Fable: The Rings of Power

[rusty_shackleford]

wasn't czechoslovakia one of the relatively normie commie countries, like yugoslavia?
at least, comparatively

[Stack of Turtles]

That's another good example to support what I was saying. The woke artist was fighting to put nigress on the cover. Microsoft was like "**** no, we want to make money".

Today the position would be reversed (if you can actually find a dev who isn't a ****** anymore). Vavra is the nearest example I can think of off the top of my head. He got punished for KCD1 and was forced to bend the knee for KCD2 by corporate overlords. (Yes he may actually be a woke *** himself but I suspect he was buck broken.)

There is not a single dev in the entire world who was forced against his will to include woke things by corporate overlords. It's an urban legend.

[Bertram_Tung]

The incidental genuine artistic choice that wasn't forced by higher up suits in question:

Re-reading this, I’m struggling to see how this is supposed to damage my argument or support yours. It seems like the quotation you shared actually strengthened my point.

You’re giving an example of a developer fighting against the publisher to include same-sex marriage. That’s exactly the kind of artistic choice I was describing, rather than being corporately mandated. Today the positions would be reversed.

I guess if your argument is "Well he was in charge of the studio so he is the higher up!" But being the co-founder of the studio doesn’t erase the fact that he was negotiating against a higher-level corporate entity (Microsoft) that had veto power over the content.

It doesn't matter why every single man in the British fantasy game wants to have gay sex with you

I agree, but the point remains that the quote/story you shared proved my point perfectly.

[Bertram_Tung]

That's another good example to support what I was saying. The woke artist was fighting to put nigress on the cover. Microsoft was like "**** no, we want to make money".

Today the position would be reversed (if you can actually find a dev who isn't a ****** anymore). Vavra is the nearest example I can think of off the top of my head. He got punished for KCD1 and was forced to bend the knee for KCD2 by corporate overlords. (Yes he may actually be a woke *** himself but I suspect he was buck broken.)

There is not a single dev in the entire world who was forced against his will to include woke things by corporate overlords. It's an urban legend.

Nonsense.

[Oyster Sauce]

That's another good example to support what I was saying. The woke artist was fighting to put nigress on the cover. Microsoft was like "**** no, we want to make money".

Today the position would be reversed (if you can actually find a dev who isn't a ****** anymore). Vavra is the nearest example I can think of off the top of my head. He got punished for KCD1 and was forced to bend the knee for KCD2 by corporate overlords. (Yes he may actually be a woke *** himself but I suspect he was buck broken.)

There is not a single dev in the entire world who was forced against his will to include woke things by corporate overlords. It's an urban legend.

Nonsense.

If my boss told me to wear a gay pride shirt I would simply not do it

[rusty_shackleford]

That's another good example to support what I was saying. The woke artist was fighting to put nigress on the cover. Microsoft was like "**** no, we want to make money".

Today the position would be reversed (if you can actually find a dev who isn't a ****** anymore). Vavra is the nearest example I can think of off the top of my head. He got punished for KCD1 and was forced to bend the knee for KCD2 by corporate overlords. (Yes he may actually be a woke *** himself but I suspect he was buck broken.)

There is not a single dev in the entire world who was forced against his will to include woke things by corporate overlords. It's an urban legend.

Up there with the idea that blackrock is going around blackmailing people to put ****** sex in games

all while half the dev team is openly posting about being a cocksucking ****** ****** on twitter

[Stack of Turtles]

Believing that devs get forced to add black women against their wills is the single goyest thing ever.

[Bertram_Tung]

Lol 3 contrarians in a row trying to pretend there weren't DEI mandates at every major publisher for the last decade.

It's not even worth engaging because it's such an un-serious claim.

[rusty_shackleford]

Lol 3 contrarians in a row trying to pretend there weren't DEI mandates at every major publisher for the last decade.

It's not even worth engaging because it's such an un-serious claim.

DEI mandates were at the hiring level

[Stack of Turtles]

Lol 3 contrarians in a row trying to pretend there weren't DEI mandates at every major publisher for the last decade.

It's not even worth engaging because it's such an un-serious claim.

I'm truly sorry you live in this insane world where you actually think video game devs would be on your side.

[Bertram_Tung]

Lol 3 contrarians in a row trying to pretend there weren't DEI mandates at every major publisher for the last decade.

It's not even worth engaging because it's such an un-serious claim.

I'm truly sorry you live in this insane world where you actually think video game devs would be on your side.

Strawman, literally never said that. When are you going to stop purposefully misconstruing what I said?

Obviously all gay devs NOW are gay - I never said otherwise.

[Oyster Sauce]

Lol 3 contrarians in a row trying to pretend there weren't DEI mandates at every major publisher for the last decade.

It's not even worth engaging because it's such an un-serious claim.

Even if this were true the developers chose to work under the publisher

[Bertram_Tung]

Lol 3 contrarians in a row trying to pretend there weren't DEI mandates at every major publisher for the last decade.

It's not even worth engaging because it's such an un-serious claim.

DEI mandates were at the hiring level

Did all devs who worked in the industry prior to those mandates just quit overnight in your fantasy?

[Stack of Turtles]

Lol 3 contrarians in a row trying to pretend there weren't DEI mandates at every major publisher for the last decade.

It's not even worth engaging because it's such an un-serious claim.

DEI mandates were at the hiring level

Did all devs who worked in the industry prior to those mandates just quit overnight in your fantasy?

They were ALREADY WOKE
That's why the old games they made were woke
Therefore, nothing changed

[Bertram_Tung]

Lol 3 contrarians in a row trying to pretend there weren't DEI mandates at every major publisher for the last decade.

It's not even worth engaging because it's such an un-serious claim.

Even if this were true the developers chose to work under the publisher

Yeah, sure, none of them worked there prior to all that ****. In your mind, the mandates were put into place and everyone was just magically on board.

That's ******** on its face and suggests a lack of experience in the corporate world during the time period in question.

[Bertram_Tung]

DEI mandates were at the hiring level

Did all devs who worked in the industry prior to those mandates just quit overnight in your fantasy?

They were ALREADY WOKE
That's why the old games they made were woke
Therefore, nothing changed

False premise. Next.

[rusty_shackleford]

the mandates were put into place

To hire only foids & non-whites, yes.
Which shaped how games were made, making them significantly more overtly gay race communist

[Bertram_Tung]

the mandates were put into place

To hire only foids & non-whites, yes.
Which shaped how games were made, making them significantly more overtly gay race communist

Yes. And what about the employees who worked there prior to that?

Going to keep avoiding that part?

[maidenhaver]

His dear old grandpa sure got into lots of wacky adventures!

"Business" if this vavra's such a swindling shitstain fraud and backstabbing grifter ******, imagine what his grandad was up to.

[rusty_shackleford]

the mandates were put into place

To hire only foids & non-whites, yes.
Which shaped how games were made, making them significantly more overtly gay race communist

Yes. And what about the employees who worked there prior to that?

Going to keep avoiding that part?

1990s-era "color blind" liberals, who were a product of the same system, a stepping stone

[Bertram_Tung]

To hire only foids & non-whites, yes.
Which shaped how games were made, making them significantly more overtly gay race communist

Yes. And what about the employees who worked there prior to that?

Going to keep avoiding that part?

1990s-era "color blind" liberals, who were a product of the same system, a stepping stone

1990s era color blind liberals are considered racist nazis to progressives, so your reasoning doesn't hold up under minimal scrutiny.

[Bertram_Tung]

five minutes of research:


https://medium.com/@IvIeMph/the-dei-dil ... a553d045ec

And of course everyone is familiar with Sweet Baby Inc and other firms like them. Specifically brought in to dictate changes to the games whether devs liked it or not.

The contrarianism is a tiresome bit.

[rusty_shackleford]

five minutes of research:


https://medium.com/@IvIeMph/the-dei-dil ... a553d045ec

And of course everyone is familiar with Sweet Baby Inc and other firms like them. Specifically brought in to dictate changes to the games whether devs liked it or not.

The contrarianism is a tiresome bit.

an anonymous source told me his anonymous source is fake

[Bertram_Tung]

five minutes of research:


https://medium.com/@IvIeMph/the-dei-dil ... a553d045ec

And of course everyone is familiar with Sweet Baby Inc and other firms like them. Specifically brought in to dictate changes to the games whether devs liked it or not.

The contrarianism is a tiresome bit.

an anonymous source told me his anonymous source is fake

Why does Sweet Baby Inc exist, ******? Why would they ever be needed if every dev was already fully on board with making their games as woke as possible?

[A Chinese opium den]

Yes. And what about the employees who worked there prior to that?

Going to keep avoiding that part?

1990s-era "color blind" liberals, who were a product of the same system, a stepping stone

1990s era color blind liberals are considered racist nazis to progressives, so your reasoning doesn't hold up under minimal scrutiny.

The past is always inherently evil and wrong to a libtard, they have a woman's reasoning and therefore appealing to what they believe is a waste of time. There is no logical consistency in the moment to moment for them, they say and do whatever they think is the most efficient path to get them what they want at any given moment(videogames ruined). I agree that a lot of pushovers probably did fold to their boss saying "put more ******* in the game" but that also makes them gay and at fault. There is a reason martyrs or winners are celebrated, not guys who give up and lose instantly to the slightest attack.

[Bertram_Tung]

hmm i wonder why these devs wanted to remain anonymous? Maybe because they know they wouldn't be hired if they weren't? almost as if they were being coerced in their industry to add more woke ****. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[A Chinese opium den]

I understand the sentiment but if you take that hard-line approach to everything then almost every RPG or JRPG is woke. FF7? Cloud dressed as a woman so woke. Kotor? Woke because Bastila is a girlboss and there's a gay romance. The list goes on and on. I just don't think we should throw the baby out with the bathwater here. I'd rather push back and see a series redeemed then just abandon it for the **** to co-opt.

Yeah but imagine if every time devs made a really good game they didn't add sections where you have to pretend to be a woman to progress the main story. The prospective audience for any new promising games with gay **** in it could embargo the game until the devs are forced to capitulate and patch out the gay stuff, its never been more achievable now that games can be changed in real time over opinionated players pressuring and harassing devs. We would be fools to not use the benefits of modern times, and harassing libtards who put annoying **** in videogames to spite you is a Divine mission.

I agree completely with you. We should pressure devs to patch out subversive messaging and yeah FF7 would be a better game if we weren't forced to pretend to be a woman in that one section. I just used it as an example to argue that just because it has one bad moment in it like that doesn't mean the whole product is bad or that the IP isn't worth fighting for.

In my original comment to Oyster Sauce I was just speaking about gaming in general and trying to articulate that we shouldn't cede ground to leftists just because past games may have the occasional liberal idea floated. If we take the stance that we only fight for based games and everything else should be turned over to the left then we'll never win the culture war. That's all I'm saying.

I must have speed read your post to some degree and not quite understood you, my apologies .

[rusty_shackleford]

five minutes of research:


https://medium.com/@IvIeMph/the-dei-dil ... a553d045ec

And of course everyone is familiar with Sweet Baby Inc and other firms like them. Specifically brought in to dictate changes to the games whether devs liked it or not.

The contrarianism is a tiresome bit.

an anonymous source told me his anonymous source is fake

Why does Sweet Baby Inc exist, ******? Why would they ever be needed if every dev was already fully on board with making their games as woke as possible?

kickbacks to friends of developers, it was full of ex-ubisoft devs

[maidenhaver]

There is not a single dev in the entire world who was forced against his will to include woke things by corporate overlords. It's an urban legend.

Reason 17474 you need to be hit in the head over and over with a bat. Devs will make the games their superiors demand, it has nothing at all to do with your charicture of force, and nothing to do with their personal beliefs. They would make mandatory gay vomit ****** orgies under crucified white men in all their games, if they could get away with it. Woke is only as tame as it is, because there is a coordinated agenda to roll this **** out piecemeal. Now, **** off poser ****** gatekeeper.

[Bertram_Tung]