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rusty_shackleford wrote: March 27th, 2025, 02:13
If anything, there's a lack of appreciation for how much the west transformed Japanese society. Situations like this, where if they made the game more realistic it would make weebs more upset, is a good example.
Japan was somewhat unique in that regard, since they're one of the rare instances where Westernization was completed successfully, because the Japanese didn't just copy the "fancy" stuff, but were also willing to make necessary and fundamental changes to their society to achieve this.

It's interesting to read about the delegations of their best and brightest that they sent to the US and Europe, and how they "shopped" around for what they perceived to be the best or most fitting aspect from each country to copy - as an example, they initially decided copy the French army, but eventually settled on the German model. Their education system is also largely based on the Prussian one.

They were so successful in their endeavors that within a century of their ports being blown open they had managed to successfully challenge and defeat a European power.

Many other cultures also attempted to Westernize, like the Turks or the Chinese, but their efforts largely failed because they refused to understand that it's not enough to simply copy the factories, weapons, uniforms, machines, or bring advisors over - Westernization requires radical changes to society, which the powers-that-be usually are unwilling to undertake because they perceive it could threaten their grip on power.

Interestingly enough, this wasn't even the first time Japan had gone through something like this. Oda Nobunaga, the first of the three unifiers of Japan, was notorious for his disregard for customs and his willingness to try new ideas, which eventually led to Japan being the place with the most firearms in the 15th century, and them adopting a style of warfare uncannily similar to Europe's pike and shot. His two successors were far less radical in their approach, so Japan's early Westernization was aborted and put on hold for another 4 centuries.

To make humbaba mad, I recommend anyone interested in the topic of (failed) Westernization to read The Muslim Discovery of Europe by Bernard Lewis and The Search for Modern China
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****, I didn't know it was this bad :pipe-thinking:
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Reichspepe wrote: March 27th, 2025, 08:18


****, I didn't know it was this bad :pipe-thinking:
Incredible. They somehow made a worse enemy AI than Star Wars Outlaw and the enemies in that game chose to run up to you for melee combat while having guns...
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MC_Sea wrote: March 27th, 2025, 15:25
Reichspepe wrote: March 27th, 2025, 08:18


****, I didn't know it was this bad :pipe-thinking:
Incredible. They somehow made a worse enemy AI than Star Wars Outlaw and the enemies in that game chose to run up to you for melee combat while having guns...
Outlaws was a total trip and not as uniquely bad as some suggested :groan:
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Faceless_Sentinel wrote: March 27th, 2025, 07:00
That why there is so much interest in eastern culture, japanese in particular, it actually exists and it is authentic more or less. It would be nice to see something more from chinese culture, but west demonizes and bastardizes everything chinese so much that it almost impossible.
It is only recently that the Chinese have stopped demonising and bastardising their own culture. Mao tore the place up.
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ArcaneLurker wrote: March 27th, 2025, 21:37
Faceless_Sentinel wrote: March 27th, 2025, 07:00
That why there is so much interest in eastern culture, japanese in particular, it actually exists and it is authentic more or less. It would be nice to see something more from chinese culture, but west demonizes and bastardizes everything chinese so much that it almost impossible.
It is only recently that the Chinese have stopped demonising and bastardising their own culture. Mao tore the place up.
AFAIK there's still strong restrictions on how imperial China can be portrayed, not able to show them positively, etc.,
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I'm just stating the facts.
Question is are you going to gargle the truth or swallow?
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What would this mean?

https://www.gameinformer.com/2025/03/27 ... rity-owner
Ubisoft announced Tencent has invested €1.16 billion ($1.25 billion) for a minority stake in a newly created subsidiary that will spearhead the development of its three biggest franchises going forward: Assassin’s Creed, Far Cry, and Rainbow Six.
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Yankee Zulu wrote: March 28th, 2025, 04:46
What would this mean?

https://www.gameinformer.com/2025/03/27 ... rity-owner
Ubisoft announced Tencent has invested €1.16 billion ($1.25 billion) for a minority stake in a newly created subsidiary that will spearhead the development of its three biggest franchises going forward: Assassin’s Creed, Far Cry, and Rainbow Six.
I guess this means that Assassin ****** was indeed the gigaflop everyone expected it would be, so Ubishit needed to be rescued by a ***** company.
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Yankee Zulu wrote: March 28th, 2025, 04:46
What would this mean?

https://www.gameinformer.com/2025/03/27 ... rity-owner
Ubisoft announced Tencent has invested €1.16 billion ($1.25 billion) for a minority stake in a newly created subsidiary that will spearhead the development of its three biggest franchises going forward: Assassin’s Creed, Far Cry, and Rainbow Six.
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UltraFan123 wrote: March 28th, 2025, 04:52
Yankee Zulu wrote: March 28th, 2025, 04:46
What would this mean?

https://www.gameinformer.com/2025/03/27 ... rity-owner
Ubisoft announced Tencent has invested €1.16 billion ($1.25 billion) for a minority stake in a newly created subsidiary that will spearhead the development of its three biggest franchises going forward: Assassin’s Creed, Far Cry, and Rainbow Six.
I guess this means that Assassin ****** was indeed the gigaflop everyone expected it would be, so Ubishit needed to be rescued by a ***** company.
These things don't happen on a whim. I have a feeling this was going ahead regardless of whether it was a success or not.
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Jordy wrote: March 28th, 2025, 08:16
These things don't happen on a whim. I have a feeling this was going ahead regardless of whether it was a success or not.
IIRC this investment was being discussed since 2022, so, yes, it's been in the works for years, though it's still a massive loss for Ubisoft. 1.2 billion euro is a pittance to acquire AssCreed, Far Cry and Rainbow Six.

Tencent has successfully extracted Ubisoft's most profitable IPs into a separate entity and will be able to purchase more shares, if not the controlling majority, in 2 years.

Only thing I'm curious is if Tencent will immediately start pressuring Ubisoft to be less ******** and woke, or if they'll let them take a few more Ls so their stocks plummet even more.
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I can’t deny China effectiveness.
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Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: March 28th, 2025, 12:47
I can’t deny China effectiveness.

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Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: March 28th, 2025, 12:47
I can’t deny China effectiveness.

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What a ******* moron the last comment in there is.

Seriously, trying to pin the blame on the customers for the shortcomings of the western game industry?

What power did we have exactly in all of this? Either buy woke, uninspired western slop and reward laziness, mediocrity, and an ideology I hate to my guts, or buy good or at least competent games from China? Well, not sorry for taking the less ****** part of the **** sandwich the western game industry created.

The blame is all on them. They had control of the industry and decided to **** it away for brownie points, diversity checkboxes and easy funding through ESG. So don't come back blaming me for your failures when you made your explicit mission to hate me for the better part of 15 years. **** that.
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Ubisoft would've done the same **** without Chinese funding.
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wndrbr wrote: March 28th, 2025, 14:41
Ubisoft would've done the same **** without Chinese funding.
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Don't think Tencent had to convince any of those French ******* to niggerfy their protag.
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Yankee Zulu wrote: March 28th, 2025, 04:46
What would this mean?

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Ubisoft announced Tencent has invested €1.16 billion ($1.25 billion) for a minority stake in a newly created subsidiary that will spearhead the development of its three biggest franchises going forward: Assassin’s Creed, Far Cry, and Rainbow Six.
Slop on unimaginable levels never thought possible before.
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Vergil wrote: March 28th, 2025, 15:50
Yankee Zulu wrote: March 28th, 2025, 04:46
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Slop on unimaginable levels never thought possible before.
They are just throwing money at everything. Nobody in Shenzhen will dictate anything for them to add to their games. Let's stop pretending Ubisoft before Tencent was some sort of based dev.
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1998 wrote: March 28th, 2025, 15:54
Vergil wrote: March 28th, 2025, 15:50
Slop on unimaginable levels never thought possible before.
They are just throwing money at everything. Nobody in Shenzhen will dictate anything for them to add to their games. Let's stop pretending Ubisoft before Tencent was some sort of based dev.
This poster lives in china and gets paid by the chinese government to post this

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1998 wrote: March 24th, 2025, 16:02
Because I just finished Outcast and didn't know what else to play. Also, it's dirt cheap here with regional pricing.
I suppose that makes sense. Did you also play the first Outcast btw? And where do you live that you can get it dirt cheap? It's 69,99 here in Germany.

I also checked what the deluxe edition has, seems fine content wise and playing 3 days earlier is nice.
Nah never played the original Outcast.

China. That and I can always refund after 2h if I don't think I will play the DLC. Not a big commitment tbh.

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rusty_shackleford wrote: March 28th, 2025, 15:55
1998 wrote: March 28th, 2025, 15:54
Vergil wrote: March 28th, 2025, 15:50

Slop on unimaginable levels never thought possible before.
They are just throwing money at everything. Nobody in Shenzhen will dictate anything for them to add to their games. Let's stop pretending Ubisoft before Tencent was some sort of based dev.
This poster lives in china and gets paid by the chinese government to post this

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I suppose that makes sense. Did you also play the first Outcast btw? And where do you live that you can get it dirt cheap? It's 69,99 here in Germany.

I also checked what the deluxe edition has, seems fine content wise and playing 3 days earlier is nice.
Nah never played the original Outcast.

China. That and I can always refund after 2h if I don't think I will play the DLC. Not a big commitment tbh.

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1998 wrote: March 28th, 2025, 15:54
Vergil wrote: March 28th, 2025, 15:50
Slop on unimaginable levels never thought possible before.
They are just throwing money at everything. Nobody in Shenzhen will dictate anything for them to add to their games. Let's stop pretending Ubisoft before Tencent was some sort of based dev.
Western slop company bad doesn't mean ***** bug company can't be bad too.
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Isn't the CCP funding a lot if the woke garbage to keep the West demoralized? I doubt things will change at all with Tencent
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Fox1 wrote: March 28th, 2025, 17:07
Isn't the CCP funding a lot if the woke garbage to keep the West demoralized? I doubt things will change at all with Tencent
No, they fund this trying to make moneyz. Not to destabilize the west.
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1998 wrote: March 28th, 2025, 17:10
Fox1 wrote: March 28th, 2025, 17:07
Isn't the CCP funding a lot if the woke garbage to keep the West demoralized? I doubt things will change at all with Tencent
No, they fund this trying to make moneyz. Not to destabilize the west.
I think it's the other way around. They fund neo-commie **** to destabilize the West for revenge, to further keep the West down while they grow stronger, keeping that same woke **** out of their own nation. Making money is just a side effect. Mainland Chinese are like yellow **** who hide behind "business" while they colonize and steal covertly. They are doing the same thing in Africa while pretending to be "humanitarian" and build infrastructure while stealing their resources. Making sure that Whitey is to blame for everything.
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****** are still mad about the opium wars. If they're willing to push fentanyl, influencing Western media to produce ****** **** isn't beyond them.
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1998 wrote: March 28th, 2025, 17:10
Fox1 wrote: March 28th, 2025, 17:07
Isn't the CCP funding a lot if the woke garbage to keep the West demoralized? I doubt things will change at all with Tencent
No, they fund this trying to make moneyz. Not to destabilize the west.
make a post praising starfield if you have a ccp agent holding a gun to your head
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