Junior Adventurer's Guild: June - Dark Messiah of Might and Magic

[enisey]

Completed in 10-11 hours. @Oyster Sauce badge please.

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Killed Leanna, took power for myself.

Thoughts

I played this around the time it came out. The physics, dismemberment, and use of the environment were mind-blowing at the time. Its age is showing, but I managed to enjoy it. The dark fantasy theme is right up my alley.

I do think there was a missed opportunity. More fleshed out RPG mechanics, an open world, and improved combat would have made it a much more enjoyable game as an RPG. If I instead classify it a relatively linear first-person action game with melee/environmental combat, RPG elements, and classic singleplayer FPS level design, it does all that fairly well, and the formula is decent, but it could definitely be better. I mirror a lot of the sentiments already presented here; poor itemization, not really an RPG, secret areas fun to find but unrewarding.

It does stand out as a pretty unique game, especially from that era, and I can appreciate the novelty. 65/100.


As a side note, has anyone tried The Adventures of Sir Kicksalot? Might try the demo.

[Oyster Sauce]

@rusty_shackleford what do you think are its strengths and weaknesses compared to Arx?

[rusty_shackleford]

@rusty_shackleford what do you think are its strengths and weaknesses compared to Arx?

Been way too long since I've played arx to comment

[Tadeusz]

It's hard to compare Dark Messiah and Arx. I can see game design continuity of Arx in Dark Messiah but Dark Messiah makes an emphasis on its physics engine. Dark Messiah is action-oriented and it improves in this aspect but it also lacks many interactions with the game world that were present in Arx Fatalis (side quests, crafting, economy).

[Tweed]

Arkane carried everything they learned all the way on into Prey. I played most of their games in release order at one point for fun and that design philosophy worked out pretty well for them until they decided that gay race communism and fanfic writers were the better way to go.

[Oyster Sauce]

now we're talking...

[Oyster Sauce]

Remember when games had multiplayer modes?

The surprisingly fun Multiplayer of Dark Messiah; Dead Game Review

[Oyster Sauce]

Excuse me?

[rusty_shackleford]

Excuse me?

Some pirated copies have this, it's the French layout.

[Tweed]

Excuse me?

Some pirated copies have this, it's the French layout.

As if we needed another reason to hate the French.

[Killagain665]

Excuse me?

Some pirated copies have this, it's the French layout.

As if we needed another reason to hate the French.

Yes there are mods calling it "the french bug" that fix it if I remember right.

for other here is a video from a person who isn't as old as your car is.

Quickie - Dark Messiah of Might and Magic

[J1M]

Okay, maybe this is more of an immersive sim than an RPG.

[rusty_shackleford]

Okay, maybe this is more of an immersive sim than an RPG.

It's an action-adventure game with lite RPG elements and half-life physics

[Oyster Sauce]

Okay, maybe this is more of an immersive sim than an RPG.

It's an action-adventure game with lite RPG elements and half-life physics

If it has a badge on the premier RPG forum that means it's an RPG

[Oyster Sauce]

there has never been a game with good night vision

[Finarfin]

Splinter Cell.

[Tweed]

there has never been a game with good night vision

Wrong
Jurassic Park (SNES) Playthrough - NintendoComplete

[roldet]

So why this and Deus Ex are counted as rpgs but not Prey. It also has different progression systems and approaches to challenges, weapons you can main, inventory and different endings. Lack of social interaction?

[Tweed]

Prey is an RPG if System Shock 2 is an RPG and both are more RPGs than this is.

[rusty_shackleford]

So why this and Deus Ex are counted as rpgs but not Prey. It also has different progression systems and approaches to challenges, weapons you can main, inventory and different endings. Lack of social interaction?

Prey isn't an RPG because it's spooky so I never made it past the opening

[Oyster Sauce]

So why this and Deus Ex are counted as rpgs but not Prey. It also has different progression systems and approaches to challenges, weapons you can main, inventory and different endings. Lack of social interaction?

it's not an rpg

[Finarfin]

Alt + Print kept skipping the cutscenes so I had to do the old ghetto way of screenshots. Badge please @Oyster Sauce

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[J1M]

So why this and Deus Ex are counted as rpgs but not Prey. It also has different progression systems and approaches to challenges, weapons you can main, inventory and different endings. Lack of social interaction?

it's not an rpg

I've learned that real rpgs require npcs you can talk to about nothing of import and the ability to sell items to a shop.

[Kolgrim]

So why this and Deus Ex are counted as rpgs but not Prey. It also has different progression systems and approaches to challenges, weapons you can main, inventory and different endings. Lack of social interaction?

Do you mean the real Prey made in 2006 by Human Head Studios or Prey 2017 featuring black goo monsters and *******?

[Finarfin]

Nominating The Witcher 1

[Zess_T]

Has anyone ran into the audio just not working on load? It worked fine yesterday, then loaded it up now and nothing. This game is so jank

[lucky-SVLLa]

So why this and Deus Ex are counted as rpgs but not Prey. It also has different progression systems and approaches to challenges, weapons you can main, inventory and different endings. Lack of social interaction?

In fact, Deus Ex is a very good RPG. As for Prey (2017), its RPG elements are much weaker than those of Deus Ex. However, Prey (2017) is still a decent immersive sim/ARPG. As an ARPG, Prey is still better than Dark Messiah.

[rusty_shackleford]

So why this and Deus Ex are counted as rpgs but not Prey. It also has different progression systems and approaches to challenges, weapons you can main, inventory and different endings. Lack of social interaction?

In fact, Deus Ex is a very good RPG. As for Prey (2017), its RPG elements are much weaker than those of Deus Ex. However, Prey (2017) is still a decent immersive sim/ARPG. As an ARPG, Prey is still better than Dark Messiah.

I did not care for deusex.

[Tweed]

Nominating System Shock 2, no I haven't finished the game yet, but it doesn't take that long so mark it down, I'm good for it.

[Tinky Winky]

So why this and Deus Ex are counted as rpgs but not Prey. It also has different progression systems and approaches to challenges, weapons you can main, inventory and different endings. Lack of social interaction?

Prey isn't an RPG because it's spooky so I never made it past the opening

This game is spookier than Prey though