Should we post our mods on Nexus?

[Valter]

Keeping your mods on there, or adding them is actively generating shekels for its jewish owners (who hate you), and taking shekels away from our jewish owner (who may or may not hate you. I'm not sure).

**** Nexus.

This is assuming ad revenue is a relevant part in the modding scene. Seeing as people who mod their games are not technically illiterate, I expect most of them to be running adblockers. What is unquestionably happening is you're sucking away free storage and bandwith from nexus and raising awareness of your content. And if the content gets banned, people who like the mod will be asking questions, and find their way to other platforms that host it.

[sheet]

Orin is right on this in not making it a big deal.

Old internet didn't have to have laundry lists of "rules" and "codes of conduct" when you joined a hosted Team Fortress Classic or Counter-Strike server. If admins thought you were a detriment, they'd just ban you. I expect this from stuff that doesn't really "matter" like 3rd party game mods.

You're probably so entrenched in expecting "rules-based" management, as that's something that can work in cooperative, functional societies, but leftists simply ignore the rules for their side and their hordes. You see this in everything they are in charge of. There's literally not a single issue or agency that follows the letter or spirit of the law in absolution. "Rules for thee..." applies to everything they operate. They see themselves as "fighting the power" rebels even while they control every branch of instiutional power.

TL;DR, you're a fool for expecting leftists to follow their own rules set if there's simply something they don't like, and wasting time cowtowing to rules they won't honor is pointless.

[TKVNC]

Keeping your mods on there, or adding them is actively generating shekels for its jewish owners (who hate you), and taking shekels away from our jewish owner (who may or may not hate you. I'm not sure).

**** Nexus.

This is assuming ad revenue is a relevant part in the modding scene. Seeing as people who mod their games are not technically illiterate, I expect most of them to be running adblockers. What is unquestionably happening is you're sucking away free storage and bandwith from nexus and raising awareness of your content. And if the content gets banned, people who like the mod will be asking questions, and find their way to other platforms that host it.

If they never come here, they will never be exposed to HQ Platinum begging.

[Magick]

I will keep the description as formal as it was the first time i posted on RPGHQ, in case you're feeling betrayed Lore.

It's not about being betrayed but having our modding hobby be redirected into pure culture warfare. I think there's a world of difference between "We can increase visibility on the mods we made" vs "What we're doing is intense tactical guerilla warfare to influence the masses and must direct our attention to doing painstaking moderation to keep ourselves platformed and reach as many people as possible. This is WAR". Something about the latter just feels off to me, and incongruent and out of touch with what we actually do here. And the suggestion comes from people with very little respect for this place or what we've built, and who don't have any intention of being engaged in the community or would ever mod anything themselves.

I think the dude was genuinely trying to help, but it was the tone that was wrong, rather than the underlying message.
As to a holy war, you're already in one and have been for a long time. That's why you're boxed into not being able to post your mods anywhere other than here and everything is full of faggotry. If Rusty ever shuts this forum, where are you gonna go then? The only mods that exist will be ***** ones.
If some minor amendments and intelligent plays let you gain some ground where until now it's only been ceded, that let's you have more room (acceptance-wise) to explore your hobby.
We're all the "I just wanted to play videogames" meme, and yet here we are, with games and mods full of ******* politics, grr. But no pushback at all isn't going to help that. They're coming for your hobbies whether you like it or not, as they have been for the last 15+ years.

Agreed that dedicating too much time & attention will have the same outcome (not being able to enjoy one's hobbies). But where some minor plays can be made to potentially get some "wins" (whether it's swaying public opinion / optics, gained ground or just ****** crying) then some manoeuvres could be worth considering.
Personally opting out is absolutely fine, but others may want a crack where the opportunity arises.

But as to Nexus, I don't think that's currently an avenue due to the staff being the same. The "selling" was clearly just the *** founder opting out of the day to day "business" stuff, as you do when you get rich.

[loregamer]

If Rusty ever shuts this forum, where are you gonna go then?

I am Rusty's successor should he ever die. He has "loregamer the ncr ranger pfp guy" in his will (I saw it in a dream)

[orinEsque]

I see the activity of modding as something either I do for myself or something I do for fun with my friends.

The portion that comes after... sharing the mods. I tend to be formal about it. Documented, and formal.

With this culture war stuff, yeah for shits and giggles watching everyone trolling nexus was fun. But no I'm not gonna engage in "guerilla warfare" nonsense. I'll upload stuff if i feel like it.

People are welcome to suggest "hey do it like this, or you'll get banned", and I'll think about it. but turning it into a "YOU MUST DO THIS OR WE LOSE THE WAR". nah. Not my thing.

[loregamer]

Agreed that dedicating too much time & attention will have the same outcome (not being able to enjoy one's hobbies). But where some minor plays can be made to potentially get some "wins" (whether it's swaying public opinion / optics, gained ground or just ****** crying) then some manoeuvres could be worth considering.
Personally opting out is absolutely fine, but others may want a crack where the opportunity arises.

But as to Nexus, I don't think that's currently an avenue due to the staff being the same. The "selling" was clearly just the *** founder opting out of the day to day "business" stuff, as you do when you get rich.

I'm not against increasing outreach and visibility on our mods, the opposite really. But in this particular case of "Go post your mods on Nexus NOW and MODERATE IT INTENSELY", I am strongly against. I find it degrading and at odds with everything we do here. It's also why I strongly feel we shouldn't moderate how we act here too much. We shouldn't try to make ourselves too appealable, because then we've lost what was appealing in the first place.

If they feel strongly that "get this platformed on Nexus and watch it like a hawk to make sure it's not removed" is what's needed, I think it should be delegated fully to @bennylava or @UsernameMustBeBetwee, with our only intervention being giving them mod versions for uploading there. The assumption it has to be done by our mod authors is already too much in the territory of "mod authors own their mods", and is a huge distraction and would pivot everything. There's nothing stopping Marketing Bros from just reuploading our mods and doing the performative jester dance for Nexus jannies themselves.

[loregamer]

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[Magick]

Agreed that dedicating too much time & attention will have the same outcome (not being able to enjoy one's hobbies). But where some minor plays can be made to potentially get some "wins" (whether it's swaying public opinion / optics, gained ground or just ****** crying) then some manoeuvres could be worth considering.
Personally opting out is absolutely fine, but others may want a crack where the opportunity arises.

But as to Nexus, I don't think that's currently an avenue due to the staff being the same. The "selling" was clearly just the *** founder opting out of the day to day "business" stuff, as you do when you get rich.

I'm not against increasing outreach and visibility on our mods, the opposite really. But in this particular case of "Go post your mods on Nexus NOW and MODERATE IT INTENSELY", I am strongly against. I find it degrading and at odds with everything we do here. It's also why I strongly feel we shouldn't moderate how we act here too much. We shouldn't try to make ourselves too appealable, because then we've lost what was appealing in the first place.

If they feel strongly that "get this platformed on Nexus and watch it like a hawk to make sure it's not removed" is what's needed, I think it should be delegated fully to @bennylava or @UsernameMustBeBetwee, with our only intervention being giving them mod versions for uploading there. Having our mod authors do it themselves is already too much in the territory of "mod authors own their mods", and is a huge distraction and would pivot everything. There's nothing stopping Marketing Bros from just reuploading our mods and doing the performative jester dance for Nexus jannies themselves.

No need to moderate how you act here. But IF going elsewhere then get your suit and tie on or whatever's appropriate to the venue, lol. Normies aren't sat screaming ****** all day.
The guy who was posting was genuinely trying to help, I feel. He'd read it had been sold, seen an example of another mod getting away with it, and was just trying to instruct "how" to go about doing the same, presuming you'd want to.
His tone and word choices were off, that was all. The underlying message was benign enough, "Do this if you want to gain more exposure, and put your mods there and potentially have them stay up".

As Orin posted though all the race/gender wording is still in Nexus terms / conditions and 75% of staff is the same. They've just added the "Real World Issues" tag to get the ******* ****** to shut up about some of the more milder ones. (Idiots learned that apologising only encourages them to get more rabid), so they can say "filter it then". For some of the more egregious ones though, they'll likely side with the ***** onslaught as that will be easier / cheaper.
It's not like they actually have any principles, other than what "looks" the best for them.

[Lancaster]

What about a link in the description to route the comments elsewhere?

[loregamer]

What about a link in the description to route the comments elsewhere?

I think they remove links to rpghq when they see them, but they don't ban over it

[orinEsque]

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[DecadeRiptide]

@orinEsque why do you want your mods on nexus though? I see many modders want to put their mods on nexus. Is it because of the payout thing you can get? Honestly if I was a modder I don't think I'd care much about the Nexus

[loregamer]

@orinEsque why do you want your mods on nexus though? I see many modders want to put their mods on nexus. Is it because of the payout thing you can get? Honestly if I was a modder I don't think I'd care much about the Nexus

She likes download counts

[orinEsque]

@orinEsque why do you want your mods on nexus though? I see many modders want to put their mods on nexus. Is it because of the payout thing you can get? Honestly if I was a modder I don't think I'd care much about the Nexus

What lore said . Also for more people to know that such things exist.

There's a conspiracy here to give me -7 download counts on HQ

[The_Mask]

Please take a moment to read something completely useless, but wholesome:

I don't have a NEXUS Mods account.

Thank you. Have a wonderful day.

[rusty_shackleford]

I'll adjust it to -9

[sheet]

I had one because I liked the mod autoinstaller for Bethesda games, but deleted it once they started woke-purging

[TKVNC]

Please take a moment to read something completely useless, but wholesome:

I don't have a NEXUS Mods account.

Thank you. Have a wonderful day.

I kind of don't have one anymore. Lost my free no ads (not that I had them anyway, lol, lmao even)

[Maledict]

I deleted my Nexus Mods account after discovering RPG HQ. Mind you, even with the acc, I used adblock. I don't **** hoes with no condom.

[Kalarion]

Whoever split this thread out of whatever modtroon subforum drama thread, it should probably go there instead of in the Foundry.

[loregamer]

Whoever split this thread out of whatever modtroon subforum drama thread, it should probably go there instead of in the Foundry.

I think we can’t split regular threads to mod section, not sure though

[orinEsque]

Whoever split this thread out of whatever modtroon subforum drama thread, it should probably go there instead of in the Foundry.

This is why I told rusty way back when, to make the mod development section a different forum. Foundry will be entrenched with mod talk and you won't get much general gaming foundry talk.

[Norfleet]

Mind you, even with the acc, I used adblock. I don't **** hoes with no condom.

I've always thought of posting a big annoying ad for Adblock on my sites.

[Auld_SnawBeard]

"Should we post our mods on Nexus?"

Yes. Getting normalization-mods normalized on the modding scene is genuinely important. It would be nice to reclaim that slice of sanity.


PS: Dignify is still up, so that's promising

[Norfleet]

You're probably so entrenched in expecting "rules-based" management, as that's something that can work in cooperative, functional societies, but leftists simply ignore the rules for their side and their hordes. You see this in everything they are in charge of. There's literally not a single issue or agency that follows the letter or spirit of the law in absolution. "Rules for thee..." applies to everything they operate. They see themselves as "fighting the power" rebels even while they control every branch of instiutional power.

The only thing that has ever made rules work is the implicit understanding that if they don't follow the rules, we won't either. That's how even something like war could develop rules: they were enforced through threat of reprisal.

[rusty_shackleford]

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It's helpful to remember that outside of the HQ, rules aren't real.

Exhibit A: ModDB scouring someone's internet presence to find a way to stretch their rules to cover people's off-site activity

[orinEsque]

It's helpful to remember that outside of the HQ, rules aren't real.

No flip flopping ever happens in RPGHQ. no siree.

[rusty_shackleford]

No flip flopping ever happens in RPGHQ. no siree.

When this happens the rules get updated