I'm just assuming, isn't the lack of 'female representation' in the setting used to highlight the need for feminism in a preachy way?
Not sure about how they depict it other than Henry being bossed around by STRONG WOMEN. But even Warhorse's intentions feels more sinister than Larian's. At least BG3 isn't doing real life historical revisionism, yet still claiming to be historically accurate Maybe I'm still just really mad about the 180 from Warhorse
Not sure about how they depict it other than Henry being bossed around by STRONG WOMEN.
Yes, that's what I mean.
Whenever **** make a (vaguely) historically accurate setting it tends to be followed by "and this is why it was a bad thing," as they paint it as bleak and cruel as possible, or use the setting to highlight why modern environments, dominated by them, are better.
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I'm just assuming, isn't the lack of 'female representation' in the setting used to highlight the need for feminism in a preachy way?
Not sure about how they depict it other than Henry being bossed around by STRONG WOMEN. But even Warhorse's intentions feels more sinister than Larian's. At least BG3 isn't doing real life historical revisionism, yet still claiming to be historically accurate Maybe I'm still just really mad about the 180 from Warhorse
It's not only your heart speaking on this, I have not played Kingdom Come yet, but, though I thought of Baldur's Gate 3 as being worse during the leak period, now I can clearly see that what they did to what was supposed to be a great sequel is far worse. It seems to be like playing through one of those horrid "modern" TV series made for women that I see the likes of HeelvsBabyface make fun of. Watching one would be horrid, having to actually play through one is far worse in my opinion, especially without any option to fight back as the NPCs there are unkillable compared to the options Baldur's Gate 3 gives (though I expect them to be very limited in their consequences in Act 3).
Honestly, if fantasy writers love their DnD girlbosses so much, why don't they set a game in a drow society? There you'd have a canonical matriarchy, all the girl bosses you could want and everyone's black to boot, so you get triple divershitty points from the DEI overlords.
If it's sufficiently dark and gritty it might even have an interesting storyline.
And yet they always insist on ******** up the overworld nations for some reason.
Honestly, if fantasy writers love their DnD girlbosses so much, why don't they set a game in a drow society? There you'd have a canonical matriarchy, all the girl bosses you could want and everyone's black to boot, so you get triple divershitty points from the DEI overlords.
If it's sufficiently dark and gritty it might even have an interesting storyline.
And yet they always insist on ******** up the overworld nations for some reason.
I imagine that the reason libtard authors don't want to touch drow society may be because this underground society that aligns perfectly with their own real-life worldview are rightfully considered evil both in-story and by the wider playerbase.
Afaik, Gygax created the drow as a way to display how horrible a society ruled by women would look like, which again, is something that I'm sure the libtards would have an issue with.
Honestly, if fantasy writers love their DnD girlbosses so much, why don't they set a game in a drow society? There you'd have a canonical matriarchy, all the girl bosses you could want and everyone's black to boot, so you get triple divershitty points from the DEI overlords.
If it's sufficiently dark and gritty it might even have an interesting storyline.
And yet they always insist on ******** up the overworld nations for some reason.
I imagine that the reason libtard authors don't want to touch drow society may be because this underground society that aligns perfectly with their own real-life worldview are rightfully considered evil both in-story and by the wider playerbase.
Afaik, Gygax created the drow as a way to display how horrible a society ruled by women would look like, which again, is something that I'm sure the libtards would have an issue with.
I think they did try as Drizzt exists, "not all Drow are evil" being pushed because of this and also how "some Drow can have different hair colors" (as well as some more recent "lore" where there are some "Drow" that come from the surface and are just like elves or something). I think the reason they really can't do much about it is truly because it hits too close to home for their own behavior, so they have to latch onto other targets (like gnomes, goblins, tieflings, etc).
Something I noticed (especially with Nere, for example) is that they are trying to make Drow "white", and though it is a matriarchal society, the males, like Nere, are the only ones appearing in-game as a direct enemy, employing slaves, etc.
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Something I noticed (especially with Nere, for example) is that they are trying to make Drow "white", and though it is a matriarchal society, the males, like Nere, are the only ones appearing in-game as a direct enemy, employing slaves, etc.
Yeah that figures. Reminds me about how the final boss of that Unknown 9 slop flop had a blonde Elon Musk as the evil final boss.
Something I noticed (especially with Nere, for example) is that they are trying to make Drow "white", and though it is a matriarchal society, the males, like Nere, are the only ones appearing in-game as a direct enemy, employing slaves, etc.
The potion maker - Araj Oblodra - is disgustingly black (and not by the skin color). And she is not a "good" one - a crazy with vampire kink. Also more involved than Nere.
Just saying.
Something I noticed (especially with Nere, for example) is that they are trying to make Drow "white", and though it is a matriarchal society, the males, like Nere, are the only ones appearing in-game as a direct enemy, employing slaves, etc.
The potion maker - Araj Oblodra - is disgustingly black (and not by the skin color). And she is not a "good" one - a crazy with vampire kink. Also more involved than Nere.
Just saying.
I forgot about her! Thank you for reminding me
I don't recall her being in command of anything though, just an alchemist from a dead house that mixed with Illithids, I wonder if she is a "leftover" of what was in the game before. She can also be found again later in Baldur's Gate city proper in Act 3 where she explodes things making potions using blood.
Honestly, if fantasy writers love their DnD girlbosses so much, why don't they set a game in a drow society? There you'd have a canonical matriarchy, all the girl bosses you could want and everyone's black to boot, so you get triple divershitty points from the DEI overlords.
If it's sufficiently dark and gritty it might even have an interesting storyline.
And yet they always insist on ******** up the overworld nations for some reason.
I imagine that the reason libtard authors don't want to touch drow society may be because this underground society that aligns perfectly with their own real-life worldview are rightfully considered evil both in-story and by the wider playerbase.
Afaik, Gygax created the drow as a way to display how horrible a society ruled by women would look like, which again, is something that I'm sure the libtards would have an issue with.
I think the goal was to turn Baldur's Gate city into a melting pot. It looks like the original intent was to have Lae'zel be the crown Jewel of BG3, but the real life social contagion during the 6 years of production saw to it that we'd get faggoty beta males, and bossy females for companions, and rainbow propaganda once we get to the city.
Honestly, if fantasy writers love their DnD girlbosses so much, why don't they set a game in a drow society? There you'd have a canonical matriarchy, all the girl bosses you could want and everyone's black to boot, so you get triple divershitty points from the DEI overlords.
If it's sufficiently dark and gritty it might even have an interesting storyline.
And yet they always insist on ******** up the overworld nations for some reason.
I imagine that the reason libtard authors don't want to touch drow society may be because this underground society that aligns perfectly with their own real-life worldview are rightfully considered evil both in-story and by the wider playerbase.
Afaik, Gygax created the drow as a way to display how horrible a society ruled by women would look like, which again, is something that I'm sure the libtards would have an issue with.
I think the goal was to turn Baldur's Gate city into a melting pot. It looks like the original intent was to have Lae'zel be the crown Jewel of BG3, but the real life social contagion during the 6 years of production saw to it that we'd get faggoty beta males, and bossy females for companions, and rainbow propaganda once we get to the city.
It's actually tragic that Skyrim of all games has so far had the best example of an actual port city, with Windhelm.
I don't think people realise that foreigners live in their own ghettos.
I forgot about her! Thank you for reminding me
I don't recall her being in command of anything though, just an alchemist from a dead house that mixed with Illithids, I wonder if she is a "leftover" of what was in the game before. She can also be found again later in Baldur's Gate city proper in Act 3 where she explodes things making potions using blood.
I forgot about her! Thank you for reminding me
I don't recall her being in command of anything though, just an alchemist from a dead house that mixed with Illithids, I wonder if she is a "leftover" of what was in the game before. She can also be found again later in Baldur's Gate city proper in Act 3 where she explodes things making potions using blood.
Wtf I've never seen her?
Do you normally kill or not recruit Astarion? She adds to Astarion's personal quest and relationships — both romantic and friendly/rivalry. She’s also easy to miss if you don’t check every room in Moonrise Tower during your first infiltration.
My point is, the devs designed all DnD races to have Negroid, Mongoloid, and Caucasoid representatives, with a heavy emphasis on Negroids.
The potion maker - Araj Oblodra - is disgustingly black (and not by the skin color). And she is not a "good" one - a crazy with vampire kink. Also more involved than Nere.
Just saying.
Nope, she's blue - which is even worse. Blue "dark" elves belong in TES, and only there. They do NOT belong in D&D.
Granted, she has an appearance which is totally un-immersive if considering how the Oblodra really looks (/looked) like; see the Menzoberranzan box set to get an idea (which is not African-American).
But the worst atrocity done by Larian against the drow in this game is their insane idea that the drow need to be grey/blue (or albino; of course, Nere has to be a white man to be evil enough).
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I forgot about her! Thank you for reminding me
I don't recall her being in command of anything though, just an alchemist from a dead house that mixed with Illithids, I wonder if she is a "leftover" of what was in the game before. She can also be found again later in Baldur's Gate city proper in Act 3 where she explodes things making potions using blood.
Wtf I've never seen her?
She is a bit hard to find, but she is located inside the towers place in one of the adjacent rooms (you will see alchemical equipment and ominous lights).
Found a map that is far better than my poor attempt at explaining
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For when found in Baldur's Gate city
I personally really like her character and, though she does have the African face, I think the look she has gives her a certain beauty when seen as a whole and not in its singular parts. Her nose is the only thing I would change as it is clearly African and unsuited for a Drow.
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Watch out for Halsin he'll bear rape you in your sleep if you don't roll a Nat 20
that has never happened to me
I'm getting real sick and tired of seeing all the fliers at the inn with date-rape spell PSAs. If you don't wear a ring that grants immunity to sleep when you go tavern hopping, you're just asking for it.
The potion maker - Araj Oblodra - is disgustingly black (and not by the skin color). And she is not a "good" one - a crazy with vampire kink. Also more involved than Nere.
Just saying.
Nope, she's blue - which is even worse. Blue "dark" elves belong in TES, and only there. They do NOT belong in D&D.
Granted, she has an appearance which is totally un-immersive if considering how the Oblodra really looks (/looked) like; see the Menzoberranzan box set to get an idea (which is not African-American).
But the worst atrocity done by Larian against the drow in this game is their insane idea that the drow need to be grey/blue (or albino; of course, Nere has to be a white man to be evil enough).
The potion maker - Araj Oblodra - is disgustingly black (and not by the skin color). And she is not a "good" one - a crazy with vampire kink. Also more involved than Nere.
Just saying.
Nope, she's blue - which is even worse. Blue "dark" elves belong in TES, and only there. They do NOT belong in D&D.
Granted, she has an appearance which is totally un-immersive if considering how the Oblodra really looks (/looked) like; see the Menzoberranzan box set to get an idea (which is not African-American).
But the worst atrocity done by Larian against the drow in this game is their insane idea that the drow need to be grey/blue (or albino; of course, Nere has to be a white man to be evil enough).
Is it true that if you recruit Minthara while being a 'good guy' (aka knocking her *** out instead of killing her at the Goblin Camp then picking her up in Act 2) that eventually Halsin will force you to choose between him and her? Please let this be true, I will drop that tree-******* sex pest in a heartbeat.
Also, something I've noticed on my current playthrough. I'm playing as a Githyanki and hoo boy was the game not intended for a Githyanki Tav/Dark Urge. I'm pretty sure all the [Githyanki] dialogue options were intended for Origin Lae'zel Playthroughs because the companions ambient dialogue talking about my character and Lae'zel 'hooking up' made it sound like my character was a non-gith.
Skyrim Belongs to the Nords.
Geek the Mage first.
There is no virtue in extending mercy to those who want you dead.
Justice will prevail, you say? But of course it will! Whoever wins this war becomes justice!
Is it true that if you recruit Minthara while being a 'good guy' (aka knocking her *** out instead of killing her at the Goblin Camp then picking her up in Act 2) that eventually Halsin will force you to choose between him and her? Please let this be true, I will drop that tree-******* sex pest in a heartbeat.
Also, something I've noticed on my current playthrough. I'm playing as a Githyanki and hoo boy was the game not intended for a Githyanki Tav/Dark Urge. I'm pretty sure all the [Githyanki] dialogue options were intended for Origin Lae'zel Playthroughs because the companions ambient dialogue talking about my character and Lae'zel 'hooking up' made it sound like my character was a non-gith.
My first playthrough was exactly that. I knocked her out in the camp, got that sexpest piece of ****, then I got her in Act 2 but I had no dialogue, instead the game just bugged and had both their tents clip into eachother while they stood next to eachother. ******* hated it. I also hate the fact that out of all the ******* people he is the only one to resolve the Act 2 stuff in a positive manner.
Is it true that if you recruit Minthara while being a 'good guy' (aka knocking her *** out instead of killing her at the Goblin Camp then picking her up in Act 2) that eventually Halsin will force you to choose between him and her? Please let this be true, I will drop that tree-******* sex pest in a heartbeat.
Also, something I've noticed on my current playthrough. I'm playing as a Githyanki and hoo boy was the game not intended for a Githyanki Tav/Dark Urge. I'm pretty sure all the [Githyanki] dialogue options were intended for Origin Lae'zel Playthroughs because the companions ambient dialogue talking about my character and Lae'zel 'hooking up' made it sound like my character was a non-gith.
My first playthrough was exactly that. I knocked her out in the camp, got that sexpest piece of ****, then I got her in Act 2 but I had no dialogue, instead the game just bugged and had both their tents clip into eachother while they stood next to eachother. ******* hated it. I also hate the fact that out of all the ******* people he is the only one to resolve the Act 2 stuff in a positive manner.
Thing is, I'm perfectly willing to put up with him long enough so he can deal with the Shadow Curse and whatnot. *Then* go to Moonrise and get Minthara. And this should no longer be bugged, but I have heard that you cannot go to Act 3 with both Halsin and Minthara so I figured there was probably a 'Me or Her' decision now.
Skyrim Belongs to the Nords.
Geek the Mage first.
There is no virtue in extending mercy to those who want you dead.
Justice will prevail, you say? But of course it will! Whoever wins this war becomes justice!
Is it true that if you recruit Minthara while being a 'good guy' (aka knocking her *** out instead of killing her at the Goblin Camp then picking her up in Act 2) that eventually Halsin will force you to choose between him and her? Please let this be true, I will drop that tree-******* sex pest in a heartbeat.
Also, something I've noticed on my current playthrough. I'm playing as a Githyanki and hoo boy was the game not intended for a Githyanki Tav/Dark Urge. I'm pretty sure all the [Githyanki] dialogue options were intended for Origin Lae'zel Playthroughs because the companions ambient dialogue talking about my character and Lae'zel 'hooking up' made it sound like my character was a non-gith.
My first playthrough was exactly that. I knocked her out in the camp, got that sexpest piece of ****, then I got her in Act 2 but I had no dialogue, instead the game just bugged and had both their tents clip into eachother while they stood next to eachother. ******* hated it. I also hate the fact that out of all the ******* people he is the only one to resolve the Act 2 stuff in a positive manner.
Thing is, I'm perfectly willing to put up with him long enough so he can deal with the Shadow Curse and whatnot. *Then* go to Moonrise and get Minthara. And this should no longer be bugged, but I have heard that you cannot go to Act 3 with both Halsin and Minthara so I figured there was probably a 'Me or Her' decision now.
Is it true that if you recruit Minthara while being a 'good guy' (aka knocking her *** out instead of killing her at the Goblin Camp then picking her up in Act 2) that eventually Halsin will force you to choose between him and her? Please let this be true, I will drop that tree-******* sex pest in a heartbeat.
No, it is not, they perfectly coexist. Argue, yes, but even less than Lae'zel/Sart. However (!) you can always arrange Halsin's kidnapping by Orin.
Blue "dark" elves belong in TES, and only there. They do NOT belong in D&D. 
