Avowed, a TOW-like game from Obsidian

[traxtan]

I kinda hope that someone will make some characters less brown and some of the npcs I guess less troonish.

What about the rest of the game.

[Finarfin]

Gameplay is fine, environments are fine, characters (companions and quest givers) are fine. Yatzli looks **** but Orlan suck in general imo.

[Rand]

need @Red7's opinion

...vagina!

[Finarfin]

need @Red7's opinion

...vagina!

Red7's Anthem.

[Rand]

I kinda hope that someone will make some characters less brown and some of the npcs I guess less troonish.

My guess is the negro/"egyptian" woman will be the the first to get corrected. Next will be the furry.
(The real problem though is the voice on that Yatzli thing is repellent.)

Both the dwarf and the squid-shark man need an overhaul as well. Give me a proper dwarf, **** it!
Doesn't need to be a classic dwarf, but something's not right with that one.

As to how to fix shark-man, I have no idea where to begin, but the soulless eyes and expressionless face have have to go.
I think it's the same VA as Garrus the alien from Mass Effect, and while odd and nonhuman, he was not repellent to look at like that Cthuluoid thing.

[gastovski]

This game is even more woke than bg3 i tell you

[Nico]

I kinda hope that someone will make some characters less brown and some of the npcs I guess less troonish.

Will anyone even bother ?

BG3 has plenty of "unwoking" mods because the underlying game is good. Is Avowed good enough to convince modders to even try ?

[Finarfin]

I kinda hope that someone will make some characters less brown and some of the npcs I guess less troonish.

My guess is the negro/"egyptian" woman will be the the first to get corrected. Next will be the furry.
(The real problem though is the voice on that Yatzli thing is repellent.)

Both the dwarf and the squid-shark man need an overhaul as well. Give me a proper dwarf, **** it!
Doesn't need to be a classic dwarf, but something's not right with that one.

As to how to fix shark-man, I have no idea where to begin, but the soulless eyes and expressionless face have have to go.
I think it's the same VA as Garrus the alien from Mass Effect, and while odd and nonhuman, he was not repellent to look at like that Cthuluoid thing.

Negro/Eyptian? You mean Giatta? She seems fine so far, atleast they made her pretty enough (for a negress)
Furry can be fixed by just changing the fur/hair color. Voice is pretty **** I agree. I mean people successfully made a Serana mod that replaced Laura Baileys voice (with a different voice actress) but Mass Effect for example has multiple "Lives" mods that give Thane, Mordin along with Shepard AI voices that sound very convincing.

As for Kai, sharkdudes just look weird in general, but I don't exactly dislike him. They tend to look kinda soulless and expressionless. And Marius seems to be a normal dwarf in the lore because he is Pargrunen, a culture of the Aptapo (Mountain Dwarves) and they tend to be explorers, miners and builders. He is more of a ranger and outdoorsman which is fine. Still would've preferred to have different trees for each companion to have them suit your needs (If you play a mage, you won't take Giatta with you but if you could make her something else, you would)

[Finarfin]

This game is even more woke than bg3 i tell you

No it is not.
BG3 has a drag queen in it that is also voiced by the exact drag queen they use for the likeness of him.
It has unironic druid transforming into a bear that you have sex with.
It has a canon ****** that is the best friend of the companion that most likely was involved in gangbangs.
You can give your male Tav a vagina and your female Tav a penis.
The game has innumerous NPCs that talk about casual sex and lusting after people, and it leans heavily to the lgbt side instead of straight characters saying these things.
The game has disproportionate amounts of married gay couples.
There are literal ***** kids in BG3.
Corellion got turned transexual


BG3 is so woke that Orin and the others are STILL NOT DONE MODDING OUT THE WOKE.

[gastovski]

Overwhelming majority of npcs are women and brown/black and overwhelming majority of men also brown/black are pussy soybois, bg3 wasnt like this.

[Rand]

Negro/Eyptian? You mean Giatta? She seems fine so far, atleast they made her pretty enough (for a negress)

As the only female human, mods to fix her hair, skin, and makeup are guaranteed.

That Yatzli thing needs serious mesh work, not just texture/coloration mods. The face is weirdly proportioned and gross and the body is weird-skinny and dumpy at the same time.

Passable face (still needs to be non-humaned a bit nose and mouth):


Too human and too furry all at once:

[Finarfin]

Negro/Eyptian? You mean Giatta? She seems fine so far, atleast they made her pretty enough (for a negress)

As the only female human, mods to fix her hair, skin, and makeup are guaranteed.

That Yatzli thing needs serious mesh work, not just texture/coloration mods. The face is weirdly proportioned and gross and the body is weird-skinny and dumpy at the same time.

Passable face (still needs to be non-humaned a bit nose and mouth):


Too human and too furry all at once:

Agreed. Yatzli could use a facelift and more fur on her face. It looks furry but is too smooth and flat.

[Rand]

It is entirely possible to do Orlans well.
It would require the art director to not be a leftist ****** supervising inept diversity hires, though.

[Finarfin]

It is entirely possible to do Orlans well.
It would help if the art director isn't a leftist ****** supervising inept diversity hires, though.

Wasn't this dude a ******? I remember reading that he would hit on you even as a male MC

[gastovski]

Overwhelming majority of npcs are women and brown/black and overwhelming majority of men also brown/black are pussy soybois, bg3 wasnt like this.

Almost every guest giver characters are either strong colored badass women or pathetic weakass sounded man. Sometimes you get to see man and women talking each other but always women acts like superior all knowing better than man while man looking like a loser beggar or something. Plus women comes out as bossy and right about anything.

[Rand]

Wasn't this dude a ******? I remember reading that he would hit on you even as a male MC

No idea. Given that Obsidian's corpse has apparently been raised and homosexually violated (before and after, repeatedly) by a *** necromancer cabal, it wouldn't surprise me.

I was simply commenting on the aesthetics of the art.

[Rand]

Overwhelming majority of npcs are women and brown/black and overwhelming majority of men also brown/black are pussy soybois, bg3 wasnt like this.

Almost every guest giver characters are either strong colored badass women or pathetic weakass sounded man. Sometimes you get to see man and women talking each other but always women acts like superior all knowing better than man while man looking like a loser beggar or something. Plus women comes out as bossy and right about anything.

You can't miss this. Every woman soldier is a "strong warrior" and usually in command of all men.

[gastovski]

Not just military too merchants, locals, random travelers, prietresses, officals... overwhelmingly are strong women

[Vaako]

[Rand]

People say a lot of **** about Oblivion faces, and rightly so, but the faces in this game are somehow usually worse.
Men rarely look at all manly, especially with beards, and many women's faces are copy/paste from one of a set of 3 or 4 just with different hair and skin tone.

[Envuen]

Word "Merchant" is bigoted these days as well?

No but it could be potentially overly arousing for the nose tribe

[Oyster Sauce]

The guards are static props...

[A Chinese opium den]

The guards are static props...

Stunning realism.

[gerey]

The guards are static props...

That's, like, a deep commentary on the function police serve in fascist US, okay?

Why are you so media illiterate?

[ArcaneLurker]

This game is even more woke than bg3 i tell you

No it is not.
BG3 has a drag queen in it that is also voiced by the exact drag queen they use for the likeness of him.
It has unironic druid transforming into a bear that you have sex with.
It has a canon ****** that is the best friend of the companion that most likely was involved in gangbangs.
You can give your male Tav a vagina and your female Tav a penis.
The game has innumerous NPCs that talk about casual sex and lusting after people, and it leans heavily to the lgbt side instead of straight characters saying these things.
The game has disproportionate amounts of married gay couples.
There are literal ***** kids in BG3.
Corellion got turned transexual


BG3 is so woke that Orin and the others are STILL NOT DONE MODDING OUT THE WOKE.

It's easier to count the non-woke aspects in Act 2 & 3, than the reverse.
In Act 1, the refugees story was obviously a contemporary reference, and trying to paint the hostiles illegally entering our countries as poor, likkle, oppressed demon-spawn. Act 3 also doubled down on this, to clarify: anyone, in any circumstance, who opposes mass migration into their homeland/ neighbourhood, is an evil bigot. Aside from that, there's not the same level of AIDS. Might be why people think it's more passable than it is, I don't think many people played Act 3.

[Finarfin]

People don't really do something, since you are the imperial envoy. You are literally above the law. Hence the whole "Take, not stealing" people comment on it and if more people are around, usually one reminds the other that you are the envoy and to not stand in your way.

[rusty_shackleford]

convenient excuse to not implement a crime system btw

[Roguey]

Agreed. Yatzli could use a facelift and more fur on her face. It looks furry but is too smooth and flat.

She's a hearth Orlan, not wild, they don't really have much fur on their faces.

[ArcaneLurker]

They're like Asura but worse.

[UltraFan123]

Methinks that the only way there would even be any form of true modding community around this gane is if it manages to become at least a fraction of the commercial success that BG3 was.