NYTimes confirms female character to ****** pipeline is REAL

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Ok_Rain_4512
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Any lara croft game I get so so happy playing her



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Lower-Captain-5411
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I feel the same… every time since 1996. I took 25 years and 12 games to understand and accept why.


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I first played Tomb Raider Legend at age 5, I’m now 19 and still loving the franchise. Lara is an inspiration. She shows that to embrace my femininity I don’t have to give up strength or power.

Loool

Correlation does not imply causation. I'd wager anime, single parenthood, and the public school system has a greater effect on young boys becoming ******** than playing as Lara Croft, or as this character from Stellar Blade, can possibly do. You are employing the same logic as the age old "violent games causes violence" narrative. Although witnessing violent imagery does affect you in some way (negatively perhaps), it does not itself make you a killer or one that revels in real-world violence and suffering. So too does playing as an attractive woman in a game not make you a sodomite or a ******.

Giga cope, there are no ****** saying master chief made them cut their **** off.

[revenant]

It's a complicated issue. On one hand, back in the 90's playing a female character in an RPG that had character creation (like Fallout) was universally seen as an indicator that the player was a ******. On the other hand, games that only have female protags (like Tomb Raider) or in which a female character is significantly mechanically different from a male one (like playing a sorc in Diablo II to maximize MF) were seen as okay. Then again, remembering those posts by JarlFrank on the Codex saying how him playing Tomb Raider made him embrace his desire to be a woman (lol?) makes the issue quite problematic again.

What can be said with certainty is that playing woman characters in online games definitely makes one a ****** - because you are pretending to be a woman online - while in single player games the line is somewhat blurred.

[The_Mask]

RPGs = the definitive way to tell who's a ****** and who's not.

[Hauberk]

If anything it's more normal to prefer playing as an attractive woman in a game, if you're a man. Unless you genuinely prefer staring at a man's *** for 10+ hours of gametime?.

I really wanted to give this post the harshest of **** ratings but I can't. I think I heard this argument for the first time two decades ago and then it came from a degenerate drug addict. I don't say you're one, Knight, but here we are. Do you play regularly as a womyn in tabletop RPGs too? Because that is the brand of faggotry right there.

[Orvas Dren]

Correlation does not imply causation. I'd wager anime, single parenthood, and the public school system has a greater effect on young boys becoming ******** than playing as Lara Croft, or as this character from Stellar Blade, can possibly do. You are employing the same logic as the age old "violent games causes violence" narrative. Although witnessing violent imagery does affect you in some way (negatively perhaps), it does not itself make you a killer or one that revels in real-world violence and suffering. So too does playing as an attractive woman in a game not make you a sodomite or a ******.

if you enjoy playing as a woman in a video game you are arguably an autogynephile, which is step one for many ******. When you play a game as a women, particularly one where you control her as if she was yourself, your character etc, you subconsciously view yourself as her. It is similar to how weebs use female anime pfps so often and then later ***** out: they aren't trying to be a *** initially, they just like that character, but after some time start they to view themselves as that attractive woman. Will you ***** out if you play as a female character? Not as likely as if you got groomed online, but it does play into it. Besides, why would anyone ever want to play as a woman in a vidya unless they were a ******? You really care about viewing a woman's story that much? If you want to get your rocks off just play a game where you **** a bimbo instead of being one. Besides, stellar blade has a precedent with Nier automata, a game with a pretty hot female, and look how that turned out. Coomers are just as bad as ****** half the time, and the two overlap.

[Magick]

If anything it's more normal to prefer playing as an attractive woman in a game, if you're a man. Unless you genuinely prefer staring at a man's *** for 10+ hours of gametime?.

I really wanted to give this post the harshest of **** ratings but I can't. I think I heard this argument for the first time two decades ago and then it came from a degenerate drug addict. I don't say you're one, Knight, but here we are. Do you play regularly as a womyn in tabletop RPGs too? Because that is the brand of faggotry right there.

It's a stupid ******* argument ("I'm not gay cause I don't want to stare at a man's ***"). Like wtf, why are you even comprehending that? If you stand behind another man can you not help looking at his arse or something? Convinced that argument is used only by closet gays.

However, it doesn't even apply for this game because there isn't the option. As others said, it's not gay to just play tomb raider, nor did I become a ***** despite loving Perfect Dark on the N64, or Oni on the PS1 (both female chars). There wasn't an option for otherwise.

There MAY be something in the ***** argument where people opt to play as a female char when creating their own though, where there's an option between male / female and there's no difference in the gameplay / experience, and the only focus is about arse staring..


Good that the studio has fired feminists, however I've seen a lot of "based" studios fall from grace before, so we shall see..
Did love the own though when all these ****** (inc male!) Feminists came out saying the MC's body "wasn't suited for modern audiences" etc. Though, and it turned out to be a literal bodyscan of a real female lolol. How insulting to her! And not very "feminist" is it..

[Lich]

I'm straight so I prefer looking at female ***.

[maidenhaver]

The novelty of looking up 2B's skirt wore off fast.

[Piggy]

Playing as sexy buttwoman bad

Playing as gay vampire who later gets railed by gay bear good

[KnightoftheWind]

Correlation does not imply causation. I'd wager anime, single parenthood, and the public school system has a greater effect on young boys becoming ******** than playing as Lara Croft, or as this character from Stellar Blade, can possibly do. You are employing the same logic as the age old "violent games causes violence" narrative. Although witnessing violent imagery does affect you in some way (negatively perhaps), it does not itself make you a killer or one that revels in real-world violence and suffering. So too does playing as an attractive woman in a game not make you a sodomite or a ******.

if you enjoy playing as a woman in a video game you are arguably an autogynephile, which is step one for many ******. When you play a game as a women, particularly one where you control her as if she was yourself, your character etc, you subconsciously view yourself as her. It is similar to how weebs use female anime pfps so often and then later ***** out: they aren't trying to be a *** initially, they just like that character, but after some time start they to view themselves as that attractive woman. Will you ***** out if you play as a female character? Not as likely as if you got groomed online, but it does play into it. Besides, why would anyone ever want to play as a woman in a vidya unless they were a ******? You really care about viewing a woman's story that much? If you want to get your rocks off just play a game where you **** a bimbo instead of being one. Besides, stellar blade has a precedent with Nier automata, a game with a pretty hot female, and look how that turned out. Coomers are just as bad as ****** half the time, and the two overlap.

That's a pretty bad take. Men can choose to play as a female character, even in an RPG, for many reasons, and none of them turn out ****** or sodomites in the end. For example, if I decide to play as an attractive female, Woof Elf thief in an Elder Scrolls game, with a backstory in mind, then that is playing with a purpose. I rarely if ever play as a self insert character in an RPG, I find that dull and pretty pointless. I always prefer playing as a separate, lore accurate character with at least a rudimentary "story" in mind. I will never think that Wood Elf was me, nor do I consider chopping my balls off and getting a pair of silicone breasts to compliment my beard. I also would not design a female character to fit any warrior archetypes, because females aren't warriors. They would only be suited to mage or rogue characters, ones that wear light gear and are more nimble.

This argument I'm seeing from you folks is shoddy at best, and bizarre at worst.

[WhiteShark]

For example, if I decide to play as an attractive female, Woof Elf thief in an Elder Scrolls game, with a backstory in mind, then that is playing with a purpose.

But do you actually play characters like this, or is this purely a hypothetical?

[rusty_shackleford]

admitting you play a female because you want to stare at the butt is admitting you spend all your time in games with mandatory male protagonists staring at his *** btw

[KnightoftheWind]

For example, if I decide to play as an attractive female, Woof Elf thief in an Elder Scrolls game, with a backstory in mind, then that is playing with a purpose.

But do you actually play characters like this, or is this purely a hypothetical?

Rarely, only if I'm in the mood for something different. But I suppose that makes a gay ******, so hey.

[Acrux]

Identifying with the character you are playing in an RPG is literally delusional behavior.

[Oyster Sauce]

I play male or female characters depending on what feels most appropriate and my desire to maintain my penis remains firm, intact, and solid.
Lara Croft is cool. Phyre is ********.

[Segata]

I play male or female characters depending on what feels most appropriate and my desire to maintain my penis remains firm, intact, and solid.

[KnightoftheWind]

According to HQ, this is not gay


But this is

[Magick]

admitting you play a female because you want to stare at the butt is admitting you spend all your time in games with mandatory male protagonists staring at his *** btw

Indeed. Never once when playing a game with a male MC have I thought "cor, I wish this was a female so the *** looks better..".
REALLY weird argument. Whatever game I'm playing I'm focusing on the GAME, not the character's arse, wtf?

Regardless, games like Stellar Blade with a female MC are not men "choosing" to play as women, they're just wanting to play the game. There's no more troonery here than Tomb Raider, Oni, Perfect Dark or Alien.
It's when people CHOOSE to play as a female, to fully customise it as their "fem" self etc. that sparks the troonery. Again it's fine in games that have different gameplay / story / choices depending on gender, can't see anything wrong with wanting to play both to see the differences, but unless fully for "RPG" purposes, it's a tad..weird if there's 0 gameplay difference and yet still choose to customise a female avatar. Especially if that's for closet *** reasons like being unable to peel one's eyes away from a male's rear..

[KnightoftheWind]

admitting you play a female because you want to stare at the butt is admitting you spend all your time in games with mandatory male protagonists staring at his *** btw

Indeed. Never once when playing a game with a male MC have I thought "cor, I wish this was a female so the *** looks better..".
REALLY weird argument. Whatever game I'm playing I'm focusing on the GAME, not the character's arse, wtf?

Regardless, games like Stellar Blade with a female MC are not men "choosing" to play as women, they're just wanting to play the game. There's no more troonery here than Tomb Raider, Oni, Perfect Dark or Alien.
It's when people CHOOSE to play as a female, to fully customise it as their "fem" self etc. that sparks the troonery. Again it's fine in games that have different gameplay / story / choices depending on gender, can't see anything wrong with wanting to play both to see the differences, but unless fully for "RPG" purposes, it's a tad..weird if there's 0 gameplay difference and yet still choose to customise a female avatar. Especially if that's for closet *** reasons like being unable to peel one's eyes away from a male's rear..

I've never seen a more insecure bunch. When I made the comment of "looking at a man's *** for 10+ hours of gametime", I did not mean that in a literal sense. Nobody stares at the main character's *** the entire time you're playing a game, you wouldn't be able to play it if you did so. What I mean is, wouldn't it be more preferable to look at a woman's backside, in the off chance that your eyes happen to meet?. I would figure, being a normal man, that would be preferable. Or at the very least, wouldn't cause you to be so insecure and paranoid you would consider the very act of playing as an attractive woman to be tantamount to sodomy. Just think about that for a minute, would you?.

[Magick]

Absolutely not. When playing a game with (only) female MC's I may shortly admire the feminine form if they look nice, but I'm not really be bothered either way as long as it's not repulsive. When I'm playing with a male MC I'll just...not notice it? I honestly don't bother looking at or acknowledging the arse or the male at all. That's why I find it a little weird I've ALWAYS seen that specific argument for years upon years, about not wanting to look at a man's arse etc. Again, wouldn't you be mostly focusing on the game and that being what matters, rather than the char you're playing as? Why would you even be looking at the man's arse at all?

(I see the "looking at a man's arse" thing as being equally as silly as "you're gay/***** if you play as a female MC in a female-only MC game", btw. Both sound like they come from closeted insecurities, to me).

[aweigh]

I only agree that playing as a female character is bad insofar as it relates to SJWs wanting to FORCE YOU to play as an annoying ugly **** in every game.

I will literally always play as a male character just to unironically "own the libs".

However, when the female character is hot and sexy like in Stellar Blade this is extremely repulsive to leftist SJWs, and they would LOVE to prevent you from EVER playing any game with an attractive female character, they wish they could do anything possible to ugly-fy every single female character in existence and force you to play as ugly, bullish muscle-bound *****, and when a man enjoys looking at an attractive female character in a video game it makes them SEETHE with demonic rage.

So for that reason it is not only perfectly acceptable to play Stellar Blade but it is also "doing your part" in making SJWs seethe, and that is what every choice should revolve around: making SJWs seethe and BTFO.

[Tweed]

Does looking at your own *** in the mirror make you gay? I don't mean taking time out of your day to inspect your *** like a woman would, but is seeing your own bare-naked *** in the mirror a gateway to faggotry? Because all I ever hear from people who turn out to be ******* and ****** is that they don't want to stare at a guy's *** when they play games and yet they end up down the path of devious lifestyles.

[KnightoftheWind]

Does looking at your own *** in the mirror make you gay? I don't mean taking time out of your day to inspect your *** like a woman would, but is seeing your own bare-naked *** in the mirror a gateway to faggotry? Because all I ever hear from people who turn out to be ******* and ****** is that they don't want to stare at a guy's *** when they play games and yet they end up down the path of devious lifestyles.

This rhetoric is beginning to reek of a psyop. You know what those ******** hate most?, seeing real, attractive women in games and film. That's always the first thing they complain about, before anything else, and you're sitting there telling people they're gay if they play as an attractive woman?. I'm not buying it for a minute, and anyone who does think that is a **** fool.

[Vergil]

You know what those ******** hate most?, seeing real, attractive women in games and film. That's always the first thing they complain about, before anything else

That's mostly real women who do that ******** love pornographic whores in fiction that they can imagine themselves as and jack off to.

[Oyster Sauce]

Does looking at your own *** in the mirror make you gay? I don't mean taking time out of your day to inspect your *** like a woman would, but is seeing your own bare-naked *** in the mirror a gateway to faggotry? Because all I ever hear from people who turn out to be ******* and ****** is that they don't want to stare at a guy's *** when they play games and yet they end up down the path of devious lifestyles.

This rhetoric is beginning to reek of a psyop. You know what those ******** hate most?, seeing real, attractive women in games and film. That's always the first thing they complain about, before anything else, and you're sitting there telling people they're gay if they play as an attractive woman?. I'm not buying it for a minute, and anyone who does think that is a **** fool.

They don't hate attractive women in games. They don't use makeup options on male characters, they make whatever women they jerk off to.

[KnightoftheWind]

You know what those ******** hate most?, seeing real, attractive women in games and film. That's always the first thing they complain about, before anything else

That's mostly real women who do that ******** love pornographic whores in fiction that they can imagine themselves as and jack off to.

I doubt that, maybe in some cases, but I would imagine if you were an insecure ******, which most of them are, they would feel remarkably inferior to real, attractive women. I doubt any of them look at Lara Croft and picture themselves as her, but they sure would with characters like Abby, and Aloy. The latter is even compared to Nicokado Avocado for goodness sake, can't get much gayer than that. On their **** list, attractive normal women are #1, and strong normal men are #2. Always.

[Magick]

Tbh as said before I really think the "gateway *****" stuff is where you design your OWN character, where they design and play as their ideal female selves etc.
Just as I didn't see anything in Goldeneye. I didn't see that as "me" or "Pierce Brosnan", it was just James Bond, a pre-designed third-party char who I happened to control. (And no, I didn't once notice his *** in the cutscenes at all, either..)

I doubt many are going to see their ideal female self in some half-anime thing based on some tiny Korean girl.. So I don't think there's any gay in that.
******** and feminists would absolutely want to corrupt that into total uggo, though, hence the hate on the char when all they're doing is hating on a real woman lol.
Joanna Dark, Lara Croft and Ripley didn't turn a host of elder millenial men *****. That all came later with the "Design your own character" stuff.


All the call for "representation" and "seeing their selves in" uggo / LGBT pre-designed chars aren't them really seeing anything in them, they're just not a "threat", and a way for them to spread their rot.

[Vergil]

I doubt many are going to see their ideal female self in some half-anime thing based on some tiny Korean girl..

******** make anime and female game characters their pfps and obsess over them all the time. They all want to be tiny half anime girls that's why they dress like ******* and dye their hair.

[Magick]

I doubt many are going to see their ideal female self in some half-anime thing based on some tiny Korean girl..

******** make anime and female game characters their pfps and obsess over them all the time. They all want to be tiny half anime girls that's why they dress like ******* and dye their hair.

Yeah but that's the custom variants though isn't it? Their "ideal self", not some 3rd party designed one based on an actual Real Woman lol. If anything they'd seethe at that.

[KnightoftheWind]

But if that was indeed the case, we would be seeing 'more' attractive female characters, not less. ******** are a higher class than feminists, so what appeals to them are taken into consideration more by the Regime. Instead, I used to see ******** talk about characters like Bridget from Guilty Gear, and even Link from the recent Zeldas. Highly effeminate male characters, and the former was outright stated to be a ***** recently. You are correct about anime girls and self-inserts in RPGs, I think that pipeline is quite real. Especially when even the male characters are made to look as feminine as possible in anime, on purpose. But choosing to play as a female character in and of itself isn't a bad thing.