No Alphabets 7.1 — Baldur's Gate 3

[Nobere]

Good day, I just found this website and this mod.
Thank you for creating this.

[BannedForBeingSane]

Those are good mods to increase immersion and make you feel like you don't play in a medieval modern California.

That said, I'll wait for the game to finish updating/adding content until I use those mods.

[cordellwoker]

I really appreciate this mod, and my gratitude goes out to all who ensure that the game development doesn't go full woke.

[RK-9]

Thanks to Reddit and the Streisand effect, I'm here. While I don't agree with some of the interesting language some users here describe certain folks, this place is nevertheless hosting some mods that suit my tastes, this mod being one of them. Thank you for your work on this.

I noticed before Ser Aylin was taken down on Nexus, there was a bug report that the female version still appeared in a specific interaction - I can't remember the details of the report though.

I do not mind subtle depictions of gay relationships, but this game is just WAAY too "in your face" about it. I really liked how the Witcher 3 approached homosexuality - the characters were reluctant to disclose personal information, as-would any REAL person. With enough prying, you could learn more about that if you wanted, and then respond in a way that aligns with your views... In other words, freedom of choice. With as many dialogue options BG3 has, it somehow managed to miss that mark.

Thank you, not only for significantly reducing the occurrences of this kind of stuff, but also for intentionally leaving some in as to reflect a more realistic depiction of demographic. Homosexuality DOES exist, but it's like 6% world population or something - so it makes sense to leave in SOME of it, just by removing the in-your-face stuff. The world of vanilla BG3 is at LEAST 50% gay which is just not at all realistic. I know some people will laugh and say "Yeah a D&D world is tooootally realistic in other ways!" and to that, I say just look at the sexual preferences of ANY species, not just humans. Yeah, gay animals exist too, so it's only logical to say that a fictional race of people would have a similar straight:gay ratio. I get that fantasy worlds are supposed to be, well, fantasy, but it needs to be grounded to some semblance of real life, otherwise it just feels bad.

TL;DR - Based mod is based. Loonies claim it is extremist when in-fact it is way more normal than they ever will be. Thanks!

[Watser]

While I don't agree with some of the interesting language some users here describe certain folks

Release your shackles and you shall be free.

[SniperChris]

Thanks to Reddit and the Streisand effect, I'm here. While I don't agree with some of the interesting language some users here describe certain folks, this place is nevertheless hosting some mods that suit my tastes, this mod being one of them. Thank you for your work on this.

I noticed before Ser Aylin was taken down on Nexus, there was a bug report that the female version still appeared in a specific interaction - I can't remember the details of the report though.

I do not mind subtle depictions of gay relationships, but this game is just WAAY too "in your face" about it. I really liked how the Witcher 3 approached homosexuality - the characters were reluctant to disclose personal information, as-would any REAL person. With enough prying, you could learn more about that if you wanted, and then respond in a way that aligns with your views... In other words, freedom of choice. With as many dialogue options BG3 has, it somehow managed to miss that mark.

Thank you, not only for significantly reducing the occurrences of this kind of stuff, but also for intentionally leaving some in as to reflect a more realistic depiction of demographic. Homosexuality DOES exist, but it's like 6% world population or something - so it makes sense to leave in SOME of it, just by removing the in-your-face stuff. The world of vanilla BG3 is at LEAST 50% gay which is just not at all realistic. I know some people will laugh and say "Yeah a D&D world is tooootally realistic in other ways!" and to that, I say just look at the sexual preferences of ANY species, not just humans. Yeah, gay animals exist too, so it's only logical to say that a fictional race of people would have a similar straight:gay ratio. I get that fantasy worlds are supposed to be, well, fantasy, but it needs to be grounded to some semblance of real life, otherwise it just feels bad.

TL;DR - Based mod is based. Loonies claim it is extremist when in-fact it is way more normal than they ever will be. Thanks!

Whenever someone tells you “but it’s D&D” or any fantasy scenario, ask them if they’d think it was strange if you showed up to the Battle of Helms Deep in your GMC Sierra and the New York Yankees.

A setting being “fantasy” doesn’t justify nonsense. Dragons have existed in Faerun since is started. Not so with strange, outspoken sexual perversion.

[RichardAngerer]

Not sure if I've installed the mod incorrectly but I get this screen when creating a new game on any difficulty.

[BannedForBeingSane]

Not sure if I've installed the mod incorrectly but I get this screen when creating a new game on any difficulty.

God dammit ...

I used to get this glitch. I THINK it's an interference/incompatibility or ABSENSE of the BG3 script extender.

[RichardAngerer]

I found another bug. Tried to continue with my current save and I noticed that fast travel over the map doesn't work anymore.

[The_Mask]

@BannedForBeingSane I really like your nickname. First time I saw it, I smiled. Well chosen.

[BannedForBeingSane]

A setting being “fantasy” doesn’t justify nonsense. Dragons have existed in Faerun since is started. Not so with strange, outspoken sexual perversion.

Well, to be fair, homosexuality also has existed since ancient times. But yes, the fact remains that D&D (and Larian by extension) are now treating it as if it is something that is completely normal and not shunned by the majority of medieval and non-progressive cultures.

And fine, one could argue that a culture or two would be more open to it. But ALL of them? All races, cultures, species, societies are 100% open and accepting of homosexuality? Even evil ones? Even military ones? Not a single person on Faerun isn't a 'bigot' or someone who simply doesn't accept nature 'not working as intended'? It's this complete, utter acceptance that kills the suspension of disbelief.

At least, as a poster correctly said, on the Witcher 3, there would be crossdressers and homosexuals, but they would be closeted, outcasts, or the bolder one would still raise an eyebrow when entering the room. And the writers would treat this matter with respect and good writing.

Honestly, I'm surprised that at some point a Lich doesn't apologize for misgendering a character in BG3.

[rusty_shackleford]

Modern homosexuality as understood by the population at large is a very recent phenomenon, pushed on them by heterosexuals in an attempt to normalize homosexuality. There was no word in the English language to describe the idea of two homosexuals living together until recently.
It's also why people saying things like "greeks were gay" is just… not correct in the least, there is no historical equivalent to what we consider gay.

[BannedForBeingSane]

Modern homosexuality as understood by the population at large is a very recent phenomenon, pushed on them by heterosexuals in an attempt to normalize homosexuality. There was no word in the English language to describe the idea of two homosexuals living together until recently.
It's also why people saying things like "greeks were gay" is just… not correct in the least, there is no historical equivalent to what we consider gay.

It was probably like bareback mountain. People feeling something which weren't sure what it was or if it was normal since it wasn't talked about by almost anyone.

[SniperChris]

Modern homosexuality as understood by the population at large is a very recent phenomenon, pushed on them by heterosexuals in an attempt to normalize homosexuality. There was no word in the English language to describe the idea of two homosexuals living together until recently.
It's also why people saying things like "greeks were gay" is just… not correct in the least, there is no historical equivalent to what we consider gay.

The Greeks and Romans were extremely homophobic and the recent slander of their “openness” to perversion started in the 1970s with spurious evidence. There’s a reason why so many of their insults are just variations of “******.” And it’s not because of some imaginary Hellenic homosexuality where it was okay to be a penetrating ****** but not a penetrated one.

Not to say they were as moral and upright as the Christians that came after, but this modern painting of them accepting sodomy is just a complete fabrication.

[orinEsque]

Thanks to Reddit and the Streisand effect, I'm here. While I don't agree with some of the interesting language some users here describe certain folks, this place is nevertheless hosting some mods that suit my tastes, this mod being one of them. Thank you for your work on this.

I noticed before Ser Aylin was taken down on Nexus, there was a bug report that the female version still appeared in a specific interaction - I can't remember the details of the report though.

I do not mind subtle depictions of gay relationships, but this game is just WAAY too "in your face" about it. I really liked how the Witcher 3 approached homosexuality - the characters were reluctant to disclose personal information, as-would any REAL person. With enough prying, you could learn more about that if you wanted, and then respond in a way that aligns with your views... In other words, freedom of choice. With as many dialogue options BG3 has, it somehow managed to miss that mark.

Thank you, not only for significantly reducing the occurrences of this kind of stuff, but also for intentionally leaving some in as to reflect a more realistic depiction of demographic. Homosexuality DOES exist, but it's like 6% world population or something - so it makes sense to leave in SOME of it, just by removing the in-your-face stuff. The world of vanilla BG3 is at LEAST 50% gay which is just not at all realistic. I know some people will laugh and say "Yeah a D&D world is tooootally realistic in other ways!" and to that, I say just look at the sexual preferences of ANY species, not just humans. Yeah, gay animals exist too, so it's only logical to say that a fictional race of people would have a similar straight:gay ratio. I get that fantasy worlds are supposed to be, well, fantasy, but it needs to be grounded to some semblance of real life, otherwise it just feels bad.

TL;DR - Based mod is based. Loonies claim it is extremist when in-fact it is way more normal than they ever will be. Thanks!

I may have made this mod, but I got nothing against Alphabets. I just don't think there would be openly LGBTQ people in that era. And yes even in this era most people don't go out of their way to tell you who they are ******* in real life with the first sentence they speak. I don't want a nokia 360 ringing in the middle of a sword and magic fantasy, unless it is SPECIFICALLY an isekai

[orinEsque]

Not sure if I've installed the mod incorrectly but I get this screen when creating a new game on any difficulty.

Not sure if I've installed the mod incorrectly but I get this screen when creating a new game on any difficulty.

God dammit ...

I used to get this glitch. I THINK it's an interference/incompatibility or ABSENSE of the BG3 script extender.

I found another bug. Tried to continue with my current save and I noticed that fast travel over the map doesn't work anymore.

Update your script extender. Tell me if the issue persists.

[Deadpan55]

Not sure if I've installed the mod incorrectly but I get this screen when creating a new game on any difficulty.

You need Mod Fixer, or a mod which includes Mod Fixer. BG3MM tells you what mods come with Mod Fixer already baked in.

[Deadpan55]

Modern homosexuality as understood by the population at large is a very recent phenomenon, pushed on them by heterosexuals in an attempt to normalize homosexuality. There was no word in the English language to describe the idea of two homosexuals living together until recently.
It's also why people saying things like "greeks were gay" is just… not correct in the least, there is no historical equivalent to what we consider gay.

The Greeks and Romans were extremely homophobic and the recent slander of their “openness” to perversion started in the 1970s with spurious evidence. There’s a reason why so many of their insults are just variations of “******.” And it’s not because of some imaginary Hellenic homosexuality where it was okay to be a penetrating ****** but not a penetrated one.

Not to say they were as moral and upright as the Christians that came after, but this modern painting of them accepting sodomy is just a complete fabrication.

I wouldn't exactly refer to the Christians as "moral and upright"... Unless you're referring to how they view themselves, then absolutely.

(Coming from someone born into a Christian family btw).

[Deadpan55]

Thanks to Reddit and the Streisand effect, I'm here. While I don't agree with some of the interesting language some users here describe certain folks, this place is nevertheless hosting some mods that suit my tastes, this mod being one of them. Thank you for your work on this.

I noticed before Ser Aylin was taken down on Nexus, there was a bug report that the female version still appeared in a specific interaction - I can't remember the details of the report though.

I do not mind subtle depictions of gay relationships, but this game is just WAAY too "in your face" about it. I really liked how the Witcher 3 approached homosexuality - the characters were reluctant to disclose personal information, as-would any REAL person. With enough prying, you could learn more about that if you wanted, and then respond in a way that aligns with your views... In other words, freedom of choice. With as many dialogue options BG3 has, it somehow managed to miss that mark.

Thank you, not only for significantly reducing the occurrences of this kind of stuff, but also for intentionally leaving some in as to reflect a more realistic depiction of demographic. Homosexuality DOES exist, but it's like 6% world population or something - so it makes sense to leave in SOME of it, just by removing the in-your-face stuff. The world of vanilla BG3 is at LEAST 50% gay which is just not at all realistic. I know some people will laugh and say "Yeah a D&D world is tooootally realistic in other ways!" and to that, I say just look at the sexual preferences of ANY species, not just humans. Yeah, gay animals exist too, so it's only logical to say that a fictional race of people would have a similar straight:gay ratio. I get that fantasy worlds are supposed to be, well, fantasy, but it needs to be grounded to some semblance of real life, otherwise it just feels bad.

TL;DR - Based mod is based. Loonies claim it is extremist when in-fact it is way more normal than they ever will be. Thanks!

We have very similar perspectives regarding Baldur's Gate 3 and the discussions surrounding the game... Agreed, 100%.

[Tipfy]

@RichardAngerer I had the same issue once, because i had forgot to install the mod "Mod Fixer".
Here it is ; https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/141

[WhiteShark]

I wouldn't exactly refer to the Christians as "moral and upright"... Unless you're referring to how they view themselves, then absolutely.

(Coming from someone born into a Christian family btw)

I doubt you have any idea how deeply Christianity has shaped your own morals and those of society at large. Christians aren't perfect, but Christianity has had an absolutely transformative effect on every culture it has touched. The early Christians in particular, whom you seem to be criticizing here, were such moral exemplars that they were willing to die professing their beliefs without lifting a hand against anyone, so deep was their love for God and man.

[Deadpan55]

I wouldn't exactly refer to the Christians as "moral and upright"... Unless you're referring to how they view themselves, then absolutely.

(Coming from someone born into a Christian family btw)

I doubt you have any idea how deeply Christianity has shaped your own morals and those of society at large. Christians aren't perfect, but Christianity has had an absolutely transformative effect on every culture it has touched. The early Christians in particular, whom you seem to be criticizing here, were such moral exemplars that they were willing to die professing their beliefs without lifting a hand against anyone, so deep was their love for God and man.

You're right, I was indeed referring to the "early Christians". More specifically, some of the atrocities committed by the Christian faith throughout history.

Having said that, I do acknowledge what you said as being true as well. The truth is none of us are perfect, and sometimes we have to accept the good with the bad.

Honestly, as it concerns human nature, we could go on and on... But I'll leave it there.

[CheesusCrust]

can i give here a shoutout to the dm that booted me out of his server with a ridiculously bs exuse after seeing my saved links to this godly forum?

[Deadpan55]

Thanks to Reddit and the Streisand effect, I'm here. While I don't agree with some of the interesting language some users here describe certain folks, this place is nevertheless hosting some mods that suit my tastes, this mod being one of them. Thank you for your work on this.

I noticed before Ser Aylin was taken down on Nexus, there was a bug report that the female version still appeared in a specific interaction - I can't remember the details of the report though.

I do not mind subtle depictions of gay relationships, but this game is just WAAY too "in your face" about it. I really liked how the Witcher 3 approached homosexuality - the characters were reluctant to disclose personal information, as-would any REAL person. With enough prying, you could learn more about that if you wanted, and then respond in a way that aligns with your views... In other words, freedom of choice. With as many dialogue options BG3 has, it somehow managed to miss that mark.

Thank you, not only for significantly reducing the occurrences of this kind of stuff, but also for intentionally leaving some in as to reflect a more realistic depiction of demographic. Homosexuality DOES exist, but it's like 6% world population or something - so it makes sense to leave in SOME of it, just by removing the in-your-face stuff. The world of vanilla BG3 is at LEAST 50% gay which is just not at all realistic. I know some people will laugh and say "Yeah a D&D world is tooootally realistic in other ways!" and to that, I say just look at the sexual preferences of ANY species, not just humans. Yeah, gay animals exist too, so it's only logical to say that a fictional race of people would have a similar straight:gay ratio. I get that fantasy worlds are supposed to be, well, fantasy, but it needs to be grounded to some semblance of real life, otherwise it just feels bad.

TL;DR - Based mod is based. Loonies claim it is extremist when in-fact it is way more normal than they ever will be. Thanks!

Whenever someone tells you “but it’s D&D” or any fantasy scenario, ask them if they’d think it was strange if you showed up to the Battle of Helms Deep in your GMC Sierra and the New York Yankees.

A setting being “fantasy” doesn’t justify nonsense. Dragons have existed in Faerun since is started. Not so with strange, outspoken sexual perversion.

I would expand on this further by saying... just because something is High Fantasy, doesn't justify making it some kind of unrealistic and completely unrelatable free-for-all.

A certain level of realism and relatability CAN exist simultaneously alongside High Fantasy. And the effort as well competency required to achieve such a balance SHOULD be made.

[Tipfy]

Realism is a very different thing from authenticity.

Frog people from space(among other things) is shattering any realism in the game, but they are authentic.
eg; in the sens of their depiction/behavior/way of speaking/the reaction of other npcs to them etc.
Therefore i can suspend my disbelief and immerse myself into a "believable" high-fantasy setting.

On the other hand, having so many lgbt is both shattering realism AND not authentic. A very awful combo.
eg; Having so many of them/being so outspoken about it/npc completely ignoring the deviancy and behaving like it is a normal thing.

Same goes for the racial diversity. It is realist to have a variety of races in the world BUT once again it is extremely poorly implemented, 0 authenticity.
If there was a group/band full of race A, sure. Then a village or city full of race B, sure. A place with 1 or 2 exeptions from other races, why not.
But here every race is jamed all together in all places, it is nonsens.

The very poor/in your face implementation of those make you feel like something is off/wrong wile you play. And this is what it is all about, people are sick of the propaganda.

[Wretch]

Realism is often just an excuse to push degeneracy. Games shouldn’t portray vile things as good or normal, they should be full of beauty and virtue. The only time it’s good to portray this stuff is when the game puts it on display to be defeated.

Old stories, movies, games, etc all contain the same story of Truth, goodness, love overcoming evil. Only in very recent modern times are there now stories actively promoting depravity.

[Ratcatcher]

interesting language

Lmao.

I'm pretty sure this place is actually far more diverse than most of the places calling us names.

Welcome to all new users.

[Acrux]

Realism is often just an excuse to push degeneracy. Games shouldn’t portray vile things as good or normal, they should be full of beauty and virtue. The only time it’s good to portray this stuff is when the game puts it on display to be defeated.

Old stories, movies, games, etc all contain the same story of Truth, goodness, love overcoming evil. Only in very recent modern times are there now stories actively promoting depravity.

I like this new guy very much.

[rusty_shackleford]

Honestly, as it concerns human nature, we could go on and on... But I'll leave it there.

Feel free to ****-fling as much as you want, usually not even that big of a stickler for off-topic posts but I'm probably going to patrol the mod threads a bit more than is usual for this forum. I'll shuffle these posts around in a bit.

[The_Mask]

Hi, new member, etc.

I think you need a couple of posts before you can shitpost and rate just like everyone else. We simply want to filter spam, and stuff like that. After that, you're more than welcome to contribute to our melting pot of friendship.

EDIT: oopss... it seems you may have a legitimate technical issue. My bad!