Is VTMB or FNV more overrated?

[Atlantico]

ur mom is overrated

[rusty_shackleford]

Faggout new ****** is the ultimate overrated "software", and yes I maintain the quotes since it's hardly a software but more of a living bug embodied as a program.
Also Chris's writing in the game is garbage: Veronica the wasteland SJW, Lanius the **** whose sacrifices everything only to drops everything after a few skill-checks passed, and other overrated characters.
Combat is atrociously bad as well.

Vampires wins by default because it's not a bug but a software.

Imagine saying with such confidence that VtMB isn't the quintessential example of an untested and buggy mess of a game

Reminder that Bloodlines was released with a bug that made the game literally impossible to finish. I love VTMB, but it, much like Arcanum, was and is a ******* mess.

Man, Troika could've been something really grand with some more time, money, and less ******** publishers.

nosferatu being completely untested because none of the QA testers wanted to play as nosferatu was hilarious tho

[Gregz]

Imagine saying with such confidence that VtMB isn't the quintessential example of an untested and buggy mess of a game

Reminder that Bloodlines was released with a bug that made the game literally impossible to finish. I love VTMB, but it, much like Arcanum, was and is a ******* mess.

Man, Troika could've been something really grand with some more time, money, and less ******** publishers.

nosferatu being completely untested because none of the QA testers wanted to play as nosferatu was hilarious tho

Why do you promote and defend globohomo-approved AAA **** while denigrating classic RPGs?

[rusty_shackleford]

Reminder that Bloodlines was released with a bug that made the game literally impossible to finish. I love VTMB, but it, much like Arcanum, was and is a ******* mess.

Man, Troika could've been something really grand with some more time, money, and less ******** publishers.

nosferatu being completely untested because none of the QA testers wanted to play as nosferatu was hilarious tho

Why do you promote and defend globohomo-approved AAA **** while denigrating classic RPGs?

where am I denigrating fallout 3?

[Luckmann]

Reminder that Bloodlines was released with a bug that made the game literally impossible to finish. I love VTMB, but it, much like Arcanum, was and is a ******* mess.

Man, Troika could've been something really grand with some more time, money, and less ******** publishers.

nosferatu being completely untested because none of the QA testers wanted to play as nosferatu was hilarious tho

Why do you promote and defend globohomo-approved AAA **** while denigrating classic RPGs?

It is not denigrating to say that it's hilarious that no-one in the group meant to test the game wanted to play the uggos, so they went completely untested. It's a factoid and it's funny.

Like I said earlier, I love VTMB. I've played through it several times, I think it largely still holds up even today, it is a CRPG classic. But let's not pretend that it doesn't have major issues, was virtually untested, shipped in a literally broken state, and could've used at least 6 months of just pure polish. And let's not get started no the pile at the cutting room floor, which is why the game falls off a cliff towards the end and why only the Tremere feels like they get to meet their primogen (which is technically untrue).

Man I still remember walking into that Tzimisce house and just.. smelling it through the screen.

[rusty_shackleford]

They also took the fan patch and shipped it with the game to fix the boat crash.

[Boontaker]

The first time I played FNV I pulled a typical marathon, followed by a 2nd playthrough after I ****** up and killed too many NPCs.

The first time I played VTMB I got confused and uninstalled it after 3 hours and didn't touch it again for many years.

Also i'm better at games than you so don't even you ******

[Red7]

Even when I played Vampire on release I felt like "**** this could be one of the best games ever if the combat wasn't complete dog ****". I tried playing it recently and felt the same way. Super floaty movement and combat, maybe I just never played it right. Everything else was amazing. Same kind of applies to Arcanum but I felt like that combat was actually a lot better.

ye combat is jank but what kind of *** would play melee especially third person? u should spec in guns and it can get quite fun. i would say bit less yanky than nv.
i still got more satisfaction from auto shotgun there than most fps shooters, beside modded stalker ofc.

[junior]

Even when I played Vampire on release I felt like "**** this could be one of the best games ever if the combat wasn't complete dog ****". I tried playing it recently and felt the same way. Super floaty movement and combat, maybe I just never played it right. Everything else was amazing. Same kind of applies to Arcanum but I felt like that combat was actually a lot better.

ye combat is jank but what kind of *** would play melee especially third person? u should spec in guns and it can get quite fun. i would say bit less yanky than nv.
i still got more satisfaction from auto shotgun there than most fps shooters, beside modded stalker ofc.

guns are terrible early melee is good all the way through

[Vergil]

I had put off playing VTMB for years (despite being obsessed with vampire fiction) due to being terminally allergic to source engine games but I finally played through it last year and it's probably shot up into one of my favorite games of all time.
I think New Vegas is overrated just simply from being a bigger franchise with more eyes on it. VTMB is a half finished game from 2004 you need weird patches to playthrough normally (and figuring out which version of the unofficial patch to use can be annoying for new people).

[Red7]

Even when I played Vampire on release I felt like "**** this could be one of the best games ever if the combat wasn't complete dog ****". I tried playing it recently and felt the same way. Super floaty movement and combat, maybe I just never played it right. Everything else was amazing. Same kind of applies to Arcanum but I felt like that combat was actually a lot better.

ye combat is jank but what kind of *** would play melee especially third person? u should spec in guns and it can get quite fun. i would say bit less yanky than nv.
i still got more satisfaction from auto shotgun there than most fps shooters, beside modded stalker ofc.

guns are terrible early melee is good all the way through

thats gay tho. its like making stealth build in fallout 4 and killing deathclaw with pipe pistol 1 hit. its in game cheating. and it looks and feels horrible.

[junior]

ye combat is jank but what kind of *** would play melee especially third person? u should spec in guns and it can get quite fun. i would say bit less yanky than nv.
i still got more satisfaction from auto shotgun there than most fps shooters, beside modded stalker ofc.

guns are terrible early melee is good all the way through

thats gay tho. its like making stealth build in fallout 4 and killing deathclaw with pipe pistol 1 hit. its in game cheating. and it looks and feels horrible.

One does not play bloodlines for it's combat.

[Sweeper]

One was made by Troika, the other by Obsidian.
I'll let you guys draw your own conclusions (and if you draw the wrong one it means you're ********).

Shillitron, aweigh, Emphyrio, Atlantico, Humbaba, Boontaker

Oh man just look at these ******* *******, holy ****.

[Vergil]

guns are terrible early melee is good all the way through

thats gay tho. its like making stealth build in fallout 4 and killing deathclaw with pipe pistol 1 hit. its in game cheating. and it looks and feels horrible.

One does not play bloodlines for it's combat.

A celerity using toreador is super fun and I don't understand why so much discussion of VTMB talks about how awful the combat is. I loved the combat encounters in Bloodlines.
Feel like this meme came about from the same people who want RPGs to be visual novels.

[Emphyrio]

thats gay tho. its like making stealth build in fallout 4 and killing deathclaw with pipe pistol 1 hit. its in game cheating. and it looks and feels horrible.

One does not play bloodlines for it's combat.

A celerity using toreador is super fun and I don't understand why so much discussion of VTMB talks about how awful the combat is. I loved the combat encounters in Bloodlines.
Feel like this meme came about from the same people who want RPGs to be visual novels.

It was ok. Needing to switch between 1st and 3rd person isn't great. Usually the combat was super easy and it's hard to consider combat "bad" when it usually flies past so fast that you never have to learn the mechanics, and their merits, in any depth. In my first run though I got stuck against the chinese tentacle woman and couldn't beat her no matter what I tried.

[Emphyrio]

Oh man just look at these ******* *******, holy ****.

What does "overrated" mean?

[Vergil]

One does not play bloodlines for it's combat.

A celerity using toreador is super fun and I don't understand why so much discussion of VTMB talks about how awful the combat is. I loved the combat encounters in Bloodlines.
Feel like this meme came about from the same people who want RPGs to be visual novels.

It was ok. Needing to switch between 1st and 3rd person isn't great. Usually the combat was super easy and it's hard to consider combat "bad" when it usually flies past so fast that you never have to learn the mechanics, and their merits, in any depth. In my first run though I got stuck against the chinese tentacle woman and couldn't beat her no matter what I tried.

The chinkthulhu final boss was another one that everyone and their mother told me was awful but it I cleared her first try it was just a little tedious/bullet spongy.

[Emphyrio]

A celerity using toreador is super fun and I don't understand why so much discussion of VTMB talks about how awful the combat is. I loved the combat encounters in Bloodlines.
Feel like this meme came about from the same people who want RPGs to be visual novels.

It was ok. Needing to switch between 1st and 3rd person isn't great. Usually the combat was super easy and it's hard to consider combat "bad" when it usually flies past so fast that you never have to learn the mechanics, and their merits, in any depth. In my first run though I got stuck against the chinese tentacle woman and couldn't beat her no matter what I tried.

The chinkthulhu final boss was another one that everyone and their mother told me was awful but it I cleared her first try it was just a little tedious/bullet spongy.

Too bullet spongey for me. I kept running out of ammo and she still wouldn't be dead. I kept thinking there must be some secret weakness I wasn't seeing, but I didn't look up any guides or videos or anything, I just got bored after trying to beat her 10 times. I think my build just wasn't good enough.

[Atlantico]

One was made by Troika, the other by Obsidian.
I'll let you guys draw your own conclusions (and if you draw the wrong one it means you're ********).

Shillitron, aweigh, Emphyrio, Atlantico, Humbaba, Boontaker

Oh man just look at these ******* *******, holy ****.

lmao manchild who can't read

[Sweeper]

One was made by Troika, the other by Obsidian.
I'll let you guys draw your own conclusions (and if you draw the wrong one it means you're ********).

Shillitron, aweigh, Emphyrio, Atlantico, Humbaba, Boontaker

Oh man just look at these ******* *******, holy ****.

lmao manchild who can't read

Listen, buddy, if you think VTMB is more overrated than FNV, you're a ******* ******. It's that simple. For Christ sake you voted for the same option as Humbaba, that alone is enough of an indicator.
Alright, happy to clear things up for you slowboy, hope it helps.

[Atlantico]

One was made by Troika, the other by Obsidian.
I'll let you guys draw your own conclusions (and if you draw the wrong one it means you're ********).
Oh man just look at these ******* *******, holy ****.

lmao manchild who can't read

Listen, buddy, if you think VTMB is more overrated than FNV, you're a ******* ******. It's that simple. For Christ sake you voted for the same option as Humbaba, that alone is enough of an indicator.
Alright, happy to clear things up for you slowboy, hope it helps.

@Humbaba is usually right about things, don't you dare sully his good name!

[Emphyrio]

Listen, buddy, if you think VTMB is more overrated than FNV, you're a ******* ******. It's that simple. For Christ sake you voted for the same option as Humbaba, that alone is enough of an indicator.
Alright, happy to clear things up for you slowboy, hope it helps.

which game is more overrated is a seperate thing from which one is "better", or which one you personally like more.

FNV's faults are well-known and acknowledged even by people who like the game.

VTMB gets a pass on a lot of **** from its fanboys. It even gets circular logic to defend it. "It's good because it's made by Troika. Troika made it so it must be good."

[Sweeper]

which game is more overrated is a seperate thing from which one is "better", or which one you personally like more.

It's not though, when you say something is overrated you're saying the quality of the game isn't as good as someone claims it is.
And I'm sorry, but FNV just isn't as good as VTMB, and is by extension more overrated.

[GhostCow]

I really hate combat where you are just spamming one button, but for some reason I enjoy the melee in Bloodlines. I wish I could put my finger on why. As I've said before, it's not great, but I still have fun with it.

[Element]

Neither is overrated, both were and are great games that deserve praise.

[Boontaker]

**** sucking vampire, slave to dried up turbo ****

Gun slinging cowboy, purging the wasteland of literally anyone you want

If you didn't like VtmB for the buggy "gameplay", then your telling me role-playing as a gay cannibal was why you liked the game?

[GhostCow]

If Jeanette wasn't enough to make you like VTMB, then you are gay.

[Atlantico]

which game is more overrated is a seperate thing from which one is "better", or which one you personally like more.

It's not though, when you say something is overrated you're saying the quality of the game isn't as good as someone claims it is.
And I'm sorry, but FNV just isn't as good as VTMB, and is by extension more overrated.

This is why I said you can't read, you russofag mongrel. Or you're just terminally ********.

Talking about which game is more overrated is completely disconnected from whether one is better than the other, which means that "by extension" doesn't really ******* apply *****.

Goddammit I hate it when the mongoloids start getting uppity and try to use big concepts.

[Vergil]

If Jeanette wasn't enough to make you like VTMB, then you are gay.

If you fall for coomer bait you are a spiritually gay.

[Sweeper]

which game is more overrated is a seperate thing from which one is "better", or which one you personally like more.

It's not though, when you say something is overrated you're saying the quality of the game isn't as good as someone claims it is.
And I'm sorry, but FNV just isn't as good as VTMB, and is by extension more overrated.

This is why I said you can't read, you russofag mongrel. Or you're just terminally ********.

Talking about which game is more overrated is completely disconnected from whether one is better than the other, which means that "by extension" doesn't really ******* apply *****.

Goddammit I hate it when the mongoloids start getting uppity and try to use big concepts.

It's not though. If you're saying something is overrated you're literally saying that it's not as good as people claim it is. I don't know if I can make it any simpler for you my big brained friend. Regardless of how you cut it, the discussion of overratedness is directly tied to your perception of how good or bad something is in relation to other people's opinions of said thing.
You need to start thinking about things a bit instead of regurgitating lukewarm, reddit tier ********.