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Search engines are utterly broken
Search engines are utterly broken
All of them. Google, Bing, DuckDuckGo, Yandex, Yahoo, Searx, Startpage. We know by now that they've switched goals; rather than help you find things, they want to steer you into the direction of political correctness and mass media. The first 30 results are the same article reproduced by 30 fishy pajeet sites, the image reverse search will refuse to give you better image quality, filters can only do so much... we know that if we want to solve certain tech problems, we need to type 'site:www.reddit.com' next to our query. People are using AI for the search needs because it's understood that normal search engines won't help you on that front. What can be done about it? is it a lost cause? why isn't there a single company that realizes there's an untapped market in providing accurate results instead of (((personalized))) ones?
Another example of stuff that worked years ago but now it doesn't and you gotta accept the decline, chud.
Another example of stuff that worked years ago but now it doesn't and you gotta accept the decline, chud.
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wotSegata Sanshiro wrote: ↑ February 26th, 2023, 13:09we know that if we want to solve certain tech problems, we need to type 'site:www.reddit.com' next to our query.
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I know what he means. It's not restricted to tech, either. Sometimes it's just easier to find an answer to some niggling little 'how to' question by searching for a reddit thread specifically than sifting through the garbage search engines turn up.rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ February 26th, 2023, 13:11wotSegata Sanshiro wrote: ↑ February 26th, 2023, 13:09we know that if we want to solve certain tech problems, we need to type 'site:www.reddit.com' next to our query.
Putting before:2020-01-01 next to the query helps filter out the more egregious results. But it doesn't help the scrambled "smart" search results. It also helps alleviate the time scope limiting effect of infinite scrolling.
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Aye, completely broken and utterly useless nowadays. Though its not just because of the bias, most of the internet relevant content seems to have migrated to reddit/instagram/ticktock/discord. Both Instagram and ticktock block webcrawlers, while most people making webpages know how to fool the algorithm.
Its just an absolute mess and there doesnt seem to be an easy fix.
Its just an absolute mess and there doesnt seem to be an easy fix.
Forums used to be easier to search with search engines. But like Lhynn says forum users migrated to reddit/discord/facebook groups. Reddit is heavily censored and the voting system kills interesting discussions. Discord is a tranny hive. Facebook groups used to be the most like old forums, but Facebook groups died and those users aren't returning to forums or making new forums. I heard it's not easy for small businesses and individuals to get their websites listed in search results unless they are familiar with how search engines work. Some of the things I miss the most about the old internet are thoroughly customized webpages made by individuals or small businesses that reflected their personalities.
You can host your own instance and customize it to your needs.
Looking it up directly on 4plebs is necessary if you are looking for something specific that is political. Other search engines will returned junk or left-wing biased results.
I tested this out, and it returned responses to a question that were very tedious and time consuming to find when looking it up earlier. It also linked a superior answer within the first 8 results.
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I noticed a similar problem with email spam filters. 5 years ago it appeared to be a solved problem. Now it shows up in my inbox at least once a week.
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Using this improves search results?
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I found that one of the solutions was to add certain websites to block lists so they don't show up in search results.
It requires more effort, work arounds and digging to find a relevant answer to a question from a search than it did 10 years ago for example. And it's likely to get worse, not better. Depending on how much worse it gets, the person saying "I'm too lazy to google it" might have a fair point.
It requires more effort, work arounds and digging to find a relevant answer to a question from a search than it did 10 years ago for example. And it's likely to get worse, not better. Depending on how much worse it gets, the person saying "I'm too lazy to google it" might have a fair point.
Soon AI will be able to build and host those useless websites cluttering up your search results.
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I've tried using chatGPT in place of traditional google searches when I've looked for random answers, as a starting point of course. If chatGPT doesn't know the answer, it will simply make something up or lie to you.
It seems to give concise and better answers a lot of the time. Then I can tailor specific search engine queries that way. I haven't tried asking chatgpt to make me a search query on a topic, but that might be a viable option too.
It seems to give concise and better answers a lot of the time. Then I can tailor specific search engine queries that way. I haven't tried asking chatgpt to make me a search query on a topic, but that might be a viable option too.
I've had to stop using Brave Search because they put their own AI generated results at the top, which are often nonsense.
It's even worse than Google.Maggot wrote: ↑ March 18th, 2023, 19:27I've had to stop using Brave Search because they put their own AI generated results at the top, which are often nonsense.
https://wiby.me/
Finally something that can cure the internet for good. Look at this wonder. No ad-riddled, jabba the script overloaded crap. Just plain old internet websites and forums.
Geez, the codex is on page 1 of a search as generic as just the term 'rpg'. Not bad. Could do better though: I submitted the HQ to the index.
I wish I had known about this sooner. Let's submit more content to this wonderland.
Finally something that can cure the internet for good. Look at this wonder. No ad-riddled, jabba the script overloaded crap. Just plain old internet websites and forums.
Geez, the codex is on page 1 of a search as generic as just the term 'rpg'. Not bad. Could do better though: I submitted the HQ to the index.
I wish I had known about this sooner. Let's submit more content to this wonderland.
I fucking hate the internet now. The only good thing left is Archive and that might be gone once they lose the lawsuit.
They already are, have been for years.J1M wrote: ↑ March 17th, 2023, 22:15Soon AI will be able to build and host those useless websites cluttering up your search results.
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Even video sharing sites have become unwatchable, other than a few reactionary channels I've basically sworn off them.
On the other hand, it's great not to be subject to the full view of the human asshole while trying to find the nearest BBQ joint.
On the other hand, Goatse is pretty nostalgic at this point.
They are just getting worse and worse. Even trying to find simple stuff is not possible anymore, every search engine will actively ignore your actual query. I am angery.
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take the blackest pill of all: adding "reddit" to the end of each searchSegata Sanshiro wrote: ↑ April 20th, 2024, 13:03They are just getting worse and worse. Even trying to find simple stuff is not possible anymore, every search engine will actively ignore your actual query. I am angery.
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But reddit blocks my vpn servers so I can't even use thatOyster Sauce wrote: ↑ April 20th, 2024, 13:09take the blackest pill of all: adding "reddit" to the end of each searchSegata Sanshiro wrote: ↑ April 20th, 2024, 13:03They are just getting worse and worse. Even trying to find simple stuff is not possible anymore, every search engine will actively ignore your actual query. I am angery.
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I dunno what u guys complain about, you only have to have indepth software knowhow, know exactly what to look for, purposefuly manipulate search results with filters and then manually sift thru waste results.
It's fucking fine.
It's fucking fine.
theres nothing useful to find anyway
Thanks Yandex
The reverse image search that worked so well in the past is now as ineffective as the other search engines by the way. Feels like there's a collective effort in making things as shit as possible to make you despair.
The reverse image search that worked so well in the past is now as ineffective as the other search engines by the way. Feels like there's a collective effort in making things as shit as possible to make you despair.
And that is when you don't get stuck with infinite captchas.Segata wrote: ↑ June 1st, 2024, 00:28Thanks Yandex
The reverse image search that worked so well in the past is now as ineffective as the other search engines by the way. Feels like there's a collective effort in making things as shit as possible to make you despair.
I wonder how much is actual "intent" to destroy searches and how much is putting low intellects in charge of the development resulting in broken and poorly designed tools. Might be a combination of both.
I know Logitech completely destroyed their software utils when they moved to G Hub. They took a completely intuitive and customizable interface utility and then designed it in the most dysfunctional way possible. What used to be changing a hot key or the like in a single interface is now a combination of swapping back and forth between numerous screens and trying to remember which profile you are adjusting, then hitting the key you want to look for so you can click that key to populate the new change, multiple steps to do what used to be done in a single process.
It is so retarded I don't know how the person who designed it could even get past an entry level mathematics course.
I know Logitech completely destroyed their software utils when they moved to G Hub. They took a completely intuitive and customizable interface utility and then designed it in the most dysfunctional way possible. What used to be changing a hot key or the like in a single interface is now a combination of swapping back and forth between numerous screens and trying to remember which profile you are adjusting, then hitting the key you want to look for so you can click that key to populate the new change, multiple steps to do what used to be done in a single process.
It is so retarded I don't know how the person who designed it could even get past an entry level mathematics course.