Are video game devs inherently dirty commies, or did blackrock make them that way?

[adad]

AND by gen X men sitting by and not doing enough to stop it. One does not disprove the other.

"stop it"? They're responsible for it, he was posting that because he thought it was the best way to ensure he gets to keep his job by showing what a great ally he is

That's even worse, but again, it doesn't have to be the only reason. Blackrock may have been another strong reason as well.

[Bertram_Tung]

"nooo it wasn't gen X white men specifically ******* over younger white men it was {nebulous evil big corporation}!!! don't blame me!!!"

It's times like this that I miss the ::********:: tag from the codex. I suspect rusty didn't port it over because he probably received it more than anyone.

Are you going to deny that most issues in entertainment right now are due to gen X white men specifically choosing to never hire younger white men so they can appear virtuous?

No, that is largely true, although it wasn't just men, it was also HR women, and elder millennials and younger boomers played a role as well. What I am saying is that those types of people were allowed to thrive and ascend to positions of power in their companies while more normal, less ideological employees were pushed out or passed over so they did not hold positions of influence. Again - anyone who has worked in office environments over the past decade plus has seen this happen firsthand.

[Bertram_Tung]

rusty wont respond to any of this btw because he knows he is full of ****

It's because I think morrowind is an awful game liked exclusively by people who don't actually like videogames

This is just a very feminine way of saying you don't like Morrowind, btw.

It was never my cup of tea either, like I said, I got bored and stopped pretty early. But the atmosphere, music, art design, ambition, were all great.

To say it's exclusively liked by people who don't like video games is just girly behavior.

[rusty_shackleford]

rusty wont respond to any of this btw because he knows he is full of ****

It's because I think morrowind is an awful game liked exclusively by people who don't actually like videogames

This is just a very feminine way of saying you don't like Morrowind, btw.

It was never my cup of tea either, like I said, I got bored and stopped pretty early. But the atmosphere, music, art design, ambition, were all great.

To say it's liked by people who don't like video games is just girly behavior.

Weird obsession with me

[Bertram_Tung]

It's because I think morrowind is an awful game liked exclusively by people who don't actually like videogames

This is just a very feminine way of saying you don't like Morrowind, btw.

It was never my cup of tea either, like I said, I got bored and stopped pretty early. But the atmosphere, music, art design, ambition, were all great.

To say it's liked by people who don't like video games is just girly behavior.

Weird obsession with me

This is also very feminine.

[ThulsaDoomer]

You know the writer explicitly said Vivec was born a herm, right?

I don't care what a writer says after he's finished the work that never remotely states the retcon he creates on social media. There is zero in game information to ever indicate Vivec was born a herma, unless I somehow missed something. Most Morrowind enjoyers know that anything Kirkbride says outside the game is to be treated very loosely, especially as he got older and married that forum fangirl who twisted his mind further.

[rusty_shackleford]

There is zero in game information to ever indicate Vivec was born a herma, unless I somehow missed something.

I quoted the books where vivec is called a foid and then gets xhe's head chopped off and used as a fleshlight by molag bal
this is canon

[Tweed]

Sorry, a black scientist in the background of Half-Life isn't the same thing as ******** lecturing the player in Veilgard or being forced to watch gay black teens tongue kiss eachother in Spider-Man. No matter how hard you pretend.

Black science man was such a popular vidya game trope all the way up to the late 2010s.

Tygan is a bro though, I like him.

[ThulsaDoomer]

There is zero in game information to ever indicate Vivec was born a herma, unless I somehow missed something.

I quoted the books where vivec is called a foid and then gets xhe's head chopped off and used as a fleshlight by molag bal
this is canon

I'm not going to get bogged down by people who clearly didn't play the game. I already answered the issue with the sermons. This is now getting tiresome.

[rusty_shackleford]

There is zero in game information to ever indicate Vivec was born a herma, unless I somehow missed something.

I quoted the books where vivec is called a foid and then gets xhe's head chopped off and used as a fleshlight by molag bal
this is canon

I'm not going to get bogged down by people who clearly didn't play the game. I already answered the issue with the sermons. This is now getting tiresome.

If it helps you cope with the game being ****** propaganda, I'll allow it

[Bertram_Tung]

Sorry, a black scientist in the background of Half-Life isn't the same thing as ******** lecturing the player in Veilgard or being forced to watch gay black teens tongue kiss eachother in Spider-Man. No matter how hard you pretend.

Black science man was such a popular vidya game trope all the way up to the late 2010s.

Tygan is a bro though, I like him.

Black science man was a trope since the 60s. That's why it's ******** for stackofturtles to act like that was "pushing the overton window" in 2004.

[Roguey]

reminded of how the guy making outer worlds made a public statement that it's not about politics and nearly his entire dev team attacked him on social media for it

think tim cain did a video where the writing team couldn't even be coordinated or told what to do because they simply wouldn't listen to instructions and just went off and did their own thing and threw out any writing guidelines?
@Roguey ?

I can't recall Tim Cain actually calling out this specific behavior, but Chris Avellone did.

[Bertram_Tung]

"games are just as woke as they were 20 years ago, chud" - roastie_dingleberry

[Stack of Turtles]

Black science man was such a popular vidya game trope all the way up to the late 2010s.

Tygan is a bro though, I like him.

Black science man was a trope since the 60s. That's why it's ******** for stackofturtles to act like that was "pushing the overton window" in 2004.

I didn't say it was, I said it was staying inside the Overton window
It's still woke though!

[Bertram_Tung]

Black science man was such a popular vidya game trope all the way up to the late 2010s.

Tygan is a bro though, I like him.

Black science man was a trope since the 60s. That's why it's ******** for stackofturtles to act like that was "pushing the overton window" in 2004.

I didn't say it was, I said it was staying inside the Overton window
It's still woke though!

then games back then were staying in the overton window and games today try to push (or completely shatter) the overton window

ergo they are rapidly intensifying the rate and amount of wokeness today compared to back then

[Stack of Turtles]

Black science man was a trope since the 60s. That's why it's ******** for stackofturtles to act like that was "pushing the overton window" in 2004.

I didn't say it was, I said it was staying inside the Overton window
It's still woke though!

then games back then were staying in the overton window and games today try to push (or completely shatter) the overton window

ergo they are rapidly intensifying the rate and amount of wokeness today compared to back then

Games today are staying in the overton window as perceived by libtards. That **** is just normal to people now.

[Bertram_Tung]

I didn't say it was, I said it was staying inside the Overton window
It's still woke though!

then games back then were staying in the overton window and games today try to push (or completely shatter) the overton window

ergo they are rapidly intensifying the rate and amount of wokeness today compared to back then

Games today are staying in the overton window as perceived by libtards. That **** is just normal to people now.

I don't think so. People would be buying them more if that were true.

[Norfleet]

How much would I have to pay you to make a game about ********?

400M, apparently.

[Stack of Turtles]

then games back then were staying in the overton window and games today try to push (or completely shatter) the overton window

ergo they are rapidly intensifying the rate and amount of wokeness today compared to back then

Games today are staying in the overton window as perceived by libtards. That **** is just normal to people now.

I don't think so. People would be buying them more if that were true.

have you heard of this game called Baldur's Gate 3 (2023)

[Bertram_Tung]

Games today are staying in the overton window as perceived by libtards. That **** is just normal to people now.

I don't think so. People would be buying them more if that were true.

have you heard of this game called Baldur's Gate 3 (2023)

I think it was an outlier: untapped prestigious legacy IP + long, iterative early-access dev cycle + massive hype and viral memes + perfect market timing + cross-generational nostalgia + official D&D license/cultural legitimacy + influencer/streamer amplification + perceived lack of moralizing + genre scarcity (high-fidelity, big-budget tactical CRPG).

It had a lot going for it. By comparison, the vast majority of woke games have been failing miserably.

[Stack of Turtles]

I don't think so. People would be buying them more if that were true.

have you heard of this game called Baldur's Gate 3 (2023)

I think it was an outlier: untapped prestigious legacy IP + long, iterative early-access dev cycle + massive hype and viral memes + perfect market timing + cross-generational nostalgia + official D&D license/cultural legitimacy + influencer/streamer amplification + perceived lack of moralizing + genre scarcity (high-fidelity, big-budget tactical CRPG).

It had a lot going for it. By comparison, the vast majority of woke games have been failing miserably.

Only among gamers, not among game devs because game devs are woke *******

[adad]

I am patiently waiting for Kalarion to leave reactions for the last 200 posts

[Bertram_Tung]

I am patiently waiting for Kalarion to leave reactions for the last 200 posts

You would not believe my notifications from the last two days, it's crazy dawg

[Norfleet]

have you heard of this game called Baldur's Gate 3 (2023)

BG3 demonstrates that wokeness can succeed if you don't make it the centerpiece of the game. Behind the wokeslop, it was apparently an actually decent game, and while it's THERE, they don't go out of their way to force the player to engage with it like Failguard did. If certain companions weren't to your taste, you weren't obliged to support them. You could even just straight up kill them.

[Norfleet]

Disagree all you want, Oystersauce, but what other explanation do you have for why BG3 was clearly successful by any metric while every other piece of wokeslop crashes and burns spectacularly, even when it is coupled to a major franchise?

[Oyster Sauce]

Disagree all you want, Oystersauce, but what other explanation do you have for why BG3 was clearly successful by any metric while every other piece of wokeslop crashes and burns spectacularly, even when it is coupled to a major franchise?

It's the centerpiece of the game and players are forced to engage in it

[DrSneed]

I am not reading all this, but Rusty is wrong.

[Kolgrim]

Modern devs are agenda driven because DEI practices target fellow leftoids for hiring while excluding anyone apolitical or rightwing. Of course O'Sullivan's law also comes into play as well. BlackRock expedited things because shareholders and CEOs only care about revenue so if someone promises to give them cash for inserting messages into media they'll gladly accept because the only thing they worship is the dollar. It's really just that simple.

A lot of the debate over if woke devs always controlled the industry fails to acknowledge just how far the overton window has shifted. Liberal themes in the 90's for example often meant questioning authority and the government. Games of that era reflected that cultural milieu either explicitly or subconsciously. Liberal themes now consist of things like confronting your parents and telling them you are non-binary. The two can't really be compared as one is more what you would consider traditional liberalism versus Frankfurt school faggotry. It's also worth mentioning that the right has also tried for decades to influence gaming from censoring crosses to having fox news segments fearmongering about sex scenes in Mass Effect. Back then I'm sure none of us here would have sided with soccer moms and Jack Thompson on what gaming should be. Moral of the story is politics are gay and gamers are the most oppressed group.

[weaselus]

This is just a very feminine way of saying you don't like Morrowind, btw.

It was never my cup of tea either, like I said, I got bored and stopped pretty early. But the atmosphere, music, art design, ambition, were all great.

To say it's liked by people who don't like video games is just girly behavior.

Weird obsession with me

This is also very feminine.

Delaying responding in kind to a hostile comment is the mark of personal power and virtue. But rabid plebs such as @logincrash @Kalarion @Bertram_Tung @Tangerine consider it insufficiently alpha. Tell me you are in a different social class without telling me.

[logincrash]

Weird obsession with me

This is also very feminine.

Delaying responding in kind to a hostile comment is the mark of personal power and virtue. But rabid plebs such as @logincrash @Kalarion @Bertram_Tung @Tangerine consider it insufficiently alpha. Tell me you are in a different social class without telling me.