TT Tilting

[Boontaker]

I started going back to my local LGS for some war gaming and my noooticing was too strong so it got me thinking about players with the same quirks are also the players who tilt the fastest and hardest. For example in the past I have played with individuals who check the order of play EVERY SINGLE TIME, no matter how much time-experience they have with the game, nor how little the model they are checking actually has in terms of special rules. Still they must go line by line making sure they don't accidently forget a single keyword, ability, bonus. I understand for complex games this is acceptable but these people often can't remember the rules even as they are reading them off the text. Asking questions like "this works now doesn't it?", When we have already had this EXACT interaction before 20 mins ago and it didn't apply then nor does it now.

What I have noticed about players like this is they are also the absolute worst when it comes to takebacks/"I didn't mean to"/"I wouldn't have done that" than any other personality I have played with. In a casual setting who cares but when things get competitve these guys go apeshit, imagine a 5 year old on his worst behviour sitting at a table HE SIGNED UP FOR, huffing and puffing red in the face. You can feel the stress eminating off of them like an aura of stench.

What struck me as odd is that, I know this person. Not really know them but the caricature of a war gamer they are portraying, I have sat across from this person easily 50 or more times and they are exactly the same. Now the paranoid side of me is quick to label people who just don't know the rules as cheaters but I try my best not to do this. Yet maybe i'm wrong? Maybe the gaming world is just like the real world, its full of malicious manipulators that play dumb while they lean on the goodwill of more honourable players. Is it all an act to slip through some small cheat? A quarter inch of extra movement here? A nudge in to melee there? When do honest mistakes stop being honest?

At what point do you just tell the guy who doesn't know the rules, doens't bother to learn the rules, and gets mad when he doesn't know the rules to just **** off? And why do so many of this type of player exist?

[J1M]

I hate these extremely selfish people too.

[Stack of Turtles]

If I give you the true answer, WhiteShark will make fun of me again.

[WhiteShark]

Can't speak for wargames, but cheating is rampant in competitive card game play. You can go watch compilations on YouTube of top players getting caught on camera shuffle cheating, "forgetting" to move cards to the graveyard, drawing extra cards, etc. My favorite was the guy who was so wont to put a disadvantageous card on the top of his opponent's deck when cutting it that he accidentally did it when shuffling his own deck.

I say play casually with friends and demand the strictest adherence to the rules with people you don't know. Someone who "accidentally" "forgets" the rules to his advantage repeatedly is almost certainly a cheater; if somehow it were all honest mistakes, then he should be sincerely grateful for correction.

[J1M]

Unless your goal is to enter a slight-of-hand and judge-influencing competition, you should only play card or war games that use a digital implementation for tournaments.

[Tangerine]

If there is a question as to whether something was done due to incompetence or malice, react to it like it's the latter.

[Tweed]

Glad I never got into this stuff now.

[Rand]

When I was much younger, I had a weak impulse towards cheating in games.
Did it a couple of times and never got caught or suspected. Didn't feel rewarding due to me being very low on some psychological traits and very high on others, I suppose.
Made the whole thing feel worthless. I never felt the impulse again.

I very rarely play games but have bumped into cheaters. The moment I detect even the slightest nonsense, I get up, say something like "Congratulations, you won by playing a game about playing a game. You're not worth my time."
It never fails to INFURIATE them.
The majority cheat to feel important and special. What I do completely short circuits that.
1. they don't get to play to the satisfaction of your loss.
2. they're called out and treated like someone worthless, which is the last thing they want.
3. they don't get to argue and manipulate because you just leave and ignore them.

The one time a dude got aggressive, I said "I'd actually love to kick the **** out of you, you cheating piece of ****. C'mon, let's go outside right now and you can experience real loss." he backed off instantly.
Because I was serious, I can fight so I'm completely unafraid and they can see it, and it helps that I'm 190cm and 100kg.