play fighting games and I actually find them better on a keyboard. Sometimes you can even do some cheater **** that wouldn't work on a controller like holding down and double tapping a direction for a shoryuken instead of doing the full motion

[anonusername]

You're supposed to hit the buttons with your thumbs like on a phone. It's awful.

I only have two thumbs, though, and there at least 4 different sets of controls. How many thumbs do you people have? Keyboard+Mouse is CLEARLY SUPERIOR, with a single hand on a keyboard being able to simultaneously manipulate several different sets of controls. For instance, how the **** would you quickscope on a controller, when you only have one thumb with which to hit the buttons with? The moment you move your thumb off the scope button to fire, you lose your scope bonus. How would you manage to aim, walk, and shoot at the same time? Awful. Hell, how would you even play a fighting game in this setup, when you only have one thumb free to push the various attack buttons? In the old arcade controls, you could operate the stick and mash the buttons with the fingers on your other hand, but how the **** are you supposed to do that HERE? At least the old Nintendo controllers let you kinda wrap your hand over the top and push the buttons that way. This, you can't even do because that stick-handle ends up jabbing into your wrist if you try, if you even can.

Console games just don't have features like that that take pressing more than one button at a time at all, except for rare cases with the actual finger buttons on the back. They're simplified games for lazy *******.

A bunch of the armored core derivatives encourage using at least 7 inputs at once in some situations. (Two joysticks for movement and camera, four buttons for weapons, and an additional button for dodge/special/etc.) Other console games support gyro aiming so you can aim with your thumb off the joystick. Ace Combat 7 was compatible with a throttle+joystick combo with over 30 button inputs in addition to 6 axis inputs on PS5. (Although, I think you could only use 4 axes at once. I'm not sure since I don't own the PS5 AC7 or the HOTAS it was compatible with.) Unfortunately, Microsoft's Xinput encourages a lowest common denominator of ****** xbox controllers without gyro or back buttons.

Overall, KB+M have advantages but are designed for productivity, not gaming. Analog inputs have advantages in many cases and keyboards are not particularly efficient with the number of simultaneous inputs you can achieve. Conventional XBox (and to a slightly less extend playstation) controllers suffer from a limited number of inputs. Joysticks and throttles can allow for a huge number of simultaneous and easily reachable inputs, but are only really supported by flight sims. Each finger has 3 axes of movement potentially available to a control mechanism, plus the wrist with three axes of movement and an axis of rotation. This is why a thumb joystick on a controller can serve the same function as three fingers worth of keyboard inputs using WASD movement.

[Valter]

Steam Controller looking like a body positivity influencer

[rusty_shackleford]

Steam Controller looking like a body positivity influencer

Guess I'd have to try it to know how it feels but it may solve my issue with camera control using a controller being awful.

[Jordy]

It's been a long time since I used a steam controller and I just couldn't get on with the touch pads. A particular gripe that springs to mind was that I kept accidentally brushing them with my hand/thumb or something which caused unwanted things to happen.

[J1M]

I have a GameSir controller https://gamesir.com/collections/all-pro ... descending


My fav controllers are PS2 controllers (wired, if unwired even exist).

I have never heard of this company before. Checked your link and some of their gamepads sound even better than what 8bitdo offers. I will be very tempted to buy a couple.

Does Nintendo have the "satellite" style (GameCube) face button layout patented? Sad to see so many options but nothing with that clearly superior layout.

[J1M]

You're supposed to hit the buttons with your thumbs like on a phone. It's awful.

I only have two thumbs, though, and there at least 4 different sets of controls. How many thumbs do you people have? Keyboard+Mouse is CLEARLY SUPERIOR, with a single hand on a keyboard being able to simultaneously manipulate several different sets of controls. For instance, how the **** would you quickscope on a controller, when you only have one thumb with which to hit the buttons with? The moment you move your thumb off the scope button to fire, you lose your scope bonus. How would you manage to aim, walk, and shoot at the same time? Awful. Hell, how would you even play a fighting game in this setup, when you only have one thumb free to push the various attack buttons? In the old arcade controls, you could operate the stick and mash the buttons with the fingers on your other hand, but how the **** are you supposed to do that HERE? At least the old Nintendo controllers let you kinda wrap your hand over the top and push the buttons that way. This, you can't even do because that stick-handle ends up jabbing into your wrist if you try, if you even can.

Console games just don't have features like that that take pressing more than one button at a time at all, except for rare cases with the actual finger buttons on the back. They're simplified games for lazy *******.

There's plenty of console games that use the triggers as shift buttons to select a larger range of spells. (Darksiders, FFXIV)

The GameCube controller, with the superior face button layout, made it possible to easily hit A+B, A+X, A+Y so some games made use of that as well.

[J1M]

I have a GameSir controller https://gamesir.com/collections/all-pro ... descending


My fav controllers are PS2 controllers (wired, if unwired even exist).

I have never heard of this company before. Checked your link and some of their gamepads sound even better than what 8bitdo offers. I will be very tempted to buy a couple.

Does Nintendo have the "satellite" style (GameCube) face button layout patented? Sad to see so many options but nothing with that clearly superior layout.

They did have at least one, but it ran out a decade ago. Could be more of them.

https://patentimages.storage.googleapis ... 456854.pdf

[Tweed]

luv me dualshock 3

[Magick]

It's been a long time since I used a steam controller and I just couldn't get on with the touch pads. A particular gripe that springs to mind was that I kept accidentally brushing them with my hand/thumb or something which caused unwanted things to happen.

Yep, I had to set up a deadzone because every time I pressed the B button, it would activate the right touchpad and swing my camera down.
Daft putting the pads so close to the buttons like that, and you had to reach across it to get to the Y button.

[Eyestabber]

The Vader 4 Pro is great if you like the Xbox design but want much higher quality components and analog sticks that don't drift after a month of use.

If you want something slightly cheaper the GameSir G7 is solid and is wired which may be a positive for some people.

Lastly I'd say the Switch Pro controllers are great quality and for me personally I think it has the best ergonomics. Downside is they don't have hall effect sticks like my previous recommendations which means you'll eventually get stick drift. If you're willing though you could replace the Switch Pro's default sticks with hall effect ones yourself.

Kinda funny to associate "quality" to a ***** controller you can buy off Ali Express. I have a Vader 3 and it's indeed quite good. Crazy that it's considerably better than other controllers that cost a lot more.

[J1M]

The Vader 4 Pro is great if you like the Xbox design but want much higher quality components and analog sticks that don't drift after a month of use.

If you want something slightly cheaper the GameSir G7 is solid and is wired which may be a positive for some people.

Lastly I'd say the Switch Pro controllers are great quality and for me personally I think it has the best ergonomics. Downside is they don't have hall effect sticks like my previous recommendations which means you'll eventually get stick drift. If you're willing though you could replace the Switch Pro's default sticks with hall effect ones yourself.

Kinda funny to associate "quality" to a ***** controller you can buy off Ali Express. I have a Vader 3 and it's indeed quite good. Crazy that it's considerably better than other controllers that cost a lot more.

Don't remember where I heard this, but basically the reason the Chinese knock-offs usually feel like ****** mad katz controllers is because when they hire a Chinese firm to replicate an OEM controller, they usually just tell them to figure it out and they don't bother to send them actual OEM controllers to replicate. So they accurately copy the ****** third party feel.

[Classix]

Been using my PS4 controller for everything Steam/GoG/PC wise for the games I play and haven't had an issue yet luckily. Always able to make it work on whatever I need it for. Little bugger got me through every Legend Bowl game so far, still chugging.

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[enisey]

I'm probably getting the new Steam Controller. I have a Steam Deck and I really like the extra buttons on the back, and the touch pads for typing, using the mouse, and custom radial menus. Really enables a lot of games that were not designed for controllers.

I use my PS4 controller otherwise, which works, but it's never charged when I feel like using it since I don't have a dock for it.

[Eyestabber]

I have the og steam controller and it's a piece of ****. Word of caution.

[Magick]

I have the og steam controller and it's a piece of ****. Word of caution.

The plastic is so hard! Makes my hands ache after a while. Feels like some Chinese thing.

As to the new one, it apparently only works with non-steam games if ran through steam. So no good for emulators and really old stuff that doesn't like steam triggering it.

[enisey]

I have the og steam controller and it's a piece of ****. Word of caution.

It goes without saying to wait for reviews, but like I said I really enjoy the Steam Deck, so I admit I have some hope.

[maidenhaver]

What's the best number pad, these days?

[Rand]

one "c", two "m"s

[Valter]

Apparently only works if you run the games through Steam :///////
https://kotaku.com/valves-new-steam-con ... 2000690881

[J1M]

Apparently only works if you run the games through Steam :///////
https://kotaku.com/valves-new-steam-con ... 2000690881

That's not what the article says.

[Valter]

Apparently only works if you run the games through Steam :///////
https://kotaku.com/valves-new-steam-con ... 2000690881

That's not what the article says.

Hence the "apparently". Showing a 3rd-party game as an example that the controller works with them, only to add at the end that you ran it as a Steam executable anyway, makes me lean towards this conclusion. In addition to not working at all with consoles, which would naturally be the case for a device that only works with Steam.
We will have confirmation soon enough though.

[Eyestabber]

Are you really not going to fix the title? * Sigh*

[sheet]

Yeah, gained some then immediately lost interest in the new Valve hardware. VR will still be a meme and I barely touched my Steam Deck in the years I've had it.