No Alphabets 7.1 — Baldur's Gate 3

[Anon]

Thanks a lot for all your work, Orin and all the modders. No alphabets + better aesthetics + alternate wyll have greatly increased my enjoyment of the game, can't say enough good things about these mods.

[orinEsque]

Shall I make a separate mod for pro refugee dialog to a neutral one? I mean its got nothing to do with Alphabets...

The whole pride and diversity belongs here though.

[Voolux]

Just wanted to say thank you for making the game better by removing the useless pandering. It literally killed the immersion for me over time in-game..
God bless the modders and this website <3

[Mesa9988]

Thanks from me too, they went really overboard on the "inclusivity" on that one.
B is for Baldurs Gate not Berlin, guess Larian got the cities confused.

[orinEsque]

Just wanted to say thank you for making the game better by removing the useless pandering. It literally killed the immersion for me over time in-game..
God bless the modders and this website <3

Thanks from me too, they went really overboard on the "inclusivity" on that one.
B is for Baldurs Gate not Berlin, guess Larian got the cities confused.

Welcome new friends, you should tell us how you came to know about No Alphabets so we can laugh at reddit for making it popular.

[Mesa9988]

Welcome new friends, you should tell us how you came to know about No Alphabets so we can laugh at reddit for making it popular.

Well I learned about this forum through the White Wyll Fuzz over at Nexusmods a while ago, was holding off Playing BG3 so I only now started downloading mods.

6 December though this Stuff was all over teh Internet
https://bnnbreaking.com/arts/video-gami ... -backlash/

Nexusmods is doing a good Streisand.

[Anon]

Shall I make a separate mod for pro refugee dialog to a neutral one? I mean its got nothing to do with Alphabets...

The whole pride and diversity belongs here though.

The only audience that I imagine wouldn't want anti-refugee dialogue but also don't want LGBTQIA+++ **** in their game would be refugees themselves.

edit: better grammar

Btw @orinEsque when are you writing your fabled hate manifesto? We'd love reading it!

[orinEsque]

Welcome new friends, you should tell us how you came to know about No Alphabets so we can laugh at reddit for making it popular.

Well I learned about this forum through the White Wyll Fuzz over at Nexusmods a while ago, was holding off Playing BG3 so I only now started downloading mods.

6 December though this Stuff was all over teh Internet
https://bnnbreaking.com/arts/video-gami ... -backlash/

Nexusmods is doing a good Streisand.

Good old pRedditor ****** advertising for us!

[orinEsque]

Lingo Hotfix Version 3.5.2 - 08 Jan 2024

• Altered Californian response to being called a refugee.
• Corpses of refugees now say "Dead Man", "Dead Woman", "Dead Elf" etc.
• Fixed typos

[LemonDemonGirl]

"Californian"
That's spot-on lmao

[Voolux]

Just wanted to say thank you for making the game better by removing the useless pandering. It literally killed the immersion for me over time in-game..
God bless the modders and this website <3

Thanks from me too, they went really overboard on the "inclusivity" on that one.
B is for Baldurs Gate not Berlin, guess Larian got the cities confused.

Welcome new friends, you should tell us how you came to know about No Alphabets so we can laugh at reddit for making it popular.

I came across this site through a Steam discussion. I don't need to mention how those alphabet fanatics flocked the thread with senseless "phobic" insults.
The funniest part I've found so far regarding those people, is that no matter how many facts you present to them, which are based on reality and statistics. They either insult you or derail the topic, because they don't have any counter-argument.
It feels like talking to an NPC, who doesn't have more than 5 lines in his arsenal.

[CheesusCrust]

I came across this site through a Steam discussion. I don't need to mention how those alphabet fanatics flocked the thread with senseless "phobic" insults.
The funniest part I've found so far regarding those people, is that no matter how many facts you present to them, which are based on reality and statistics. They either insult you or derail the topic, because they don't have any counter-argument.
It feels like talking to an NPC, who doesn't have more than 5 lines in his arsenal.

they can't response because they see themselves digging their graves deeper with each reply. but they're too chicken to admit their mighty "ideology" is built on nothing but diarrhea of stereotypes that crumbles easily and smells like dead rat.

another thing is that they have non-white friends and hence walk on eggshells daily, not even realizing they pander to them when saying **** like "oh, my non-white friend just wanted to dress like a half-elf, what's the big deal" or "they just wanted to see themselves in the game, what's wrong with them using ****** preset, chill". they can't say ******* and the rest are not for medieval fantasy, can't say only few find ******* attractive, can't say ******* fit fantasy per se, can't say nobody wants to see ****** culture implemented in a world with elves and dwarfs, etc.

[Pixelargh]

Thank you for this mod. I don't really mind about Aylin, Sebastian or Nocturne but the huge amount of minor LGBT NPCs felt a lot like pandering. I don't suppose it's possible to have a version that leaves Major and quest-related NPCs alone and only changes the minor NPCs and flavor text?

[CheesusCrust]

Thank you for this mod. I don't really mind about Aylin, Sebastian or Nocturne but the huge amount of minor LGBT NPCs felt a lot like pandering. I don't suppose it's possible to have a version that leaves Major and quest-related NPCs alone and only changes the minor NPCs and flavor text?

while Sebastian is debatable, the rest is the reason this mod was created in the first place. and a reminder - there are no other letters than LGB. alphabets after letter "B" are fetishists and those following ******** stereotypes. those who support alphabets and say "i don't have anything against them coz they didn't do anything to me" are spineless people unable to use logic.

[orinEsque]

I came across this site through a Steam discussion. I don't need to mention how those alphabet fanatics flocked the thread with senseless "phobic" insults.
The funniest part I've found so far regarding those people, is that no matter how many facts you present to them, which are based on reality and statistics. They either insult you or derail the topic, because they don't have any counter-argument.
It feels like talking to an NPC, who doesn't have more than 5 lines in his arsenal.

they can't response because they see themselves digging their graves deeper with each reply. but they're too chicken to admit their mighty "ideology" is built on nothing but diarrhea of stereotypes that crumbles easily and smells like dead rat.

another thing is that they have non-white friends and hence walk on eggshells daily, not even realizing they pander to them when saying **** like "oh, my non-white friend just wanted to dress like a half-elf, what's the big deal" or "they just wanted to see themselves in the game, what's wrong with them using ****** preset, chill". they can't say ******* and the rest are not for medieval fantasy, can't say only few find ******* attractive, can't say ******* fit fantasy per se, can't say nobody wants to see ****** culture implemented in a world with elves and dwarfs, etc.

Hmm I don't think these people have friends or give a **** about minorities [they are more racist than people on this forum imo: "boohoo they are oppressed and can't fend for themselves, poor subhumans," is their mantra. Btw The exact same few people are on every conversation, talking about alphabet activism in games. They sound like hired shills or no lifers or bots. also LGBTQ identity politics isn't about respecting minorities. Its about establishing undeserved power for self. And troonism is the easiest way for white, loser men with no skills or talent to exercise undeserved power on the same cult hierarchy where their worth is at the bottom.

[Mesa9988]

Thank you for this mod. I don't really mind about Aylin, Sebastian or Nocturne but the huge amount of minor LGBT NPCs felt a lot like pandering. I don't suppose it's possible to have a version that leaves Major and quest-related NPCs alone and only changes the minor NPCs and flavor text?

Heh for me it's the other way around. The minor NPCs I would probably not notice or just cringe a little. But the rest, especially Nocturne, that seems to be thrown in your face because......well because do bother me.

Lucretious is meh too. I can follow the Idea that it's in a Circus but a character in Baldurs Gate based on a RL Drag Queen I find still unfitting.

[Mesa9988]

"Californian"
That's spot-on lmao

I'm German so eh, I don't get it I think

[orinEsque]

"Californian"
That's spot-on lmao

I'm German so eh, I don't get it I think

Imagine capital of everything woke.

[CheesusCrust]

Lucretious is meh too. I can follow the Idea that it's in a Circus but a character in Baldurs Gate based on a RL Drag Queen I find still unfitting.

what bothers me is the fact this pile of crap is an ELF that's the most disgusting and disrespectful **** I've ever seen - and that's on top of the fact they gave him a double chin and nigro face. wish someone renamed his race to "clown". or just set to human and gave him human ears. that's not a ******* elf, it's a bloody abomination.

[orinEsque]

Lucretious is meh too. I can follow the Idea that it's in a Circus but a character in Baldurs Gate based on a RL Drag Queen I find still unfitting.

what bothers me is the fact this pile of crap is an ELF that's the most disgusting and disrespectful **** I've ever seen - and that's on top of the fact they gave him a double chin and nigro face. wish someone renamed his race to "clown". or just set to human and gave him human ears. that's not a ******* elf, it's a bloody abomination.

Oh lol, it's an elf? Not even a half elf i didn't even realize!. Might detroon him actually lol.

[Cipher]

Thank you for this mod. I don't really mind about Aylin, Sebastian or Nocturne but the huge amount of minor LGBT NPCs felt a lot like pandering. I don't suppose it's possible to have a version that leaves Major and quest-related NPCs alone and only changes the minor NPCs and flavor text?

Heh for me it's the other way around. The minor NPCs I would probably not notice or just cringe a little. But the rest, especially Nocturne, that seems to be thrown in your face because......well because do bother me.

Lucretious is meh too. I can follow the Idea that it's in a Circus but a character in Baldurs Gate based on a RL Drag Queen I find still unfitting.

Lucretious and the females with beards do not make sense because, if we are to believe the idea of being a troony is to "transition" from one gender to another, then D&D has magic for that, no need for "hormone potion once a month" or looking like a woman with a man's voice or beard.

They can just become fully female through magic.

But its not about that. Its about creating a mafia of protected class. Altogether, every single alphabet banded together, conform just 7% of the US population. And the US is one of the countries with the most acceptance and celebration of the alphabet culture so they should be no reason to hide their allegiance.

Not even cracking double digits. But, because nowadays everywhere is filled with the alphabet crowd, one would think that being an alphabet is not only normal but fairly common. Its not.

Same with the sudden rise of vitiligo pandering.

There's no one clapping in social media if your kid gets diagnosed with schizophrenia. But, if its gender dysphoria then suddenly its a celebrity moment.

I pray for the souls of the mentally ill. But we are well beyond "acceptance" and "celebration". Nowadays is "you WILL bow down to the whims of the alphabet mafia, or else..."

[Oyster Sauce]

Lucretious is meh too. I can follow the Idea that it's in a Circus but a character in Baldurs Gate based on a RL Drag Queen I find still unfitting.

what bothers me is the fact this pile of crap is an ELF that's the most disgusting and disrespectful **** I've ever seen - and that's on top of the fact they gave him a double chin and nigro face. wish someone renamed his race to "clown". or just set to human and gave him human ears. that's not a ******* elf, it's a bloody abomination.

Oh lol, it's an elf? Not even a half elf i didn't even realize!. Might detroon him actually lol.

Now guess which subrace the dark purple elf is. Hint: not drow.

[Pixelargh]

Thank you for this mod. I don't really mind about Aylin, Sebastian or Nocturne but the huge amount of minor LGBT NPCs felt a lot like pandering. I don't suppose it's possible to have a version that leaves Major and quest-related NPCs alone and only changes the minor NPCs and flavor text?

Heh for me it's the other way around. The minor NPCs I would probably not notice or just cringe a little. But the rest, especially Nocturne, that seems to be thrown in your face because......well because do bother me.

Lucretious is meh too. I can follow the Idea that it's in a Circus but a character in Baldurs Gate based on a RL Drag Queen I find still unfitting.

Funny how that works. To me the pandering doesn't come from LGBT people being in the game per se but the sheer amount of them and also the writing of them. It's not realistic just to announce your husband or wife out of nowhere. The Last of Us part 1 did that much better with the ***** relationship it included. That's why I don't care about Aylin or Sebastian but all the gnomes being gay is cringe to me.

[CheesusCrust]

Oh lol, it's an elf? Not even a half elf i didn't even realize!. Might detroon him actually lol.

thought it's Better Aesthetics' specialization? nevertheless would've been ******* awesome

[orinEsque]

Oh lol, it's an elf? Not even a half elf i didn't even realize!. Might detroon him actually lol.

thought it's Better Aesthetics' specialization? nevertheless would've been ******* awesome

No he falls into a fake ***** category.

[Anon]

Btw Orin do you have any data how many people downloaded and/or utilize your mods? Would be interesting having an idea how many people are interested in removing identity politics from their game and even looking in a relatively unknown forum for them

[orinEsque]

Btw Orin do you have any data how many people downloaded and/or utilize your mods? Would be interesting having an idea how many people are interested in removing identity politics from their game and even looking in a relatively unknown forum for them

Nope. @rusty_shackleford hasnt implemented a download counter yet. I would think being in a lesser known forum affects the real number of downloads we would get but still should be a good number.

[Cipher]

Thank you for this mod. I don't really mind about Aylin, Sebastian or Nocturne but the huge amount of minor LGBT NPCs felt a lot like pandering. I don't suppose it's possible to have a version that leaves Major and quest-related NPCs alone and only changes the minor NPCs and flavor text?

Heh for me it's the other way around. The minor NPCs I would probably not notice or just cringe a little. But the rest, especially Nocturne, that seems to be thrown in your face because......well because do bother me.

Lucretious is meh too. I can follow the Idea that it's in a Circus but a character in Baldurs Gate based on a RL Drag Queen I find still unfitting.

Funny how that works. To me the pandering doesn't come from LGBT people being in the game per se but the sheer amount of them and also the writing of them. It's not realistic just to announce your husband or wife out of nowhere. The Last of Us part 1 did that much better with the ***** relationship it included. That's why I don't care about Aylin or Sebastian but all the gnomes being gay is cringe to me.

For me, the thing about Aylin is that they are eating their tonsils and dry humping for like 2 minutes and the game forces you to watch.

Yeah, you can skip cutscenes but what if you miss some plot development? Who knows what they will say when they eventually stop.

Yes, there's also the dry humping your character can do with other NPC, but that's a Player choice. The way Aylin and Isobel scene plays out its really to rub it in the Player's eyes and to let you know just how gay they are for each other.

Think of all the media when lovers are reunited. They usually just embrave lovingly while the camera rotates around them and then they kiss. None of this dry humping or tonsil eating.

And no man or woman replicates a scene like that in the game.

That's the problem. It has never been about representation. Its about making them a parade and forcing everyone to cheer and clap or ELSE.

If they really care for actual representation then they would include around 7 alphabet characters for every 100 voiced/named characters. But in this game is almost like 25% or so, or at least it feels that way because they beat you over the head about their gayness and how gay they are and how that makes them special.

That's the problem. A character could be written well and have an actual personality and, y'know, character. And then just so happen to be gay.

But nowadays, its always the man talking about their husband out of nowhere just so the audience knows they are gay. Its about rainbow flags. And about tonsil eating and dry humping on camera so the wokesters can cry and clap at the screen while everyone else rolls their eyes.

The normal gut reaction for a man to see two men eating their tonsils is disgust. That doesn't have to become hatred or turn into violence. But, the gut reaction is disgust and its not about "fear" or "phobia" either.

And now you get stuff like the writers of the Last of Us HBO show doing victory laps about how they forced a general audience to watch 40 min of gay romance.

They themselves don't accept their own degeneracy that's why their mafia went way beyond acceptante and then celebration. They have to be everywhere so its not only normalized but enshrined.

They hate being mentally ill so much that they need to be constantly clapped and cheered on so they can cope with their illness.

That's the whole deal behind the "muh pronouns" tantrum. They don't accept themselves as they are but they will put you in jail if you don't play into their illness.

If a person with schizophrenia starts screaming that the shadow people are coming for all us, no one plays along. It is only the special kind of mental illness that is celebrated and rewarded.

[Pixelargh]

Thank you for this mod. I don't really mind about Aylin, Sebastian or Nocturne but the huge amount of minor LGBT NPCs felt a lot like pandering. I don't suppose it's possible to have a version that leaves Major and quest-related NPCs alone and only changes the minor NPCs and flavor text?

Heh for me it's the other way around. The minor NPCs I would probably not notice or just cringe a little. But the rest, especially Nocturne, that seems to be thrown in your face because......well because do bother me.

Lucretious is meh too. I can follow the Idea that it's in a Circus but a character in Baldurs Gate based on a RL Drag Queen I find still unfitting.

Nocturne is handled poorly in the game, ***** or not. Your party just murdered all of Nocturne's friends and she is friendly because of Shadowheart? Nocturne's life journey doesn't mean much apparently. The character is simply poorly written.

[Pixelargh]

Heh for me it's the other way around. The minor NPCs I would probably not notice or just cringe a little. But the rest, especially Nocturne, that seems to be thrown in your face because......well because do bother me.

Lucretious is meh too. I can follow the Idea that it's in a Circus but a character in Baldurs Gate based on a RL Drag Queen I find still unfitting.

Funny how that works. To me the pandering doesn't come from LGBT people being in the game per se but the sheer amount of them and also the writing of them. It's not realistic just to announce your husband or wife out of nowhere. The Last of Us part 1 did that much better with the ***** relationship it included. That's why I don't care about Aylin or Sebastian but all the gnomes being gay is cringe to me.

For me, the thing about Aylin is that they are eating their tonsils and dry humping for like 2 minutes and the game forces you to watch.

Yeah, you can skip cutscenes but what if you miss some plot development? Who knows what they will say when they eventually stop.

Yes, there's also the dry humping your character can do with other NPC, but that's a Player choice. The way Aylin and Isobel scene plays out its really to rub it in the Player's eyes and to let you know just how gay they are for each other.

Think of all the media when lovers are reunited. They usually just embrave lovingly while the camera rotates around them and then they kiss. None of this dry humping or tonsil eating.

And no man or woman replicates a scene like that in the game.

That's the problem. It has never been about representation. Its about making them a parade and forcing everyone to cheer and clap or ELSE.

If they really care for actual representation then they would include around 7 alphabet characters for every 100 voiced/named characters. But in this game is almost like 25% or so, or at least it feels that way because they beat you over the head about their gayness and how gay they are and how that makes them special.

That's the problem. A character could be written well and have an actual personality and, y'know, character. And then just so happen to be gay.

But nowadays, its always the man talking about their husband out of nowhere just so the audience knows they are gay. Its about rainbow flags. And about tonsil eating and dry humping on camera so the wokesters can cry and clap at the screen while everyone else rolls their eyes.

I totally agree with you on this. The problem is not some of the characters are gay. The problem is their appearance is meant to pander or they are simply poorly written.

Ideally, for me, this mod would just remove the tonsil eating, dry humping, the NPCs announcing their ***** status and marital status and that's it. People, no matter their sexuality, don't go about announcing their sexuality or marital status to total strangers. At least not mentally stable people. These characters and scenes are simply poorly written. No need to get rid of the characters or erase their identity, just cut the lines/cutscenes where they announce and pander and that should be fine.

And regarding The Last of Us Tv show, yeah, I couldn't pass episode 1 because the writting was lame and the casting of Ellie was absurd. I didn't continue watching but I heard stories about the rest.