Is it over for Piranha Bytes?

[rusty_shackleford]

Everything I've read about Embracer is that they've repeatedly, to their own detriment, given developers chances upon chances to actually do their job and have gotten nothing in return but failures.
Publishers like EA exist because developers don't deserve any better than EA. It's a shame gamers have to suffer due to developer incompetence.

[Cretin]

Making the same game over and over again is a common criticism of PB that I've heard so that tracks.

Its a criticism that people just mindlessly parrot.

PB's best received games have all be clones of gothic. Its all their titles that are NOT clones of G1/G2 that are poorly received: gothic 3, risen 2, risen 3, ELEX 2.

Actually, I would say PB's problem is that they can't just make the same game and iterate. All they had to do was take ELEX 1 and polish it up and they just couldnt ******* do it.

[rusty_shackleford]

I found modded Gothic 3 to actually be fun. I've been meaning to do a writeup on what mods to use/what settings for a while. The community did a lot of post-release work, modded Gothic 3 is underappreciated.

[Tweed]

Could have married Risen and Gothic's plots since Risen was really a continuation from Gothic 3 anyhow. There's a lot to explore in that universe, but they dumped it.

[Vaako]

Everything I've read about Embracer is that they've repeatedly, to their own detriment, given developers chances upon chances to actually do their job and have gotten nothing in return but failures.
Publishers like EA exist because developers don't deserve any better than EA. It's a shame gamers have to suffer due to developer incompetence.

Often happens when studios get bought or exist for too long. They become complacent and lazy. Only studio I can think of which is still going strong is fromsoft really.

[wndrbr]

modded Gothic 3 to actually be fun

lipstick on a pig

[rusty_shackleford]

modded Gothic 3 to actually be fun

lipstick on a pig

The foundations of the game are fine, they're no different than the other Gothic games. The mods completely redid quests, settlements, equipment, NPCs, etc.,

[KnightoftheWind]

Everything I've read about Embracer is that they've repeatedly, to their own detriment, given developers chances upon chances to actually do their job and have gotten nothing in return but failures.
Publishers like EA exist because developers don't deserve any better than EA. It's a shame gamers have to suffer due to developer incompetence.

Often happens when studios get bought or exist for too long. They become complacent and lazy. Only studio I can think of which is still going strong is fromsoft really.

And all From Software does is asset flip Dark Souls ad nauseum. Even Bethesda puts more effort into reskinning Skyrim. You can probably still fine dozens of animations and sound effects from Dark Souls in Elden Ring.

[rusty_shackleford]

I'd be totally fine with more "asset flips" that are just Good Thing: Except More!

[WhiteShark]

And all From Software does is asset flip Dark Souls ad nauseum. Even Bethesda puts more effort into reskinning Skyrim. You can probably still fine dozens of animations and sound effects from Dark Souls in Elden Ring.

That's just Japanese-style game development, not laziness. They like to iterate slowly.

[Vaako]

Everything I've read about Embracer is that they've repeatedly, to their own detriment, given developers chances upon chances to actually do their job and have gotten nothing in return but failures.
Publishers like EA exist because developers don't deserve any better than EA. It's a shame gamers have to suffer due to developer incompetence.

Often happens when studios get bought or exist for too long. They become complacent and lazy. Only studio I can think of which is still going strong is fromsoft really.

And all From Software does is asset flip Dark Souls ad nauseum. Even Bethesda puts more effort into reskinning Skyrim. You can probably still fine dozens of animations and sound effects from Dark Souls in Elden Ring.

Sure most animations get reused but most studios do that. We still get plenty of new looking monsters with different attacks/abilities and great worlds/lore/music. And Sekiro/Bloodborne played quite diferently than dark souls or eldenring. Also no microtransaction crap and hot waifus. Only reason tho I didnt buy Eldenring was I knew the pvp would be **** in an openworld where you cant invade people like in the catacombs in dark souls3 and you always had to fight 2+ and couldnt even invade single hosts. That probably removed like 500hours gameplay for me. The pool of targets becomes just too small to invade with this many areas and only 2+ people and if you cant even choose the area with lots of trap/ledges to throw people down that sucks too. Was enough in dark souls3 that invasions prioritized 2+ but if those werent there you could annoy single hosts.

[KnightoftheWind]

And all From Software does is asset flip Dark Souls ad nauseum. Even Bethesda puts more effort into reskinning Skyrim. You can probably still fine dozens of animations and sound effects from Dark Souls in Elden Ring.

That's just Japanese-style game development, not laziness. They like to iterate slowly.

It is laziness. If any western developer pulled what From Software does, they'd be lambasted to hell and back.

[rusty_shackleford]

And all From Software does is asset flip Dark Souls ad nauseum. Even Bethesda puts more effort into reskinning Skyrim. You can probably still fine dozens of animations and sound effects from Dark Souls in Elden Ring.

That's just Japanese-style game development, not laziness. They like to iterate slowly.

It is laziness. If any western developer pulled what From Software does, they'd be lambasted to hell and back.

Have you ever heard of this little studio called Ubisoft?

[WhiteShark]

It is laziness. If any western developer pulled what From Software does, they'd be lambasted to hell and back.

Many Western developers are obsessed with innovation even at the cost of a successful formula. There's nothing wrong with carefully improving on a good, successful game.

[Goth-Girl-Supremacy]

Many Western developers are obsessed with innovation even at the cost of a successful formula. There's nothing wrong with carefully improving on a good, successful game.

Sadly if they do this you will have screeching dipshits go, "it's a cashgrab!" more often than not.

[wndrbr]

And it's a good thing. Trying to innovate? You should've iterated on your old ideas instead of coming up with something that's new but barely working. Building off of an existing foundation? Rehash, cashgrab!

There should be more dipshits screeching at the devs, to keep them on their toes.

[rusty_shackleford]

Larian got **** on all the time for BG3 being "DOS3" because it's just yet another iteration, but it's probably the best selling turn-based RPG of all time.

[wndrbr]

Larian got **** on

good

[Shillitron]

I found modded Gothic 3 to actually be fun. I've been meaning to do a writeup on what mods to use/what settings for a while. The community did a lot of post-release work, modded Gothic 3 is underappreciated.

There was some Gothic 3 remake a while back that overhauled the game, It changed where you start and rejigged the map - I vaguely remember what it was other than it was ****. I assume you aren't referring to this but individual mod load outs?

[rusty_shackleford]

I found modded Gothic 3 to actually be fun. I've been meaning to do a writeup on what mods to use/what settings for a while. The community did a lot of post-release work, modded Gothic 3 is underappreciated.

There was some Gothic 3 remake a while back that overhauled the game, It changed where you start and rejigged the map - I vaguely remember what it was other than it was ****. I assume you aren't referring to this but individual mod load outs?

Individual mods that are presumably meant to work together. It was quite well done.
I played the game without mods for a dozen hours or so then found out about the mods and it was like going from an unfinished alpha to a full game.

[Shillitron]

I found modded Gothic 3 to actually be fun. I've been meaning to do a writeup on what mods to use/what settings for a while. The community did a lot of post-release work, modded Gothic 3 is underappreciated.

There was some Gothic 3 remake a while back that overhauled the game, It changed where you start and rejigged the map - I vaguely remember what it was other than it was ****. I assume you aren't referring to this but individual mod load outs?

Individual mods that are presumably meant to work together. It was quite well done.
I played the game without mods for a dozen hours or so then found out about the mods and it was like going from an unfinished alpha to a full game.

I actually enjoyed ******* around in Gothic 3 original for several hours and I must admit I am a little curious what mods could do for that game.
It's not a masterpiece and the combat was jank as hell but it has a charm.

[Rand]

I found modded Gothic 3 to actually be fun. I've been meaning to do a writeup on what mods to use/what settings for a while. The community did a lot of post-release work, modded Gothic 3 is underappreciated.

I'd like to see that.

[Tweed]

I tried some mods, most are really badly translated things that add on to the plot in odd ways. Last time I played I was unaware of the engine fix mod though, the one that finally puts an end to the awful jittering and lag.

[Rand]

I found modded Gothic 3 to actually be fun. I've been meaning to do a writeup on what mods to use/what settings for a while. The community did a lot of post-release work, modded Gothic 3 is underappreciated.

There was some Gothic 3 remake a while back that overhauled the game, It changed where you start and rejigged the map - I vaguely remember what it was other than it was ****. I assume you aren't referring to this but individual mod load outs?

Individual mods that are presumably meant to work together. It was quite well done.
I played the game without mods for a dozen hours or so then found out about the mods and it was like going from an unfinished alpha to a full game.

Gib mod list, plz.

[wndrbr]

[Watser]

It's over.

[jcd]

bros...

[Tweed]

[asf]

It has been over since g3

[rusty_shackleford]

I need to find someone to make customized stationery art that every gamedev seems to have now for the next time I need to issue a statement