Ex Voto: Peak Feminism the Game

[Godjjjita]

In my opinion, it should be illegal for governments to invest any kind of money in any form of entertainment, and if another government do so it should be illegal for it to be sold or distributed in the US.

I don’t know, if the government funded a really on the nose TND boomer shooter, I doubt we would be upset. I think it’s more so about how shady and lib it is.

Even if the government does something good, their job is not to make any kind of entertainment.
The government should be shaped by culture, not try to shape it.

[Stack of Turtles]

In my opinion, it should be illegal for governments to invest any kind of money in any form of entertainment, and if another government do so it should be illegal for it to be sold or distributed in the US.

I don’t know, if the government funded a really on the nose TND boomer shooter, I doubt we would be upset. I think it’s more so about how shady and lib it is.

Even if the government does something good, their job is not to make any kind of entertainment.
The government should be shaped by culture, not try to shape it.

that's right, ONLY megarich **** have the right to try to shape our culture

[Tinky Winky]

In my opinion, it should be illegal for governments to invest any kind of money in any form of entertainment, and if another government do so it should be illegal for it to be sold or distributed in the US.

The South Korean government heavily subsidizes their entertainment industries including vidyas, mostly trashy MMORPGs and gooner sloppas but it works for them.

[Godjjjita]

I don’t know, if the government funded a really on the nose TND boomer shooter, I doubt we would be upset. I think it’s more so about how shady and lib it is.

Even if the government does something good, their job is not to make any kind of entertainment.
The government should be shaped by culture, not try to shape it.

that's right, ONLY megarich **** have the right to try to shape our culture

Historically, culture was formed by people, religion, academia and artists. Only two kinds of governments tried to actively shape the culture by force: Theocracies and authoritarian governments.

[Stack of Turtles]

Even if the government does something good, their job is not to make any kind of entertainment.
The government should be shaped by culture, not try to shape it.

that's right, ONLY megarich **** have the right to try to shape our culture

Historically, culture was formed by people, religion, academia and artists. Only two kinds of governments tried to actively shape the culture by force: Theocracies and authoritarian governments.

The Republics of Renaissance Italy or the ancient Athenian democracy and Roman republic are of course famous for never ever commissioning any cultural works in any official capacity.

[logincrash]

In my opinion, it should be illegal for governments to invest any kind of money in any form of entertainment, and if another government do so it should be illegal for it to be sold or distributed in the US.

The South Korean government heavily subsidizes their entertainment industries including vidyas, mostly trashy MMORPGs and gooner sloppas but it works for them.

South Korea is a hellhole with men and women hating each other more than **** hate Christians.

[Godjjjita]

that's right, ONLY megarich **** have the right to try to shape our culture

Historically, culture was formed by people, religion, academia and artists. Only two kinds of governments tried to actively shape the culture by force: Theocracies and authoritarian governments.

The Republics of Renaissance Italy or the ancient Athenian democracy and Roman republic are of course famous for never ever commissioning any cultural works in any official capacity.

how close were they to modern democracy? I'm asking sincerely, how was the percentage of participation on the democratic process? If only the elites are able to influence the government it doesn't count as democracy and using art to keep people complacent is a very old governing style; panem et circenses.

[Acrux]

Did this hit the promised 150,000 players this weekend?

[logincrash]

Did this hit the promised 150,000 players this weekend?

It's still Saturday. The 150,000 more players will show up before Monday

[DecadeRiptide]

Did this hit the promised 150,000 players this weekend?

Not yet.. but it's possible there was a group of bigots who deliberately wishlisted the game in masses so that when the game releases the sales translation rate would be small. That way it makes the Devs look bad. It'pretty sad behaviour tbh.

[Acrux]

Please go back to ignoring me

[Stack of Turtles]

Historically, culture was formed by people, religion, academia and artists. Only two kinds of governments tried to actively shape the culture by force: Theocracies and authoritarian governments.

The Republics of Renaissance Italy or the ancient Athenian democracy and Roman republic are of course famous for never ever commissioning any cultural works in any official capacity.

how close were they to modern democracy? I'm asking sincerely, how was the percentage of participation on the democratic process? If only the elites are able to influence the government it doesn't count as democracy and using art to keep people complacent is a very old governing style; panem et circenses.

Athens was a direct democracy where every citizen within the city had the right and responsibility to vote (there were non-citizen residents, including all women). Rome had a patrician class with extra privileges but accorded significant voting rights to the "plebeians" which also increased substantially over the life of the republic. The later Italian republics were aristocratic over most of their existence, with only members of elite families having the right to vote; but wealthy non-aristocrats and the church participated heavily in public art nevertheless. I could list more examples. The British Empire during the peak of its constitutional republican institutions continued to shape culture by commissioning public cultural works, and America, inheritor of that tradition, has actively been shaping the culture since its independence too; you can pick whatever phase in its lifespan you personally find most democratic.

Of course, there has never been a political entity in history where "elites" didn't have more ability to influence to government than anyone else, by the very nature of being elite, so if you really want to define yourself out of having any meaningful point at all, you can.

I think the more important question is this: If you didn't know the history of these things, why did you make pronouncements about what the "only" governments to do it "historically" were in the first place?

[UltraFan123]

it's possible there was a group of bigots who deliberately wishlisted the game in masses so that when the game releases the sales translation rate would be small.

Leftards and their projections will never stop being funny.

At its most basic definition, a bigot is someone who hates a particular group or individual for no legitimate reason.

This Indian ****** and adjacent queerfreaks are always parroting around pretending to be victims as if we hate them for no reason, when the simple truth is that we normal people have every justified reason to despise them.

We are the complete opposite of the woketards, who are always blaming us for **** we only did in their mentally ill imaginations.

[Tangerine]

who are always blaming us for **** we only did in their mentally ill imaginations.

I do the things they say I do because it makes them feel bad.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

We also have examples of state funded entertainment that is not just good but excellent. Log Horizon, Twelve Kingdoms, March Comes in Like a Lion, and the live action adaptation of Seirei no Moribito were funded by the NHK. MBS funded Fullmetal Alchemist and FMAB, Gundam SEED, 00, and Ironblooded Orphans, and Code Geass.




The NHK also funded the first season of Vinland Saga. The NHK also intervened and funded the last season of Attack on Titan after that anime adaptation suffered enormous production difficulties. Fuji TV funded Psycho-Pass and Anohana. TV Tokyo was also involved in Pokémon, Naruto, Bleach, and Gintama.

I have not heard of Japan directly funding the development of specific videogames, but they have dumped lots of money into the Cool Japan program to market Japanese entertainment overseas.

If these Western governments are funding ****, it's because 1. there has been over a century of cultural breakdown where people have been raised not to be able to identify and uphold standards for good art. The people have bad tastes and those people are getting into government and are funding trash. And 2. they cannot or will not identify proven groups or talented people and fund them.

[Godjjjita]

I think the more important question is this: If you didn't know the history of these things, why did you make pronouncements about what the "only" governments to do it "historically" were in the first place?

I knew Athens may have been a true democracy but excluding it I don't think any government where public participation is not possible for every adult should be considered a democracy, the rule of the people.
I also do not know about any historical government in africa, india or asia in general but I didn't feel the need to specify western governments.

We also have examples of state funded entertainment that is not just good but excellent. Log Horizon, Twelve Kingdoms, March Comes in Like a Lion, and the live action adaptation of Seirei no Moribito were funded by the NHK. MBS funded Fullmetal Alchemist and FMAB, Gundam SEED, 00, and Ironblooded Orphans, and Code Geass.




The NHK also funded the first season of Vinland Saga. The NHK also intervened and funded the last season of Attack on Titan after that anime adaptation suffered enormous production difficulties. Fuji TV funded Psycho-Pass and Anohana. TV Tokyo was also involved in Pokémon, Naruto, Bleach, and Gintama.

I have not heard of Japan directly funding the development of specific videogames, but they have dumped lots of money into the Cool Japan program to market Japanese entertainment overseas.

If these Western governments are funding ****, it's because 1. there has been over a century of cultural breakdown where people have been raised not to be able to identify and uphold standards for good art. The people have bad tastes and those people are getting into government and are funding trash. And 2. they cannot or will not identify proven groups or talented people and fund them.

In Asian democratic countries it seems they fund entertainment for the sake of the economy not the reshaping of culture, that's not only acceptable but a responsible use of taxpayer money.

[Zess_T]

I think the more important question is this: If you didn't know the history of these things, why did you make pronouncements about what the "only" governments to do it "historically" were in the first place?

I knew Athens may have been a true democracy but excluding it I don't think any government where public participation is not possible for every adult should be considered a democracy, the rule of the people.
I also do not know about any historical government in africa, india or asia in general but I didn't feel the need to specify western governments.

We also have examples of state funded entertainment that is not just good but excellent. Log Horizon, Twelve Kingdoms, March Comes in Like a Lion, and the live action adaptation of Seirei no Moribito were funded by the NHK. MBS funded Fullmetal Alchemist and FMAB, Gundam SEED, 00, and Ironblooded Orphans, and Code Geass.




The NHK also funded the first season of Vinland Saga. The NHK also intervened and funded the last season of Attack on Titan after that anime adaptation suffered enormous production difficulties. Fuji TV funded Psycho-Pass and Anohana. TV Tokyo was also involved in Pokémon, Naruto, Bleach, and Gintama.

I have not heard of Japan directly funding the development of specific videogames, but they have dumped lots of money into the Cool Japan program to market Japanese entertainment overseas.

If these Western governments are funding ****, it's because 1. there has been over a century of cultural breakdown where people have been raised not to be able to identify and uphold standards for good art. The people have bad tastes and those people are getting into government and are funding trash. And 2. they cannot or will not identify proven groups or talented people and fund them.

In Asian democratic countries it seems they fund entertainment for the sake of the economy not the reshaping of culture, that's not only acceptable but a responsible use of taxpayer money.

But isn't that just another instance of enforcing the culture elsewhere? Just admit that its okay for governments to fund cultural works if it falls within the objective moral framework of that government system.

[Godjjjita]

I think the more important question is this: If you didn't know the history of these things, why did you make pronouncements about what the "only" governments to do it "historically" were in the first place?

I knew Athens may have been a true democracy but excluding it I don't think any government where public participation is not possible for every adult should be considered a democracy, the rule of the people.
I also do not know about any historical government in africa, india or asia in general but I didn't feel the need to specify western governments.

We also have examples of state funded entertainment that is not just good but excellent. Log Horizon, Twelve Kingdoms, March Comes in Like a Lion, and the live action adaptation of Seirei no Moribito were funded by the NHK. MBS funded Fullmetal Alchemist and FMAB, Gundam SEED, 00, and Ironblooded Orphans, and Code Geass.




The NHK also funded the first season of Vinland Saga. The NHK also intervened and funded the last season of Attack on Titan after that anime adaptation suffered enormous production difficulties. Fuji TV funded Psycho-Pass and Anohana. TV Tokyo was also involved in Pokémon, Naruto, Bleach, and Gintama.

I have not heard of Japan directly funding the development of specific videogames, but they have dumped lots of money into the Cool Japan program to market Japanese entertainment overseas.

If these Western governments are funding ****, it's because 1. there has been over a century of cultural breakdown where people have been raised not to be able to identify and uphold standards for good art. The people have bad tastes and those people are getting into government and are funding trash. And 2. they cannot or will not identify proven groups or talented people and fund them.

In Asian democratic countries it seems they fund entertainment for the sake of the economy not the reshaping of culture, that's not only acceptable but a responsible use of taxpayer money.

But isn't that just another instance of enforcing the culture elsewhere? Just admit that its okay for governments to fund cultural works if it falls within the objective moral framework of that government system.

My concern is that any action that is legally possible can be used for evil, the government should only do what is absolutely necessary to reduce its power when those in power want to oppress the people.

[Finarfin]

We also have examples of state funded entertainment that is not just good but excellent. Log Horizon, Twelve Kingdoms, March Comes in Like a Lion, and the live action adaptation of Seirei no Moribito were funded by the NHK. MBS funded Fullmetal Alchemist and FMAB, Gundam SEED, 00, and Ironblooded Orphans, and Code Geass.




The NHK also funded the first season of Vinland Saga. The NHK also intervened and funded the last season of Attack on Titan after that anime adaptation suffered enormous production difficulties. Fuji TV funded Psycho-Pass and Anohana. TV Tokyo was also involved in Pokémon, Naruto, Bleach, and Gintama.

I have not heard of Japan directly funding the development of specific videogames, but they have dumped lots of money into the Cool Japan program to market Japanese entertainment overseas.

If these Western governments are funding ****, it's because 1. there has been over a century of cultural breakdown where people have been raised not to be able to identify and uphold standards for good art. The people have bad tastes and those people are getting into government and are funding trash. And 2. they cannot or will not identify proven groups or talented people and fund them.

******* should've fund Grimgar of Fantasy and Ash and not **** Horizon. Generic *** anime about people playing an MMO ffs.

[methoxetamine]

We also have examples of state funded entertainment that is not just good but excellent. Log Horizon, Twelve Kingdoms, March Comes in Like a Lion, and the live action adaptation of Seirei no Moribito were funded by the NHK. MBS funded Fullmetal Alchemist and FMAB, Gundam SEED, 00, and Ironblooded Orphans, and Code Geass.




The NHK also funded the first season of Vinland Saga. The NHK also intervened and funded the last season of Attack on Titan after that anime adaptation suffered enormous production difficulties. Fuji TV funded Psycho-Pass and Anohana. TV Tokyo was also involved in Pokémon, Naruto, Bleach, and Gintama.

I have not heard of Japan directly funding the development of specific videogames, but they have dumped lots of money into the Cool Japan program to market Japanese entertainment overseas.

If these Western governments are funding ****, it's because 1. there has been over a century of cultural breakdown where people have been raised not to be able to identify and uphold standards for good art. The people have bad tastes and those people are getting into government and are funding trash. And 2. they cannot or will not identify proven groups or talented people and fund them.

******* should've fund Grimgar of Fantasy and Ash and not **** Horizon. Generic *** anime about people playing an MMO ffs.

What did Log Horizon do to hurt you bro?

DATABASE DATABASE

[Finarfin]

It's generic high fantasy slop. Grimgar atleast had a high fantasy setting but had real people dealing with their new life. It handled death in a mature way.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Log Horizon was fantastic. The MMO playerbase gets isekaied to a fantasy world, and now they have to deal with the consequences of living as immortals who don't need food, and thus nobody has any incentive to work to put food on the table, and societal collapse ensues. They have to figure out how to rebuild society so that people stop lying down in the streets, how to get rid of bad actors and who has the authority to do so, what their policy will be in interacting with other nations, etc. For all of the pomp surrounding Legend of the Galactic Heroes, it didn't do that. I can't think of any other show that really asked these questions except Kado: The Right Answer, which shat the bed towards the end.

The show is also engaging to watch on a moment to moment basis. The characters are likeable, and there is tension between the characters and the story making you wonder how the next problem will be solved, IF it can be solved. The weakness of the show is in season 2 when the story splits into two different POVs. The group trying to handle the crisis back home at the city was interesting, but Shiro off doing the MMO raid was boring. And then we got the detour plot about the group in China fighting random monsters, rather than watching more interesting societal conflict stuff. The encroaching adversarial dictatorship where dissenter players are imprisoned in the respawn chamber was set up, but I don't think the show ever got to that arc.

[UltraFan123]

I do definitely think that Grimar is far more generic weebshit MMO when you compare it to Log Horizon.

Grimgar started alright, low-level and gritty, but as it progressed and reached the point when the protagonist didn't even need to aim his shots anymore because the system did everything, it become another overpowered MC isekai.

[Norfleet]

We also have examples of state funded entertainment that is not just good but excellent. Log Horizon, Twelve Kingdoms, March Comes in Like a Lion, and the live action adaptation of Seirei no Moribito were funded by the NHK. MBS funded Fullmetal Alchemist and FMAB, Gundam SEED, 00, and Ironblooded Orphans, and Code Geass.

MBS doesn't care about culture, he just wants Saudi Arabia to have a future beyond oil, which they know is running down.

Also, your idea of "excellence" is HIGHLY QUESTIONABLE, given that everything you have listed appears to be weeb squidporn slop.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

We also have examples of state funded entertainment that is not just good but excellent. Log Horizon, Twelve Kingdoms, March Comes in Like a Lion, and the live action adaptation of Seirei no Moribito were funded by the NHK. MBS funded Fullmetal Alchemist and FMAB, Gundam SEED, 00, and Ironblooded Orphans, and Code Geass.

MBS doesn't care about culture, he just wants Saudi Arabia to have a future beyond oil, which they know is running down.

MBS for Mainichi Broadcasting System, not a Saudi.

[Tweed]

Weebs talking about weeb ****.

[Norfleet]

MBS for Mainichi Broadcasting System, not a Saudi.

I know of NOBODY who would draw this conclusion from you writing "MBS". I asked 10 different randos just now what they thought MBS meant, and 9 out of 10 responded "Mohammed bin Salman" or something to that effect, with the 10th having no clue. Do you EVER say anything that isn't weird weeb ****?

[methoxetamine]

@Val the Moofia Boss they just don't know how to act in the presence of an alpha male

[Val the Moofia Boss]

MBS for Mainichi Broadcasting System, not a Saudi.

I know of NOBODY who would draw this conclusion from you writing "MBS". I asked 10 different randos just now what they thought MBS meant, and 9 out of 10 responded "Mohammed bin Salman" or something to that effect, with the 10th having no clue. Do you EVER say anything that isn't weird weeb ****?

The context was about domestic government agencies funding cultural entertainment. I named Japanese TV channels. It is inferred that it is an acronym for another one of those.

[Norfleet]

The context was about domestic government agencies funding cultural entertainment. I named Japanese TV channels. It is inferred that it is an acronym for another one of those.

If we're talking about government agencies funding cultural entertainment, the BIG thing is the Saudis buying up everything. Like they just recently ate EA (and nothing of value was lost). Bringing up "MBS" in a discussion of cultural entertainment STRONGLY points to Saudi.