CD Projekt RED aka Polish Bioware thread

[1998]

First playthrough I heavily prefered Witcher 3 over Cyberpunk. I replayed them both last year and was mainly bored by Witcher 3, but enjoyed Cyberpunk more. I think one reason for that is I knew what to expect. I went full Gunner and treated it like an FPS, didn't even attempt to pretend its an RPG.

[Roderick]

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[Unhelpful Contrarian]

Cyberpunk was hated on release, but they kept patching it, and then Netflix did numbers with the Edgerunners anime that made people check it out again when it had improved enough to be considered a modern classic.

People have **** taste and have a goldfish of a memory. No amount of patches can fix the fundamentally issues with CP2077, specifically in its narrative. Maybe when Witcher 4 releases and be a woke infested freak show people will get in their head not to trust CDPR. Nah who I kidding people would say it will make No Man Sky redemption arc and gleefully eat the slop.

[gerey]

Man, they must be really scared of Witcher 4 getting labeled as a woke game. They've been running damage control since the trailer dropped, but since CDPR is now staffed with morons they can't stop outing themselves and their hatred of gamers, and how progressive W4 is going to be.

They'll literally do everything other than give customers what they want.

Pity it will take a few more games before their sales start hurting.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

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I truly never seen an industry that constantly shits on demographic that is the majority of consumer base with such smugness.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

Man, they must be really scared of Witcher 4 getting labeled as a woke game. They've been running damage control since the trailer dropped, but since CDPR is now staffed with morons they can't stop outing themselves and their hatred of gamers, and how progressive W4 is going to be.

They'll literally do everything other than give customers what they want.

Pity it will take a few more games before their sales start hurting.

Game studios need to put a ******* muzzle on devs on there social media accounts because they’re a walking PR disaster.

[Breathe]

Man, they must be really scared of Witcher 4 getting labeled as a woke game. They've been running damage control since the trailer dropped, but since CDPR is now staffed with morons they can't stop outing themselves and their hatred of gamers, and how progressive W4 is going to be.

They'll literally do everything other than give customers what they want.

Pity it will take a few more games before their sales start hurting.

People have shown restraint and let a few of these DEI projects fail already, so I think there won't be as much lag on CDPR losing money.

[gerey]

People have shown restraint and let a few of these DEI projects fail already, so I think there won't be as much lag on CDPR losing money.

Maybe, though I think CDPR still enough of a positive reputation and goodwill to turn Witcher 4 into a success. It's always the game(s) that come after a woke fiasco that hurt the bottom line, "fool me once" and all, so I predict we won't see the end result of their ESG pandering until Cyberpunk 2 comes around.

[Breathe]

People have shown restraint and let a few of these DEI projects fail already, so I think there won't be as much lag on CDPR losing money.

Maybe, though I think CDPR still enough of a positive reputation and goodwill to turn Witcher 4 into a success. It's always the game(s) that come after a woke fiasco that hurt the bottom line, "fool me once" and all, so I predict we won't see the end result of their ESG pandering until Cyberpunk 2 comes around.

Oh god, Cyberpunk 2 lol. Hopefully they lose enough money it won't release.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

People have shown restraint and let a few of these DEI projects fail already, so I think there won't be as much lag on CDPR losing money.

Maybe, though I think CDPR still enough of a positive reputation and goodwill to turn Witcher 4 into a success. It's always the game(s) that come after a woke fiasco that hurt the bottom line, "fool me once" and all, so I predict we won't see the end result of their ESG pandering until Cyberpunk 2 comes around.

Unfortunate but true.CDPR would have do colossal fuckup’s continuously in the marketing department for the average normie to skip the title, although there already started on a bad note with the reveal trailer.

[gerey]

CDPR would have do colossal fuckup’s continuously in the marketing department for the average normie to skip the title

To be fair, the lead up to and the release of Cyberpunk 2077 was such a botched, jarring experience that many a normie is actively wary about CDPR games. CDPR did wisely invest lots of money and time to salvage the situation because they at least understood the importance of public perception.

I've seen many a redditor express skepticism and doubt about the quality of their subsequent titles, so the damage has been done already, at least to a degree.

[Roderick]

UE5 will be the death of them.

[Tangerine]

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I truly never seen an industry that constantly shits on demographic that is the majority of consumer base with such smugness.

Hollywood exists.

[1998]

CDPR would have do colossal fuckup’s continuously in the marketing department for the average normie to skip the title

To be fair, the lead up to and the release of Cyberpunk 2077 was such a botched, jarring experience that many a normie is actively wary about CDPR games. CDPR did wisely invest lots of money and time to salvage the situation because they at least understood the importance of public perception.

I've seen many a redditor express skepticism and doubt about the quality of their subsequent titles, so the damage has been done already, at least to a degree.

I don't know. It was only after the last delay that some people got a bit suspicious as to what is going on there. Before it was all game of the decade talk. They still pre-sold something like 10M copies, so I wouldn't call it botched.

Sure, at release it started at 60% or something on Steam and lots of complaints about the performance, Sony pulled it from their store. But I never felt that the attitude towards CDPR in general shifted, not like it did for Bioware or now Bethesda.

Since release its only going up for Cyperpunk, continuously selling, ratings are going up and even the DLC 2 years later seemed to have sold reasonable well.

[logincrash]

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I truly never seen an industry that constantly shits on demographic that is the majority of consumer base with such smugness.

Hollywood exists.

Pretty much every demographic watches movies while video games are played primarily by white and asian men.

[Finarfin]

You wanna know what's funnier than this fat ****** choosing the female fugly V?
****** weapon skin

[TKVNC]

You wanna know what's funnier than this fat ****** choosing the female fugly V?
****** weapon skin

He chose Female V because he is a fat closet *****.

Basically true for 90% of these Reddit deviant freaks

[Roguey]

I know that guy, he's a Something Awful goon/one of Sawyer's friends/former Obsidianite. Politics and preferences par for the course.

He got laid off from Obsidian and had to move to Poland to stay in the RPG business. I heard through the grapevine that he tried to re-apply to Obsidian after Witcher 3 shipped and was told no (allegedly not a very productive worker; takes a lot of naps during the day, spent a lot of the workday browsing Something Awful).

[Roderick]

Does Johnny stop hating corpos when they wave ****** flags

[1998]

Not sure if we will see in near future another game with a male/female choice (I am talking whites here, not counting ******* Creed). I think they were genuinely surprised why the vast majorities chose male and obviously they can't have that.

[Shady]

"Masc", "Femme". Is it really so hard to just say male or female?

[DagothGeas5]

"Masc", "Femme". Is it really so hard to just say male or female?

From my experience, they say that because they do not even mean male or female. They mean "masculine" and "feminine", meaning "what kind of look does your body have? Do you look feminine or masculine?" Which is idiotic in and of itself because it implies there exist differences between the sexes they try so hard to pretend don't exist.

[logincrash]

"Masc", "Femme". Is it really so hard to just say male or female?

From my experience, they say that because they do not even mean male or female. They mean "masculine" and "feminine", meaning "what kind of look does your body have? Do you look feminine or masculine?" Which is idiotic in and of itself because it implies there exist differences between the sexes they try so hard to pretend don't exist.

A perfect example of textbook double-think.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

Not sure if we will see in near future another game with a male/female choice (I am talking whites here, not counting ******* Creed). I think they were genuinely surprised why the vast majorities chose male and obviously they can't have that.

CDPR are infested with the woke ideology but there not dumb enough to forgo a male option when having such a huge budget that requires mass appeal. Even Ubisoft for as **** as there are gives a male/ female option in thee flagship title.

Both then again the people who run this industry are ******* ******* who can’t tie there shoes let alone run a business.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

"Masc", "Femme". Is it really so hard to just say male or female?

From my experience, they say that because they do not even mean male or female. They mean "masculine" and "feminine", meaning "what kind of look does your body have? Do you look feminine or masculine?" Which is idiotic in and of itself because it implies there exist differences between the sexes they try so hard to pretend don't exist.

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[DagothGeas5]

"Masc", "Femme". Is it really so hard to just say male or female?

From my experience, they say that because they do not even mean male or female. They mean "masculine" and "feminine", meaning "what kind of look does your body have? Do you look feminine or masculine?" Which is idiotic in and of itself because it implies there exist differences between the sexes they try so hard to pretend don't exist.

Cry laugh would be a more accurate reaction though, truth be told
This **** can't die soon enough.

[MrTwinkls]

They all just gave up making good actual female playable characters when there is a choice for the player to choose between two genders. Too much elaborate work is needed to do it good. Nowadays they just make one character with different skins, appendages and available hook-ups. They even call it now body-type A and B. Lazy incompetent fuckers.

[Faceless_Sentinel]

cyberpunk sucked, no idea how people liked it

Yes and no.

On the one hand, it's not really a cRPG in any meaningful sense of the word, but if you look at it as a GTA-clone, then the mission designs are better than anything Rockstar has done since the release of GTA 3. Compare the missions in RDR2, where even slightly straying from the dev expectations leads to a mission failure, to how Cyberpunk handles its (side) missions, where you can go loud or use stealth, where you have multiple points of ingress, where you can use the environment to distract or kill enemies.

This is not something Rockstar games have ever really managed to do consistently - a few missions here and there will change depending on how you approach them, but by and large their design demands the player strictly play the game as they want you to play it.

Granted, Cyberpunk is not the first GTA-like to do this, as Watch Dogs already had many of these elements, and a better city simulation, years prior, but that game had a rather poor reception because Ubisoft, in their infinite wisdom, tired to market it as a GTA contender, instead of a tweak to the formula (besides all the other issues the game had).

Also Cyberpunk looks almost great from graphical standpoint. To this day I like to roam around city and enjoy architecture, style of different districts, building forms. I also like that most of side quests from fixers have non-obvious sequels: if you go to the place where you did them you can see changes in the location and npcs behavior, the first thing that comes to mind is Gig: Shark in the Water, if you come back to this place in a few days, you will find owner of this store, who open it and selling meds, he also has dialogue about the fact that it is you kill his offenders.

Or in Gig: Hippocratic Oath you need to escort Lucy from clinic, you found her while she is trying to save maelstrom gang member and she ask for help and YOU have options here:

• help her
• talk her to go and she will argue until maelstrom gang member die
• shot maelstrom gang member

All this options have different voiced dialogues and animations! That is that even Larian can't offer in its games.

Exaple of waht i am describing here in a video format:

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

[Maximilian]

This particular bit of news perhaps could use more Polish-specific context. The information comes from a known, though rather older youtuber Rock (from the era when game journos noticed their newspapers don't sell anymore), who's known about it for quite some time, but chose not to report on it earlier because of no solid proof. He claims now that the DLC is a side-project by Fool's Theory, perhaps as a pilot job before they remake The Witcher 1 in Unreal Engine, already public knowledge. Rock says the proof is the latest CDPR shareholders' meeting, where they announced a side-project with Fool's Theory. Gry-online (not unreasonable to call it Poland's PC Gamer) tried to confirm it with CDPR, but they said they will not comment on speculations.