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RangerBoo wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 01:48
stormvermin wrote: ↑ July 24th, 2025, 23:44
Also, @RangerBoo you can find Lidl crashing out at the end of the page if that's of interest to you.
Yeah, the dumb hole got mad at Josh calling censorious feminists ******** holes. It ended up intellectually defeating her. I have the screen. It is super funny and the lack of self actualization at her screed over how all the good posters are now gone when she was the one who chased them off or got them banned will never not be funny to me.
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>You're one of the good ones" as long as you do/say what he wants only
>Going full butthurt and hysterical. Dehumanizing an entire gender just because some man doesn't do/say what she wants and calls her "meanie nicknames.
Does this hole even realize she's literally describing and exposing herself?
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Roguey wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 15:16
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 15:12
Surely you'd agree that if they included something illegal on the disk that they'd be liable, yes? Like say it included child pornography the person who put it there should be liable…?
Why the **** would anyone put something illegal in a game in the first place?

Something similar happened with a couple of Disney movies. In The Rescuers, an animator put in a photo of a topless woman in one scene. In Who Framed Roger Rabbit there's a frame of Jessica Rabbit where you get an upskirt shot showing she's not wearing any underwear. All the lads at the time found this hilarious, Disney editing these out for the home video releases was seen as lame.
You dodged my question.
Surely you'd agree there would be blame in this case rather than just saying "ah well it was never meant to be found"?
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Trickster wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 15:18
RangerBoo wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 01:48
stormvermin wrote: ↑ July 24th, 2025, 23:44
Also, @RangerBoo you can find Lidl crashing out at the end of the page if that's of interest to you.
Yeah, the dumb hole got mad at Josh calling censorious feminists ******** holes. It ended up intellectually defeating her. I have the screen. It is super funny and the lack of self actualization at her screed over how all the good posters are now gone when she was the one who chased them off or got them banned will never not be funny to me.
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You're one of the good ones" as long as you do/say what he wants only
>Going full butthurt and hysterical. Dehumanizing an entire gender just because some man doesn't do/say what she wants and calls her "meanie nicknames.

Does this hole even realize she's literally describing and exposing herself?
kiwifarms is foid colonized territory, AFAIK she's head foid and forces null to do whatever she wants
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 15:19
You dodged my question.
Surely you'd agree there would be blame in this case rather than just saying "ah well it was never meant to be found"?
If some weirdo puts something illegal in a game, that particular person is liable for their illegal actions.
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Roguey wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 15:21
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 15:19
You dodged my question.
Surely you'd agree there would be blame in this case rather than just saying "ah well it was never meant to be found"?
If some weirdo puts something illegal in a game, that particular person is liable for their illegal actions.
So you agree that it merely being on the disk is important then
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 15:19
Trickster wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 15:18
RangerBoo wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 01:48


Yeah, the dumb hole got mad at Josh calling censorious feminists ******** holes. It ended up intellectually defeating her. I have the screen. It is super funny and the lack of self actualization at her screed over how all the good posters are now gone when she was the one who chased them off or got them banned will never not be funny to me.
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You're one of the good ones" as long as you do/say what he wants only
>Going full butthurt and hysterical. Dehumanizing an entire gender just because some man doesn't do/say what she wants and calls her "meanie nicknames.

Does this hole even realize she's literally describing and exposing herself?
kiwifarms is foid colonized territory, AFAIK she's head foid and forces null to do whatever she wants
This is becoming ridiculous. The whole situation on Steam is an attempt by a group of feminists, embittered by life and by men, to control the sexuality of heterosexual people, especially men. And yet they still have the audacity to gaslight and say that men are trying to control them. An astonishing absence of self-awareness.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 15:22
So you agree that it merely being on the disk is important then
The person who put the illegal content on there likely has it in their possession and should be locked up. But I wouldn't be concerned at all about acquiring every copy and destroying it, that's overkill, particularly if the files are locked away in such a manner that a normal person can't access them. With Hot Coffee, an American modder had to send the code to a Dutch guy because it was beyond his capability to unlock it.
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Trickster wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 15:28
The whole situation on Steam is an attempt by a group of feminists, embittered by life and by men, to control the sexuality of heterosexual people, especially men.
This is certainly the surface level explanation. But in reality these femiturds are mere tools, used as a wedge to implant the idea in your mind that it is a-ok to debank you for whatever current day defines as wrongthink.
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Decline wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 15:39
Trickster wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 15:28
The whole situation on Steam is an attempt by a group of feminists, embittered by life and by men, to control the sexuality of heterosexual people, especially men.
This is certainly the surface level explanation. But in reality these femiturds are mere tools, used as a wedge to implant the idea in your mind that it is a-ok to debank you for whatever current day defines as wrongthink.
debanking would actually be good if I were the sole person deciding who gets debanked
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RangerBoo wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 09:08
if Rusty goes down the same path as Null
*If*?

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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 15:41
Decline wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 15:39
Trickster wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 15:28
The whole situation on Steam is an attempt by a group of feminists, embittered by life and by men, to control the sexuality of heterosexual people, especially men.
This is certainly the surface level explanation. But in reality these femiturds are mere tools, used as a wedge to implant the idea in your mind that it is a-ok to debank you for whatever current day defines as wrongthink.
debanking would actually be good if I were the sole person deciding who gets debanked
If with I you mean me then I'd agree.

Unfortunately in the financial sector being able to make decisions is strongly correlated with being a disgusting degenerate with a propensity to screw others over (figuratively and literally). Therefore the solution is to get rid of the human factor in finance completely and trust math and nothing but math.
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WhiteShark wrote: July 26th, 2025, 02:17
Roguey wrote: July 26th, 2025, 02:03
I decided to uncheck "adult only sexual content" box in my Steam store preferences (I didn't particularly care about seeing it) and now I haven't seen a single porn game on the store. Getting the impression you guys who have complained about it are just plain lying about your experience. Fiends with no self-control who can't actually uncheck the box.
Getting the impression you didn't look and are lying about your experience. Even with all unboxes unchecked, all I had to do was do a search with the JRPG tag and scroll down a bit:


The first game has JRPG as the 15th most popular tag according to SteamDB. How much of a coomer are you

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Decline wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 15:47
Unfortunately in the financial sector being able to make decisions is strongly correlated with being a disgusting degenerate. Therefore the solution is to get rid of the human factor in finance completely and trust math and nothing but math.
a lot of claimed political debanking is just math when you look into it, see e.g., my comment on anglin earlier in the thread
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Rumbles wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 15:48
The first game has JRPG as the 15th most popular tag according to SteamDB. How much of a coomer are you
search doesn't discriminate on how popular the tag is for the game, just whether it's there or not
which makes tags almost pointless
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 15:49
Rumbles wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 15:48
The first game has JRPG as the 15th most popular tag according to SteamDB. How much of a coomer are you
search doesn't discriminate on how popular the tag is for the game, just whether it's there or not
which makes tags almost pointless
It does if I search by the main category (I assume he browsed JRPG without lies). There is an algorithm that quantifies popularity but accounts tags as well. Even if you sort by top rated, the algorithm is a mysterious, Persona 4 is behind Persona 5 for example, despite having 0.3 higher percentage point rating. He either used left side filters to get a desired result or just handpicked games
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RangerBoo wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 01:48
stormvermin wrote: ↑ July 24th, 2025, 23:44
Also, @RangerBoo you can find Lidl crashing out at the end of the page if that's of interest to you.
Yeah, the dumb hole got mad at Josh calling censorious feminists ******** holes. It ended up intellectually defeating her. I have the screen. It is super funny and the lack of self actualization at her screed over how all the good posters are now gone when she was the one who chased them off or got them banned will never not be funny to me.
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Men are 'un-personed' by default and this ******** hole is crying that all men need to respect all women, no matter what they do.
Women like this ultimately understand they are ******** holes and like the ones that are being attacked.
She's already taking for granted just how much people put her on a pedestal over the average man and she's still complaining.
The irony is that the more they act like this, the more their fate is sealed.
So you convince all women that all men are serial killers, what then? Import more Muslims/ Latino gangs?
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Rumbles wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 15:56
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 15:49
Rumbles wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 15:48
The first game has JRPG as the 15th most popular tag according to SteamDB. How much of a coomer are you
search doesn't discriminate on how popular the tag is for the game, just whether it's there or not
which makes tags almost pointless
It does if I search by the main category (I assume he browsed JRPG without lies). There is an algorithm that quantifies popularity but accounts tags as well. Even if you sort by top rated, the algorithm is a mysterious, Persona 4 is behind Persona 5 for example, despite having 0.3 higher percentage point rating. He either used left side filters to get a desired result or just handpicked games
idk but searching jrpg with filters disabled has porn games near the top
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Roguey wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 15:37
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 15:22
So you agree that it merely being on the disk is important then
The person who put the illegal content on there likely has it in their possession and should be locked up. But I wouldn't be concerned at all about acquiring every copy and destroying it, that's overkill, particularly if the files are locked away in such a manner that a normal person can't access them. With Hot Coffee, an American modder had to send the code to a Dutch guy because it was beyond his capability to unlock it.
"one guy couldn't figure it out so another guy capable of figuring it out did it"

OK? So? First link I found on a website I've never heard of before has over 7 million downloads. Normal persons are absolutely capable of accessing them.
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ArcaneLurker wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 15:58
So you convince all women that all men are serial killers, what then? Import more Muslims/ Latino gangs?
A.K.A.: The Europeon solution.
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Decline wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 16:01
ArcaneLurker wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 15:58
So you convince all women that all men are serial killers, what then? Import more Muslims/ Latino gangs?
A.K.A.: The Europeon solution.
European solution + American solution
Canadian & Australian solution is import more Indians
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Rumbles wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 15:48
The first game has JRPG as the 15th most popular tag according to SteamDB. How much of a coomer are you
I already explained how to replicate it, but it seems pornbrains would rather slander me than verify it.

Uncheck all boxes for adult content etc. Do a search. Filter by JRPG tag. Don't enter any keywords. Scroll down a bit.

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Roguey wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 15:16
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 15:12
Surely you'd agree that if they included something illegal on the disk that they'd be liable, yes? Like say it included child pornography the person who put it there should be liable…?
Why the **** would anyone put something illegal in a game in the first place?

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Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 15:59
"one guy couldn't figure it out so another guy capable of figuring it out did it"

OK? So? First link I found on a website I've never heard of before has over 7 million downloads. Normal persons are absolutely capable of accessing them.
Imagine a parent who is perfectly fine with buying their kid a copy of San Andreas with all its "Blood and Gore, Intense Violence, Nudity, Strong Language, Strong Sexual Content, Use of Drugs" but then you find out that he downloaded and loaded up a mod that unlocks goofy looking animated sex scenes and you just absolutely lose it. I cannot take this kind of person seriously.
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Stack of Turtles wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 05:32
Condensing laws is generally bad because the exact wording matters.
Well then it's good I literally copied the part of the law that includes payment processors and gave a link to the law, right?
The effectuous wording of this bill makes no reference to political or social risk considerations, but makes it a civil cause of action for any bank to deny financial services (which are defined to include lending!) to anyone at all unless the bank can PROVE, affirmatively, that both 1) the denial is justified by objective, "quantitative [and] impartial" standards
What do you think "quantitative and impartial standards" are supposed to exclude? Could it possibly be the the decidely non-impartial standards in section 5?

Also, anything in a bill that makes it a legally binding instrument is "effectuous wording", regardless who is supposed to enforce it or whether it is optional or compulsory. If you feel the need to quibble over details, at least do it correctly.

(I'd also argue that just pressuring the banks would also indirectly put pressure on the payment processors, since the banks will quickly realize that they only have this headache due to Visa and Mastercard ******* around again.)
credit scores are determined by three federally recognized entities which are not banks, so a judge can easily conclude that any denial based on credit scores β€” for just one example! β€” is "in coordination with [...] others", without even having to reach the question of whether they are quantitative and impartial
Ah, so we can add banks to the list of things you don't understand.

You realize that credit scores do not automatically result in an acceptance or a declination of a loan, right? The determination of whether the loan is granted or not is still with the bank. (At least you skipped the request part in your argument, so I don't have to explain to you that credit scores are not a request to grant or refuse a loan.)

This is also where your argument falls apart. The portion "may not deny, in coordination with or at the request of others," is important, since the credit bureau makes no statement one way or another if a loan should be granted or not, particularly since they might not even give the credit score directly but only provide the credit data to the banks, who can calculate the score themselves (and do, if they like to set different standards).

Your argument would be legally coherent (if still incredibly asinine, since no information save what the bank procures personally could be used) if the credit bureaus made an actual statement saying "Yes, you should grant this loan" or "no, you shouldn't grant this loan", but they don't.

It gets even worse if you remember that how sufficient a credit score is in the eye of the bank depends on the requested loan. A low loan might be granted even with a lower score, while a higher one will likely be rejected.
all it does is authorize the Comptroller of the Currency to levy a fine of up to $10,000, not exceeding 10% of the value of services impacted, if he feels like it.
The "shall" in "shall be assessed a civil penalty" states that the assessment and penalty is compulsory.

Forget reading legal bills, I'm having doubts about your ability to read a dictionary.
so, while it's true that the language applies even if Visa indirectly tells your bank (presumably a member institution of the network) that you're not allowed to have a Visa card, that fine can still only be levied on Visa, not the bank.
Considering the problem at hand is caused by Visa, this is a problem how?
That's chump change if it even gets assessed in practice at all.
I'm sure Steam and Co would be very eager to tell the relevant authorities exactly how much they're losing out on due to this policy. In fact, let's add just about every single crowdfunding website to that too, since they'd also be covered. The individual fine for each incident might be comparatively small, collectively it would be quite a bit since the limit only applies to each individual case and not collectively, and that ignores any other effects of the bill. Who wouldn't want a piece of Visa's wallet?

I'm sure Visa and Co would just be absolutely thrilled to have their legal departments constantly deal with the administrator of the federal banking system putting fine after fine on them. This wouldn't bog them down at all.
I do complain about those, but I don't want to add even more loopholes for them either.
I'm really curious how this law might be used in your case, without the example running afoul of any other legislation. How could you reach that conclusion without just pretending that the judge in question is as legally illiterate as you seem to be and doesn't get overruled before the ink on the order is dry? Because your loophole only exists so long as the judge in question is insane, and no law ever crafted can help you against that.

Honestly, I'm surprised you can read well enough to even use this website. I guess your reading disability is just very selective?
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SoLong wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 18:09
What do you think "quantitative and impartial standards" are supposed to exclude? Could it possibly be the the decidely non-impartial standards in section 5?
It doesn't matter what it's "supposed to exclude". It matters what it SAYS, and how judges will use that. Section 8 gives anyone free rein to sue banks for allegedly not providing fair access to financial service, on any basis judges will accept. Even the threat of FAILED lawsuits, and the expense of defending them, has what's called a "chilling effect", meaning banks will most likely change their behavior to avoid anything that their in-house lawyers could potentially put them in court, meaning, the effects of this law WILL spread far beyond what you predict.
Also, anything in a bill that makes it a legally binding instrument is "effectuous wording", regardless who is supposed to enforce it or whether it is optional or compulsory.
That's simply not true. For a law to have any effect, it must be enforced by someone and there must be a penalty for violating it. As they say in that one TV show that used to be popular, words are wind when winter is coming.
(I'd also argue that just pressuring the banks would also indirectly put pressure on the payment processors, since the banks will quickly realize that they only have this headache due to Visa and Mastercard ******* around again.)
Sure, I don't dispute that that can happen.
You realize that credit scores do not automatically result in an acceptance or a declination of a loan, right? The determination of whether the loan is granted or not is still with the bank. (At least you skipped the request part in your argument, so I don't have to explain to you that credit scores are not a request to grant or refuse a loan.)

This is also where your argument falls apart. The portion "may not deny, in coordination with or at the request of others," is important, since the credit bureau makes no statement one way or another if a loan should be granted or not, particularly since they might not even give the credit score directly but only provide the credit data to the banks, who can calculate the score themselves (and do, if they like to set different standards).

Your argument would be legally coherent (if still incredibly asinine, since no information save what the bank procures personally could be used) if the credit bureaus made an actual statement saying "Yes, you should grant this loan" or "no, you shouldn't grant this loan", but they don't.
None of this matters. If you and I discuss something, you provide me with a neutral list of pros and cons, and then I make a decision about it, by the normal use of the phrase, I made that decision in coordination with you. All it takes, remember, is to find one judge who's willing to interpret it that way. You seem to think this will never happen because you don't agree with the interpretation, proving that you know nothing about judges, given that they accept much dumber arguments every day.
It gets even worse if you remember that how sufficient a credit score is in the eye of the bank depends on the requested loan. A low loan might be granted even with a lower score, while a higher one will likely be rejected.
Of course, this could be used as a judge to weigh against the idea that credit scores are "quantitative [and] impartial" objective metrics.
The "shall" in "shall be assessed a civil penalty" states that the assessment and penalty is compulsory.
I thought about mentioning this, but legally, it doesn't matter, because nobody has standing to force the Comptroller to do it. It would be an exercise of executive discretion. Furthermore, I think even if it came up, a judge could be convinced that, while it may be compulsory to assess the penalty, he cannot be required to actually collect it either.
Considering the problem at hand is caused by Visa, this is a problem how?
Because Visa doesn't give a **** about your $10,000 fine.
I'm sure Visa and Co would just be absolutely thrilled to have their legal departments constantly deal with the administrator of the federal banking system putting fine after fine on them. This wouldn't bog them down at all.
If it actually happens, sure.
How could you reach that conclusion without just pretending that the judge in question is as legally illiterate as you seem to be and doesn't get overruled before the ink on the order is dry? Because your loophole only exists so long as the judge in question is insane, and no law ever crafted can help you against that.
Yeah, this tells me that you've never met judges. Most decisions stand and never get overruled, and judges pretty much do whatever they want. The law, in general, is an elaborate fantasy.
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Basically, all your whining is boiling down to "nooo you don't live in my fantasy world where judges always follow the exact spirit of the law and never stretch things to do something I don't like, that means you must not KNOW HOW TO READ!!!!"
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WhiteShark wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 16:15
Rumbles wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 15:48
The first game has JRPG as the 15th most popular tag according to SteamDB. How much of a coomer are you
I already explained how to replicate it, but it seems pornbrains would rather slander me than verify it.

Uncheck all boxes for adult content etc. Do a search. Filter by JRPG tag. Don't enter any keywords. Scroll down a bit.

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"B-but the porn isn't in the Steam files!" So? Who's going to buy this and not install the porn patch?
No I am slandering your method. It seems you are a weeb or a non-english native so I understand you are struggling. For some reason Hentai isnt an NSFW tag for Steam, anyhow none of these games are NSFW.
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Rumbles wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 21:41
No I am slandering your method.
Rumbles wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 15:48
How much of a coomer are you
Yeah, ok. It seems ESL coomers have short-term memory loss or are completely dishonest (it's this one).
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WhiteShark wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 21:56
Rumbles wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 21:41
No I am slandering your method.
Rumbles wrote: ↑ July 26th, 2025, 15:48
How much of a coomer are you
Yeah, ok. It seems ESL coomers have short-term memory loss or are completely dishonest (it's this one).
How can I assist you?
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Portraying yourself as a puritan who thinks an exposed midriff is NSFW while browsing JRPG games doesn't cut it. Pick your battles