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NPC Crime logic - games that allow you to get framed and frame other NPCs?

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NPC Crime logic - games that allow you to get framed and frame other NPCs?

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It often seems that you are the only active agent in this world running around into houses and stealing stuff. You never get accused of having committed a crime that you did not commit or mistaken for another NPC criminal outside of some part of the main story or a one off scripted quest. Instead, you click on a red highlighted dinner plate, and the only person who can ever be accosted for that theft is you, and there is no way to try to divert heat or doubt onto some other NPC. The crime system only ever affects you and not other NPCs in the world (outside of one off quests, ie planting pickpocketing a stolen ring into Brand-Shei in the Thieves Guild intro quest in Skyrim).

I heard that KCD2 has a system where if you were the only character spotted near a house before a crime happened in it, the guards will suspect you of having committed it. But what if that theft or the person dying inside did not actually happen because of you? Would you still get accosted by the guards and accused of theft or murder? Could you get convicted and suffer for it? Would you be able to later find the real culprit, bring him to the lawmen, and then get a public vindication or reparations?
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Semi-related: Oblivion NPCs will commit crime if the specific NPC's inclined to do so and has a reason to do it. e.g., NPCs that are inclined to commit crime and/or get hungry enough will steal food if they have no other way to get food.
Of course, they never implemented the jail part for NPCs so guards just kill them when caught.
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I'm sure I played a game where this is a mechanic.
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Why don't you go commit crimes in real life instead you pussy
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jcd wrote: January 16th, 2026, 02:03
Why don't you go commit crimes in real life instead you pussy
I commit thought crimes everyday.
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Val the Moofia Boss wrote: January 16th, 2026, 00:27
It often seems that you are the only active agent in this world running around into houses and stealing stuff.
That's because you functionally are, outside of some cosmetic backdrop. Otherwise, you'd be playing a game where every character is Tweed. Absolutely everything not nailed down would be GONE within 5 minutes.