Not a theory.rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:02According to your theory, woke is dead now because blackrock is no longer sponsoring it.
And no, your claim is nonsensical. On it's face ********. Unserious.
Not a theory.rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:02According to your theory, woke is dead now because blackrock is no longer sponsoring it.
Didn't you have your LLM summarise the article? This seems to be only instances where they've DIRECTLY voted (rather than funnelling money through downstream middle-men investment companies like mine, with conditions).rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:02According to your theory, woke is dead now because blackrock is no longer sponsoring it
https://www.esgdive.com/news/blackrock- ... on/759918/How's that going?BlackRock’s support for environmental, social proposals dips to less than 2% in 2025
Regardless, just because it doesn't ALWAYS happen or isn't the ONLY factor, doesn't mean it doesn't happen at all.BlackRock said it voted on 36% less environmental and social proposals in the most recent proxy season than in 2024. The firm said the drop was “driven in part by a decrease in proposals filed by advocacy groups,” as well as the Securities and Exchange Commission’s mid-proxy season change to the no-action process.
The asset manager said in its voting spotlight report that it found many of the environmental and social proposals it voted on this year “were overreaching, lacked economic merit or sought outcomes that were unlikely to promote long-term financial value,” and “the majority also addressed business risks that companies already had processes in place to address.”
“Many companies are assessing how to navigate the low-carbon transition while delivering long-term financial value to investors,” the report said. “Over the past several years, [BlackRock] has observed continued evolution in company disclosures related to material climate-related risks. These changes reflect both regulatory developments in various jurisdictions and shifting market practices.”
BlackRock reported rejecting 249 environmental and social proposals due to companies having procedures in place, 112 for being too prescriptive and 33 for lacking economic merit, with some being rejected for multiple reasons.
wait until you guys find out that there's a bigger link between chinese investment and woke games than blackrockBertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:07Not a theory.rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:02According to your theory, woke is dead now because blackrock is no longer sponsoring it.
And no, your claim is nonsensical. On it's face ********. Unserious.

can you tell me what the "E" in ESG stands for?BobT wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:09Didn't you have your LLM summarise the article? This seems to be only instances where they've DIRECTLY voted (rather than funnelling money through downstream middle-men investment companies like mine, with conditions).rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:02According to your theory, woke is dead now because blackrock is no longer sponsoring it
https://www.esgdive.com/news/blackrock- ... on/759918/How's that going?BlackRock’s support for environmental, social proposals dips to less than 2% in 2025
It also seems to be focused on purely on climate initatives, general "woke" isn't mentioned:BlackRock said it voted on 36% less environmental and social proposals in the most recent proxy season than in 2024. The firm said the drop was “driven in part by a decrease in proposals filed by advocacy groups,” as well as the Securities and Exchange Commission’s mid-proxy season change to the no-action process.
The asset manager said in its voting spotlight report that it found many of the environmental and social proposals it voted on this year “were overreaching, lacked economic merit or sought outcomes that were unlikely to promote long-term financial value,” and “the majority also addressed business risks that companies already had processes in place to address.”
“Many companies are assessing how to navigate the low-carbon transition while delivering long-term financial value to investors,” the report said. “Over the past several years, [BlackRock] has observed continued evolution in company disclosures related to material climate-related risks. These changes reflect both regulatory developments in various jurisdictions and shifting market practices.”
BlackRock reported rejecting 249 environmental and social proposals due to companies having procedures in place, 112 for being too prescriptive and 33 for lacking economic merit, with some being rejected for multiple reasons.
Nope, that's not the same thing at all, but I already clarified that we were talking past each other then.Bertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:10Thanks for agreeing with what I said in the Fable thread 2 days ago, @Stack of Turtles. You argued til you were blue in the face that this wasn't true. Glad you have conceded.
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this will drive blackrock-brained people insane because they're almost a 1:1 overlap of "BASED CHYNA!!!!"rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:10wait until you guys find out that there's a bigger link between chinese investment and woke games than blackrock
Joe Larian, of the Trenton, New Jersey Larian family, obviously.
Do you think this is some kinda gotchya, ******? Of course China was involved too. Thanks for conceding that it wasn't organic. Thanks for conceding that it's actually FAR BIGGER than Blackrock.rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:10wait until you guys find out that there's a bigger link between chinese investment and woke games than blackrockBertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:07Not a theory.rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:02According to your theory, woke is dead now because blackrock is no longer sponsoring it.
And no, your claim is nonsensical. On it's face ********. Unserious.
That was my entire argument. Only YOU were talking past it, you shifty little ****.Stack of Turtles wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:11Nope, that's not the same thing at all, but I already clarified that we were talking past each other then.Bertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:10Thanks for agreeing with what I said in the Fable thread 2 days ago, @Stack of Turtles. You argued til you were blue in the face that this wasn't true. Glad you have conceded.
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No, your argument was "only zoomers think old video games were woke because they're jealous they never got to experience a woke-free media".Bertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:16That was my entire argument. Only YOU were talking past it, you shifty little ****.Stack of Turtles wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:11Nope, that's not the same thing at all, but I already clarified that we were talking past each other then.Bertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:10Thanks for agreeing with what I said in the Fable thread 2 days ago, @Stack of Turtles. You argued til you were blue in the face that this wasn't true. Glad you have conceded.
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Ok so this was all about you running cover for Blackrock ****. You never actually thought it was organic, you just didn't want them to be held accountable.rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:12this will drive blackrock-brained people insane because they're almost a 1:1 overlap of "BASED CHYNA!!!!"rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:10wait until you guys find out that there's a bigger link between chinese investment and woke games than blackrock
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Tencent equally has near zero influence on what actually gets madeBertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:18Ok so this was all about you running cover for Blackrock ****. You never actually thought it was organic, you just didn't want them to be held accountable.
Of ******* course China was also heavily involved. DEI mandates are still all over Tencent's website.
This is also true. The ****** have been quite open about it being a fantastic weapon against the west (while protecting themselves from such).rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:10wait until you guys find out that there's a bigger link between chinese investment and woke games than blackrockBertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:07Not a theory.rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:02According to your theory, woke is dead now because blackrock is no longer sponsoring it.
And no, your claim is nonsensical. On it's face ********. Unserious.
Nope, that was a separate issue. I spent 3 pages explaining that devs were co-erced/incentivized to push woke **** due to corporate influence. You, rusty, and rusty's personal ballwasher (oyster) all denied it profusely.Stack of Turtles wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:18No, your argument was "only zoomers think old video games were woke because they're jealous they never got to experience a woke-free media".Bertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:16That was my entire argument. Only YOU were talking past it, you shifty little ****.Stack of Turtles wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:11
Nope, that's not the same thing at all, but I already clarified that we were talking past each other then.
Eventually it became clear that your theory was premised on the assumption that those libtard execs I just mentioned who let woke happen don't count as "woke" in your personal worldview, which is stupid, so I lost interest in discussing it.
Irrelevant.rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:19Tencent equally has near zero influence on what actually gets madeBertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:18Ok so this was all about you running cover for Blackrock ****. You never actually thought it was organic, you just didn't want them to be held accountable.
Of ******* course China was also heavily involved. DEI mandates are still all over Tencent's website.
Just admit you don't believe in a single thing to the same degree libtards believe in putting gay ****** sex in video gamesBertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:22Irrelevant.rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:19Tencent equally has near zero influence on what actually gets madeBertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:18Ok so this was all about you running cover for Blackrock ****. You never actually thought it was organic, you just didn't want them to be held accountable.
Of ******* course China was also heavily involved. DEI mandates are still all over Tencent's website.
Correct, and rusty was claiming it was all 100% organic.BobT wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:19This is also true. The ****** have been quite open about it being a fantastic weapon against the west (while protecting themselves from such).rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:10wait until you guys find out that there's a bigger link between chinese investment and woke games than blackrockBertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:07
Not a theory.
And no, your claim is nonsensical. On it's face ********. Unserious.
This is also why it's so prevalent. There's multiple reasons and different instances for this **** being forced in, it's not just one or the other.
They're not being coerced. That's ultimate attribution error.Bertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:21Nope, that was a separate issue. I spent 3 pages explaining that devs were co-erced/incentivized to push woke **** due to corporate influence. You, rusty, and rusty's personal ballwasher all denied it profusely.Stack of Turtles wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:18No, your argument was "only zoomers think old video games were woke because they're jealous they never got to experience a woke-free media".Bertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:16
That was my entire argument. Only YOU were talking past it, you shifty little ****.
Eventually it became clear that your theory was premised on the assumption that those libtard execs I just mentioned who let woke happen don't count as "woke" in your personal worldview, which is stupid, so I lost interest in discussing it.
Shifting your argument. You just admited you were wrong. Thank you!Stack of Turtles wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:24They're not being coerced. That's ultimate attribution error.Bertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:21Nope, that was a separate issue. I spent 3 pages explaining that devs were co-erced/incentivized to push woke **** due to corporate influence. You, rusty, and rusty's personal ballwasher all denied it profusely.Stack of Turtles wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:18
No, your argument was "only zoomers think old video games were woke because they're jealous they never got to experience a woke-free media".
Eventually it became clear that your theory was premised on the assumption that those libtard execs I just mentioned who let woke happen don't count as "woke" in your personal worldview, which is stupid, so I lost interest in discussing it.
Ignoring the DEI that hired those woke ******* in the first place which was put in place by the same forces.rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:26If someone offered you $1 billion to make a game about how awesome european history is while being 100% accurate, are you being coerced?
The DEI that hired those woke ******* in the first place was put in place by the previous owners of the company at the time you thought it was based.Bertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:27Ignoring the DEI that hired those woke ******* in the first place which was put in place by the same forces.rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:26If someone offered you $1 billion to make a game about how awesome european history is while being 100% accurate, are you being coerced?
Rusty is defeated once again.
Back to pretending ESG wasn't a thing, despite admitting it a few posts ago.Stack of Turtles wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:28The DEI that hired those woke ******* in the first place was put in place by the previous owners of the company at the time you thought it was based.Bertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:27Ignoring the DEI that hired those woke ******* in the first place which was put in place by the same forces.rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:26If someone offered you $1 billion to make a game about how awesome european history is while being 100% accurate, are you being coerced?
Rusty is defeated once again.
Bertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:27**** have the magical ability to corrupt people into wokeness by offering them money, like vampires. It just happens by magic and you can't control it!
The issue here is that you can't see how the argument has been completely consistent this whole time, because you subconciously believe in some kind of magic Jewish mind-control caused by Blackrock money.Bertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:29Back to pretending ESG wasn't a thing, despite admitting it a few posts ago.Stack of Turtles wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:28The DEI that hired those woke ******* in the first place was put in place by the previous owners of the company at the time you thought it was based.Bertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:27
Ignoring the DEI that hired those woke ******* in the first place which was put in place by the same forces.
Rusty is defeated once again.
Cool.
Not interested in the "going in circles" bit. I'll pass.
And if you're making that game, need institutional investment to continue, then suddenly all avenues for that are closed off until you add in a homo relationship for your main char, then what?rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:26If someone offered you $1 billion to make a game about how awesome european history is while being 100% accurate, are you being coerced?
Debt is a thing, ******. I don't believe in mortgages, but I'm forced to have one or not own a house.Stack of Turtles wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:32The issue here is that you can't see how the argument has been completely consistent this whole time, because you subconciously believe in some kind of magic Jewish mind-control caused by Blackrock money.Bertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:29Back to pretending ESG wasn't a thing, despite admitting it a few posts ago.Stack of Turtles wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:28
The DEI that hired those woke ******* in the first place was put in place by the previous owners of the company at the time you thought it was based.
Cool.
Not interested in the "going in circles" bit. I'll pass.
My argument, and I think Rusty is basically saying the same thing, is that ESG money does not change anyone's beliefs. At worst, all it does is update their NPC programming about what the current Nice Liberal Consensus is like when CNN runs a new chyron. Most of the time it's purely telling them what they already know.
Nope, I'm not one of da jooooz crowd, so this strawman wont work on me. Better luck next time!Stack of Turtles wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:32The issue here is that you can't see how the argument has been completely consistent this whole time, because you subconciously believe in some kind of magic Jewish mind-control caused by Blackrock money.Bertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:29Back to pretending ESG wasn't a thing, despite admitting it a few posts ago.Stack of Turtles wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:28
The DEI that hired those woke ******* in the first place was put in place by the previous owners of the company at the time you thought it was based.
Cool.
Not interested in the "going in circles" bit. I'll pass.
I would accept this argument more if I had any evidence of even a single dev reaching the point of having to ask for institutional investment without already being libtarded. Probably if any weren't libtarded they would just make a GiveSendGo.BobT wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:36And if you're making that game, need institutional investment to continue, then suddenly all avenues for that are closed off until you add in a homo relationship for your main char, then what?rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 27th, 2026, 18:26If someone offered you $1 billion to make a game about how awesome european history is while being 100% accurate, are you being coerced?
You can say no **** that, but then your shareholders want their money, your staff gotta eat, and some other CEO who is willing to bend just gets swapped in anyway, then what?
I've seen so many studios start off based indies, then get "corrupted" (financially forced, drowned via bad hiring, or drunk on social media) into going woke.
Regardless, my point about Transistor was that indeed it's a perfect example of a DEV shoving such stuff in (even sneakily), and that it's not (just) being forced/institutional investment.
The point of that sentence was to (mostly) AGREE with your argument.
But of course the Rusty autism OCD cranks in with the "AKSHUAAAALLLYYY"That, or
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I'm curious actually (as going by Steam Achievements it was mid 2014 when I first completed it, so I can't really remember), how woke was SuperGiant games back then?
It can't be THAT bad considering those 3(2) instances above (unless someone cites more), where one is fully ambiguous and the other seems to be retcon or hidden meaning made public only by a single dev.