Are video game devs inherently dirty commies, or did blackrock make them that way?

[Stack of Turtles]

I don't get why Bertram spergs this much over a basic concept like "game devs used to have to softball the woke subversion, now they don't".

[Bertram_Tung]

Crassius Curio demands a kiss and for you to undress, this is part of a main quest

That's pretty based of the devs to let you kill and loot a ****** and move on with the main quest since he is not an essential character.

Sounds like those devs must have been extremely right wing, according to your logic.

Crassius is tagged essential, you haven't even played the game

Eh, I played it 20 years ago, never finished it though because I got bored.

It's immaterial though because all you've done is deflect and prove my point. Nothing you've mentioned is remotely close to how pozzed a game like Outer Worlds 2 is, and that was your GOTY.

[Bertram_Tung]

I don't get why Bertram spergs this much over a basic concept like "game devs used to have to softball the woke subversion, now they don't".

That's not rusty's argument. You keep trying to water down what he's saying. You've done it several times, trying to package what he is saying as more reasonable. Quite the loyal dog.

[Stack of Turtles]

I don't get why Bertram spergs this much over a basic concept like "game devs used to have to softball the woke subversion, now they don't".

That's not rusty's argument. You keep trying to water down what he's saying. You've done it several times, trying to package what he is saying as more reasonable.

Maybe you just can't understand what he means due to a defective theory of mind?

[Bertram_Tung]

I don't get why Bertram spergs this much over a basic concept like "game devs used to have to softball the woke subversion, now they don't".

That's not rusty's argument. You keep trying to water down what he's saying. You've done it several times, trying to package what he is saying as more reasonable.

Maybe you just can't understand what he means due to a defective theory of mind?

He adamantly claimed Blackrock and ESG had no effect on the content of modern video games. He's wrong.

He claims the games of today are no more woke than they were 20 years ago.

If his argument was as you claim "Games used to be sometimes mildly left leaning, and they are WAY more extreme left now", which is correct, then we would have no disagreement.

[rusty_shackleford]

all that happened was the censors stopped censoring

[Stack of Turtles]

That's not rusty's argument. You keep trying to water down what he's saying. You've done it several times, trying to package what he is saying as more reasonable.

Maybe you just can't understand what he means due to a defective theory of mind?

He adamantly claimed Blackrock and ESG had no effect on the content of modern video games. He's wrong.

He claims the games of today are no less woke than they were 20 years ago.

If his argument was as you claim "Games used to be sometimes mildly left leaning, and they are WAY more extreme left now", which is correct, then we would have no disagreement.

They AREN'T any less woke. They just use different tactics. So, once again, the problem is that you define "woke" wrongly.

[Stack of Turtles]

Games slowly conditioning you to accept gays and ******** is FINE as long as they stay inside the Overton window the whole time!

[rusty_shackleford]

bunch of libtards that want to go back to 1990s libtardism

[Bertram_Tung]

all that happened was the censors stopped censoring

That's not all that happened.

But it's noteworthy that you've now included that in your argument because it's a point I was making in the Fable thread and you were arguing against it.

The “woke elements” in older media were generally reflective of genuine artistic choices, and often shut down by the publisher.

These days, the publisher push for it 10x more.

So no, the censors didn't just "stop censoring", they go much farther and they push it now.

[Stack of Turtles]

all that happened was the censors stopped censoring

By the way, Blackrock/ESG wasn't the reason this happened

The reason it happened was because a bunch of 90s-libtard execs retired and picked girlbosses as their successors and this caused a preference cascade

[rusty_shackleford]

The “woke elements” in older media were generally reflective of genuine artistic choices, and often shut down by the publisher.

you really need to start researching the people making these games

[Stack of Turtles]

I only want to watch gay sex in my video games if a GENUINE ARTIST decided to put it there! It's only bad if a stuffy guy in a suit did it!

[rusty_shackleford]

reminded of how the guy making outer worlds made a public statement that it's not about politics and nearly his entire dev team attacked him on social media for it

[Bertram_Tung]

Games slowly conditioning you to accept gays and ******** is FINE as long as they stay inside the Overton window the whole time!

Sorry, a black scientist in the background of Half-Life isn't the same thing as ******** lecturing the player in Veilgard or being forced to watch gay black teens tongue kiss eachother in Spider-Man. No matter how hard you pretend.

[Bertram_Tung]

reminded of how the guy making outer worlds made a public statement that it's not about politics and nearly his entire dev team attacked him on social media for it

Have you finished your GOTY Outer Worlds 2 yet, which you claimed wasn't woke at all and you also claimed it had no LGBT characters in it?

[rusty_shackleford]

reminded of how the guy making outer worlds made a public statement that it's not about politics and nearly his entire dev team attacked him on social media for it

think tim cain did a video where the writing team couldn't even be coordinated or told what to do because they simply wouldn't listen to instructions and just went off and did their own thing and threw out any writing guidelines?
@Roguey ?

[rusty_shackleford]

Games slowly conditioning you to accept gays and ******** is FINE as long as they stay inside the Overton window the whole time!

Sorry, a black scientist in the background of Half-Life isn't the same thing as ******** lecturing the player in Veilgard or being forced to watch gay black teens tongue kiss eachother in Spider-Man. No matter how hard you pretend.

[Bertram_Tung]

The “woke elements” in older media were generally reflective of genuine artistic choices, and often shut down by the publisher.

you really need to start researching the people making these games

So now you're claiming the devs didn't choose to add in the left wing elements.

[Stack of Turtles]

Games slowly conditioning you to accept gays and ******** is FINE as long as they stay inside the Overton window the whole time!

Sorry, a black scientist in the background of Half-Life isn't the same thing as ******** lecturing the player in Veilgard or being forced to watch gay black teens tongue kiss eachother in Spider-Man. No matter how hard you pretend.

That's the thing you need to understand: From an extratemporal standpoint, they ARE the same thing, because A leads to B as a natural syllogism.

[Bertram_Tung]

Sorry, a black scientist in the background of Half-Life isn't the same thing as ******** lecturing the player in Veilgard or being forced to watch gay black teens tongue kiss eachother in Spider-Man. No matter how hard you pretend.

That was Half Life 2, Not Half Life 1.

[Stack of Turtles]

I admit I do feel bad for @Humbertram now that I know he has to sit in the **** chair at his own birthday party.

[Bertram_Tung]

Sorry, a black scientist in the background of Half-Life isn't the same thing as ******** lecturing the player in Veilgard or being forced to watch gay black teens tongue kiss eachother in Spider-Man. No matter how hard you pretend.

That's the thing you need to understand: From an extratemporal standpoint, they ARE the same thing, because A leads to B as a natural syllogism.

No, they are not the same thing. You may not have much of an aversion to gay kids tongue kissing each other and being forced to watch it because you literally cannot turn the camera away, but I do.

[Stack of Turtles]

Sorry, a black scientist in the background of Half-Life isn't the same thing as ******** lecturing the player in Veilgard or being forced to watch gay black teens tongue kiss eachother in Spider-Man. No matter how hard you pretend.

That's the thing you need to understand: From an extratemporal standpoint, they ARE the same thing, because A leads to B as a natural syllogism.

No, they are not the same thing. You may not have much of an aversion to gay kids tongue kissing each other and being forced to watch it because you literally cannot turn the camera away, but I do.

Spider-Man happened because you personally believed Half-Life wasn't woke.

[Bertram_Tung]

On the scale of left wing subversion, a secondary (or background in HL1) black scientist character wasn't even pushing the boundary in the 2000s or the 90s. That had been in media since the 60s.

******** and Kids making out is pushing (or completely breaking) the boundaries even today, and has also been soundly rejected by the majority of people.

So it's silly to pretend like both of these examples were as extreme, even proportionally to their respective eras.

[adad]

That's the thing you need to understand: From an extratemporal standpoint, they ARE the same thing, because A leads to B as a natural syllogism.

No, they are not the same thing. You may not have much of an aversion to gay kids tongue kissing each other and being forced to watch it because you literally cannot turn the camera away, but I do.

Spider-Man happened because you personally believed Half-Life wasn't woke.

Two things can be true at once though. This AND Blackrock money.

[Bertram_Tung]

Blackrock, China, ESG, mandatory DEI, etc, accelerated it by about 10,000%.

[wndrbr]

"Stop noticing!"

- Rusty Rosenthal

[rusty_shackleford]

it's exactly what games would have been like without publisher censorship

[Bertram_Tung]

That's the thing you need to understand: From an extratemporal standpoint, they ARE the same thing, because A leads to B as a natural syllogism.

No, they are not the same thing. You may not have much of an aversion to gay kids tongue kissing each other and being forced to watch it because you literally cannot turn the camera away, but I do.

Spider-Man happened because you personally believed Half-Life wasn't woke.

Half Life 1 is not woke. You're a cartoon character if you think that.