Junior Adventurer's Guild - May: Knights of the Old Republic

[logincrash]

@rusty_shackleford I like Morrowind. It's great!

[wndrbr]

Was browsing IMDB, and found that the guy who voiced Jolee Bindo previously voiced the Enclave comms officer from Fo2.

[maidenhaver]

Has Morrowind been done before? Is that how one can get the Shroomhead badge?

You just have to like Morrowind. That's enough.

That's asking quite a lot, though. Very difficult. Not many can do it.

You have to prove you've beaten it vanilla.

[Oyster Sauce]

Was browsing IMDB, and found that the guy who voiced Jolee Bindo previously voiced the Enclave comms officer from Fo2.

Watched an X Files episode a few days ago that featured Canderous as a sheriff without realizing it

[Vergil]

Next month will be Oblivion

Has Morrowind been done before? Is that how one can get the Shroomhead badge?

I would give you mine if I could.

[logincrash]

I would give you mine if I could.

No offense, I'm not sure I should accept a fungus from the resident homosexual.

[Vergil]

I would give you mine if I could.

No offense, I'm not sure I should accept a fungus from the resident homosexual.

What does @Slavic Sorcerer have to do with this?

[Slavic Sorcerer]

I would give you mine if I could.

No offense, I'm not sure I should accept a fungus from the resident homosexual.

What does @Slavic Sorcerer have to do with this?

[logincrash]

Turns out you can kill that faggot Darth Bandon at the same spot as you killed Calo Nerd without finishing the 3rd planet first.
I returned to Tatooine to search the Star Map cave and he turned up out of nowhere.

You can see Calo's speeders still in the background.

[gerey]

I did it. Rakata Prime and Star Forge were a complete slog though.

I love how uncomfortable everyone looks in this picture, especially because there's at least two war criminals, a mass murdered, and traitors aplenty in it getting an award.

[Vergil]

Once again dark side mogs the light side ending.

[wndrbr]

Turns out you can kill that faggot Darth Bandon at the same spot as you killed Calo Nerd without finishing the 3rd planet first.

I finished the third planet and haven't met Dark Brandon.

Then I was randomly backtracking through Kashyyk's shadowlands in order to get the tach gland for a sidequest, and found the guy just chilling near a campfire.

[gerey]

Then I was randomly backtracking through Kashyyk's shadowlands in order to get the tach gland for a sidequest, and found the guy just chilling near a campfire.

Yeah, met him on Kashyyk too - there was basically no buildup to the confrontation and he died in seconds.

[logincrash]

Okay, that's enough KotOR for me for another six years.




It turns out your companions can also wear Star Forged armor.

[Oyster Sauce]

Okay, that's enough KotOR for me for another six years.




It turns out your companions can also wear Star Forged armor.

Wait did you beat it twice? Madman.

[gerey]

It's funny to look back at my impression of KOTOR 1 from years ago and compare it to my recent playthrough.

Back then I didn't realize just how tiny and cramped the whole game is. Most locations, chief among them the cities, are usually one long corridor, and there's very little content to go around. You can blitz through most planets in under 2 hours, despite the game's every attempt to prolong the suffering via constant backtracking and fetch quests.

Whoever designed the Star Force to be an endless tide of trash enemies, where you are constantly forced to wrangle the two other tards on your team when they keep backtracking to fight more trash mobs, should be lashed unto death.

The three party limit hurts any chances for your party members to shine thorugh. Apparently they have a lot of interactions with each other, but the only ones I ever witnessed in this playthrough were Mission and Carth arguing like teenage girls (mostly because I was stuck with them, and it was a choice between him and the wookie). Also, HK-47 genuinely feels like he was written by someone other than KOTOR's regular writers, since he's the sole companion that manages to funny - pity he's so utterly gimped that it's never worth to take him along, even after I added a patch that attempted to correct his shitty stats.

Most of my playthrough I spent in the company of the furry and the geriatric nigger.

Most quests were highly unenjoyable, and I was especially butthurt that I couldn't use the fire grenade on Korriban to melt the frozen acid under the two Sith instructors.

I was actually surprised that Drew Karpyshyn was the lead on the game, because the Mass Effect games did a much better job to mask the binary moral choices, or at the very least made moralfagging more palatable. In KOTOR 1 you can't even pit one gang against the other without one of them turning out to be dindunuffin gud bois.

Kashyyyk was "12 Years a Wookie", Datooine predictive programming for the newest Romeo and Juliet, Tatooine was... there, and Korriban made me realize why Revan needed an infinite money cheat to get anywhere in his war against the Republic.

[logincrash]

[review]

Very well put. Completely agree. My younger self enjoyed the game much more than I have on these recent playthroughs.
Also,

the Mass Effect games did a much better job to mask the binary moral choices

Mass Effect's dialogue system (for as shitty as it was) handled the Good/Bad dialogue choices a bit more logically. You couldn't do the most evil shit if you were too far along the good guy route and vice versa. Being able to play full Light Side and then go "Muah-ha-ha-ha! I am Darth Revan! The Republic will fall before me!" (and there are lines that are pretty much the same word for fucking word in-game) is hilariously dumb.

Wait did you beat it twice? Madman.

Yeah, that was a bit stupid of me.

[wndrbr]

Wait did you beat it twice? Madman.

Yeah, that was a bit stupid of me.

junior adventurer's guild badge is a boolean. Now you won't get one unless you beat the game for the third time.

[logincrash]

junior adventurer's guild badge is a boolean. Now you won't get one unless you beat the game for the third time.

Well, fuck.

[gerey]

Very well put. Completely agree. My younger self enjoyed the game much more than I have on these recent playthroughs.

I enjoyed it much more than I did Alpha Protocol, which was an exercise in suffering.

Mass Effect's dialogue system (for as shitty as it was) handled the Good/Bad dialogue choices a bit more logically. You couldn't do the most evil shit if you were too far along the good guy route and vice versa.

Also the fact BioWare tried (emphasis on tried) to move away from binary good/evil and structure the choices as lawful/renegade - you were still trying to achieve the same thing, but the way you went about it differed.

I generally preferred this approach because it was BioWare finally acknowledging very few players bothered with the evil choices. A step further would have been to separate the quest outcome and the actions taken to achieve it, but I guess that was a step too far for them.

KOTOR 1 would generally have benefited from the writers assuming Revan was a "ends justify the means" guy trying to achieve some common good and went from there - thus the choices could then have been structured as the player realigning with the Revan personality, or rejecting this and striving to be a proper Jedi (for good or ill).

[Element]

Rerun of voting for next month, or?

[Oyster Sauce]

Rerun of voting for next month, or?

Was going to do the same with DAO+9 randoms unless anyone has input

[Vergil]

Make sure to keep a vampire related game on the list. I want some sort of bat or blood drop badge

[Oyster Sauce]

Make sure to keep a vampire related game on the list. I want some sort of bat or blood drop badge

Bloodrayne coming right up

[gerey]

Was going to do the same with DAO+9 randoms unless anyone has input

Maybe put Arx Fatalis, Dark Messiah, System Shock 1/2 or Deus Ex in there for a bit of variety.

[Oyster Sauce]

Was going to do the same with DAO+9 randoms unless anyone has input

Maybe put Arx Fatalis, Dark Messiah, System Shock 1/2 or Deus Ex in there for a bit of variety.

Current list. Gonna give any game that gets 0 votes a month off.

Anachronox
Arx Fatalis
Baldur's Gate
Bound By Flame
Dark Messiah of Might & Magic
Deus Ex
Dragon Age: Origins
Drakensang
Expeditions: Conquistador
Fallout
Final Fantasy 3
Geneforge
Gothic
Hard to be a God
Mars: War Logs
Mount & Blade: With Fire and Sword
Oblivion
Of Orcs and Men
Shadowrun Returns
System Shock
Two Worlds
Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines
Xenogears

[rusty_shackleford]

Having a selection reticle for the nearest interactive object seems like a fairly easy way to deal with 'pixel hunting' in bird's-eye-view games without having to rely on just highlighting interactables tbh.

[rusty_shackleford]

Anyone have any issues with low FPS?

[rusty_shackleford]

Anyone have any issues with low FPS?

Set

Disable Vertex Buffer Objects=1

to 0 in swkotor.ini in the game's directory

Code: Select all

!!VP1.0 # This is the vertex program for doing the bumpy-shiny stuff.

very cool, bioware, thanks

[rusty_shackleford]

hehe