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Cipher wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 02:32
weaselus wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 02:12
@Cipher @Oyster Sauce
The problem is this DEI-nerfed creature is not believable.

They did not need to use 4/10 Pakistani mystery meat for the Jesse design.

Weird clothes look ugly on ugly women. This is not news.

The original sprite/chibi model looks like a white woman with blue eyes, so use the semblance of somebody like Cameron Diaz or Denise Richards. Jesse is on the level of famous lead actresses.
But that's why I specifically asked you to clarify what you meant about the bandana comment, which implied that the bandana wasn't there and that "giving" her the bandana was the worse offense, even over her face. It is fine if you didn't know that the original had it, but please don't try to now back pedal and act that the comment was entirely related to everything else besides the bandana.

"Weird clothes look ugly on ugly women" but you didn't say that. You said that the problem is that they "gave" her the bandana.
I don't know why you are nitpicking in such detail. The entire argument is "FF7RI women are too ugly".

I told you I am casual fan; I do not care if the hairband existed previously.

My view is that people hate on FF7RI because of the outsized effect of these designs, and if the designs were as stellar as the original ones, the game would have sold double.
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weaselus wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 02:52

I told you I am casual fan; I do not care if the hairband existed previously.

My view is that people hate on FF7RI because of the outsized effect of these designs, and if the designs were as stellar as the original ones, the game would have sold double.
...but the bandana was part of the original design.
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Cipher wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 02:59
weaselus wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 02:52

I told you I am casual fan; I do not care if the hairband existed previously.

My view is that people hate on FF7RI because of the outsized effect of these designs, and if the designs were as stellar as the original ones, the game would have sold double.
...but the bandana was part of the original design.
...and?
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weaselus wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 03:02
Cipher wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 02:59
weaselus wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 02:52

I told you I am casual fan; I do not care if the hairband existed previously.

My view is that people hate on FF7RI because of the outsized effect of these designs, and if the designs were as stellar as the original ones, the game would have sold double.
...but the bandana was part of the original design.
...and?
You claimed the new Jessie was done so dirty because she was "given a bandana", clarified that indeed, the problem is the bandana and then claim that if the game had "kept the stellar design as the original ones" it would have sold double.

...all the while, the bandana that you hated so much, was part of that same "stellar" original design.
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Cipher wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 03:04
weaselus wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 03:02
Cipher wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 02:59


...but the bandana was part of the original design.
...and?
You claimed the new Jessie was done so dirty because she was "given a bandana", clarified that indeed, the problem is the bandana and then claim that if the game had "kept the stellar design as the original ones" it would have sold double.

...all the while, the bandana that you hated so much, was part of that same "stellar" original design.
Nope. That's not it at all. Have you been drinking? Your writing is slurred.

I said Jessie is ugly. The hairband is just the cherry on top.
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weaselus wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 03:11
Cipher wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 03:04
You claimed the new Jessie was done so dirty because she was "given a bandana", clarified that indeed, the problem is the bandana and then claim that if the game had "kept the stellar design as the original ones" it would have sold double.

...all the while, the bandana that you hated so much, was part of that same "stellar" original design.
Nope. That's not it at all. Have you been drinking? Your writing is slurred.

I said Jessie is ugly. The hairband is just the cherry on top.
No, this is exactly what you said:
weaselus wrote: ↑ January 8th, 2026, 06:07

Jessie's

model is also deplorable. Beyond having a nerfed design, she was given a bandana.
Jessie.png
"Beyond having a nerfed design, she was given a bandana" meaning that was the worst thing. I asked you to clarify your comment and you doubled down:
weaselus wrote: ↑ January 13th, 2026, 08:53
Cipher wrote: ↑ January 13th, 2026, 06:44
weaselus wrote: ↑ January 8th, 2026, 06:07

Jessie's

model is also deplorable. Beyond having a nerfed design, she was given a bandana.
What do you mean by this?
The hair band covering her forehead. It looks like a bandana for women :headbang:

Why is this relevant? Because twice I pointed this contradiction to you and you claim that I am the one acting crazy. Since the bandana was part of the original design, and you said that the original design was "stellar " and claimed that if they only had stuck to that they would have doubled their sales, but then you made it out to be the worst part of Jessie's design in the remake, that goes against your entire point about the original design and the doubling of the sales.

This is you:
"Bandana is the worst part of the new design for Jessie!"

but then: "Original design bestest, sales would go x2!"

and finally: "weird clothing looks ugly on ugly women".

So, now it turns out that the bandana, which was part of the STELLAR ORIGINAL DESIGN that would have doubled the sales is somehow "weird clothing"?
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Cipher wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 03:33
weaselus wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 03:11
Cipher wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 03:04


You claimed the new Jessie was done so dirty because she was "given a bandana", clarified that indeed, the problem is the bandana and then claim that if the game had "kept the stellar design as the original ones" it would have sold double.

...all the while, the bandana that you hated so much, was part of that same "stellar" original design.
Nope. That's not it at all. Have you been drinking? Your writing is slurred.

I said Jessie is ugly. The hairband is just the cherry on top.
No, this is exactly what you said:
weaselus wrote: ↑ January 8th, 2026, 06:07

Jessie's

model is also deplorable. Beyond having a nerfed design, she was given a bandana.
Jessie.png
"Beyond having a nerfed design, she was given a bandana" meaning that was the worst thing. I asked you to clarify your comment and you doubled down:
weaselus wrote: ↑ January 13th, 2026, 08:53
Cipher wrote: ↑ January 13th, 2026, 06:44


What do you mean by this?
The hair band covering her forehead. It looks like a bandana for women :headbang:

Why is this relevant? Because twice I pointed this contradiction to you and you claim that I am the one acting crazy. Since the bandana was part of the original design, and you said that the original design was "stellar " and claimed that if they only had stuck to that they would have doubled their sales, but then you made it out to be the worst part of Jessie's design in the remake, that goes against your entire point about the original design and the doubling of the sales.

This is you:
"Bandana is the worst part of the new design for Jessie!"

but then: "Original design bestest, sales would go x2!"

and finally: "weird clothing looks ugly on ugly women".

So, now it turns out that the bandana, which was part of the STELLAR ORIGINAL DESIGN that would have doubled the sales is somehow "weird clothing"?
Dude you are nitpicking too much. I don't know why you are going after me but I must have ruffled your feathers with some of my other posts. I can kinda see it from the dumb hill you want to die on.

Jessie has one minute of screen time in the original game; she is not a STELLAR ORIGINAL DESIGN.
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weaselus wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 03:51
Cipher wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 03:33
weaselus wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 03:11


Nope. That's not it at all. Have you been drinking? Your writing is slurred.

I said Jessie is ugly. The hairband is just the cherry on top.
No, this is exactly what you said:
weaselus wrote: ↑ January 8th, 2026, 06:07

Jessie's

model is also deplorable. Beyond having a nerfed design, she was given a bandana.
Jessie.png
"Beyond having a nerfed design, she was given a bandana" meaning that was the worst thing. I asked you to clarify your comment and you doubled down:
weaselus wrote: ↑ January 13th, 2026, 08:53


The hair band covering her forehead. It looks like a bandana for women :headbang:

Why is this relevant? Because twice I pointed this contradiction to you and you claim that I am the one acting crazy. Since the bandana was part of the original design, and you said that the original design was "stellar " and claimed that if they only had stuck to that they would have doubled their sales, but then you made it out to be the worst part of Jessie's design in the remake, that goes against your entire point about the original design and the doubling of the sales.

This is you:
"Bandana is the worst part of the new design for Jessie!"

but then: "Original design bestest, sales would go x2!"

and finally: "weird clothing looks ugly on ugly women".

So, now it turns out that the bandana, which was part of the STELLAR ORIGINAL DESIGN that would have doubled the sales is somehow "weird clothing"?
Dude you are nitpicking too much. I don't know why you are going after me but I must have ruffled your feathers with some of my other posts. I can kinda see it from the dumb hill you want to die on.

Jessie has one minute of screen time in the original game; she is not a STELLAR ORIGINAL DESIGN.
I did this to ascertain Oyster's claim here:
Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 02:22
weaselus wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 02:12
@Cipher @Oyster Sauce
The problem is this DEI-nerfed creature is not believable.

They did not need to use 4/10 Pakistani mystery meat for the Jesse design.

Weird clothes look ugly on ugly women. This is not news.

The original sprite/chibi model looks like a white woman with blue eyes, so use the semblance of somebody like Cameron Diaz or Denise Richards. Jesse is on the level of famous lead actresses.
you're delusional

Which turned out to be 100% correct.
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Cipher wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 03:59
weaselus wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 03:51
Cipher wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 03:33


No, this is exactly what you said:



"Beyond having a nerfed design, she was given a bandana" meaning that was the worst thing. I asked you to clarify your comment and you doubled down:




Why is this relevant? Because twice I pointed this contradiction to you and you claim that I am the one acting crazy. Since the bandana was part of the original design, and you said that the original design was "stellar " and claimed that if they only had stuck to that they would have doubled their sales, but then you made it out to be the worst part of Jessie's design in the remake, that goes against your entire point about the original design and the doubling of the sales.

This is you:
"Bandana is the worst part of the new design for Jessie!"

but then: "Original design bestest, sales would go x2!"

and finally: "weird clothing looks ugly on ugly women".

So, now it turns out that the bandana, which was part of the STELLAR ORIGINAL DESIGN that would have doubled the sales is somehow "weird clothing"?
Dude you are nitpicking too much. I don't know why you are going after me but I must have ruffled your feathers with some of my other posts. I can kinda see it from the dumb hill you want to die on.

Jessie has one minute of screen time in the original game; she is not a STELLAR ORIGINAL DESIGN.
I did this to ascertain Oyster's claim here:
Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 02:22
weaselus wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 02:12
@Cipher @Oyster Sauce
The problem is this DEI-nerfed creature is not believable.

They did not need to use 4/10 Pakistani mystery meat for the Jesse design.

Weird clothes look ugly on ugly women. This is not news.

The original sprite/chibi model looks like a white woman with blue eyes, so use the semblance of somebody like Cameron Diaz or Denise Richards. Jesse is on the level of famous lead actresses.
you're delusional

Which turned out to be 100% correct.
This is beyond petty. Sayonara little girl.
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one of you is mentally ******** but I won't say who
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Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 04:26
one of you is mentally ******** but I won't say who
Woman pronouncing other people ******** moment.
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weaselus wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 04:14
Cipher wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 03:59
weaselus wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 03:51


Dude you are nitpicking too much. I don't know why you are going after me but I must have ruffled your feathers with some of my other posts. I can kinda see it from the dumb hill you want to die on.

Jessie has one minute of screen time in the original game; she is not a STELLAR ORIGINAL DESIGN.
I did this to ascertain Oyster's claim here:

Which turned out to be 100% correct.
This is beyond petty. Sayonara little girl.
You are the one name calling instead of admitting you were wrong. Go back to reddit.
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weaselus wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 03:51
Cipher wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 03:33
weaselus wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 03:11


Nope. That's not it at all. Have you been drinking? Your writing is slurred.

I said Jessie is ugly. The hairband is just the cherry on top.
No, this is exactly what you said:
weaselus wrote: ↑ January 8th, 2026, 06:07

Jessie's

model is also deplorable. Beyond having a nerfed design, she was given a bandana.
Jessie.png
"Beyond having a nerfed design, she was given a bandana" meaning that was the worst thing. I asked you to clarify your comment and you doubled down:
weaselus wrote: ↑ January 13th, 2026, 08:53


The hair band covering her forehead. It looks like a bandana for women :headbang:

Why is this relevant? Because twice I pointed this contradiction to you and you claim that I am the one acting crazy. Since the bandana was part of the original design, and you said that the original design was "stellar " and claimed that if they only had stuck to that they would have doubled their sales, but then you made it out to be the worst part of Jessie's design in the remake, that goes against your entire point about the original design and the doubling of the sales.

This is you:
"Bandana is the worst part of the new design for Jessie!"

but then: "Original design bestest, sales would go x2!"

and finally: "weird clothing looks ugly on ugly women".

So, now it turns out that the bandana, which was part of the STELLAR ORIGINAL DESIGN that would have doubled the sales is somehow "weird clothing"?
Dude you are nitpicking too much. I don't know why you are going after me but I must have ruffled your feathers with some of my other posts. I can kinda see it from the dumb hill you want to die on.

Jessie has one minute of screen time in the original game; she is not a STELLAR ORIGINAL DESIGN.
You talk like you were a fat kid.
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You talk like a peasant, which you and your buddies are. That's not a good thing, not even in the Midwest. The Midwest lacks in nobility of spirit, and so do you.
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Calling the FF7 ladies "ugly" is nuts.

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I do agree on Tifa's and Yuffie's canon outfits being bad, though. Tifa looks better in the Advent Children black outfit, and Yuffie in either her kimono or the Moogle superhero cape.
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Val the Moofia Boss wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 05:40
Calling the FF7 ladies "ugly" is nuts.

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I do agree on Tifa's and Yuffie's canon outfits being bad, though. Tifa looks better in the Advent Children black outfit, and Yuffie in either her kimono or the Moogle superhero cape.
I agree they are attractive models.
They are ugly enough to cost the company sales, and they are the reason people rejected the remake trilogy. I wouldn't have played it if it weren't for mods, and I am not alone - refer above to the scandal in Japan at Aerith's reveal.

Cheesecake is an integral part of game marketing in Japan. Think Cammy, Taki, Sophitia, Sofia, Ada, Lulu, etc. But in FF7R we got shriveled cheesecake. The models have not been attractiveness-maxxed. We have never seen this before in any game. Compare, e.g. Ashley from Resident Evil 4. Did the remake nerf her? No.

Remember this Tifa by a deviantart modeler before FF7R came out?
Tifa_Pre_Release_FanVision.jpg
This would have been lore accurate and attractive.

The point here is that DEI strangulated FF7RI to some extent - did not kill it but definitely put a clamp on sales.
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@Oyster Sauce
If you had told me why you thought I was delusional, I would know where in my thirty pages of posts I had provoked a reaction.

The way you just dropped it with zero explanation was rude and confusing. This is not what online forums are for.
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weaselus wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 06:54
@Oyster Sauce
If you had told me why you thought I was delusional, I would know where in my thirty pages of posts I had provoked a reaction.

The way you just dropped it with zero explanation was rude and confusing. This is not what online forums are for.
you're right please accept my humblest apologies
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weaselus wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 06:43
the reason people rejected the remake trilogy
People soured on the "remake" primarily because 1. action combat instead of true command based with dramatic camera framing, and 2. it was not a true remake as people were expecting it would be. It only covered Midgar which isn't even all of disc 1 when people were expecting the whole game, and then word got out about the Nomura-isms with the Kingdom Hearts time ghosts, nobody dying in the plate drop, time traveling Sephiroth (and people in general being fed up with how Nomura has been trying to "redeem" him), etc. The trail of blood scene being removed and the white washing of Avalanche also turned off fans. The game was also launched as a PS4 exclusive and then arrived on PC as an Epic Games Store exclusive, so by the time it finally arrived on Steam a lot of the interest had diminished.

The second game did not come out in a timely manner either, releasing FIVE whole years after the first game! And once again it launched as a console exclusive, this time on the PS5 which due to the Pandemic and scalpers many people did not have, and the JRPG playerbase was buying Switches instead of Playstation as Sony abandoned Japan. Glacial JRPG devs like Nihon Falcon and Square that were still sticking with Playstation exclusives at this point paid for it dearly (see the Trails and Ys series sales collapse as the JRPG playerbase fled Playstation to Switch). Rebirth also caused consternation in that Cid would not be playable, there would be no overworld, and no controlling the airship. Rebirth also did nothing to address how fundamentally less engaging FF7 is after Midgar. When people think about FF7, they think of the dieselpunk dystopia on disc 1, and how you are constantly swept from setpiece to setpiece with Mako reactors blowing up, plate drops, the trail of blood scene, etc. After that you are meandering around aimlessly a much less appealing setting. People were already tuning out once they saw the generic Ubisoft towers in the prerelease articles.
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Cipher wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 05:06
weaselus wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 04:14
Cipher wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 03:59


I did this to ascertain Oyster's claim here:




Which turned out to be 100% correct.
This is beyond petty. Sayonara little girl.
You are the one name calling instead of admitting you were wrong. Go back to reddit.
Nice gaslighting. You came in with the hostile and irrelevant counterargument.

Also, stop interacting with me. You, Tangerine, the cyberpunk guy, the turtle guy.... They are more your speed. Seriously, do not respond. If you do, I will ignore it.
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Val the Moofia Boss wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 07:00
weaselus wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 06:43
the reason people rejected the remake trilogy
People soured on the "remake" primarily because 1. action combat instead of true command based with dramatic camera framing, and 2. it was not a true remake as people were expecting it would be. It only covered Midgar which isn't even all of disc 1 when people were expecting the whole game, and then word got out about the Nomura-isms with the Kingdom Hearts time ghosts, nobody dying in the plate drop, time traveling Sephiroth (and people in general being fed up with how Nomura has been trying to "redeem" him), etc. The trail of blood scene being removed and the white washing of Avalanche also turned off fans. The game was also launched as a PS4 exclusive and then arrived on PC as an Epic Games Store exclusive, so by the time it finally arrived on Steam a lot of the interest had diminished.

The second game did not come out in a timely manner either, releasing FIVE whole years after the first game! And once again it launched as a console exclusive, this time on the PS5 which due to the Pandemic and scalpers many people did not have, and the JRPG playerbase was buying Switches instead of Playstation as Sony abandoned Japan. Glacial JRPG devs like Nihon Falcon and Square that were still sticking with Playstation exclusives at this point paid for it dearly (see the Trails and Ys series sales collapse as the JRPG playerbase fled Playstation to Switch). Rebirth also caused consternation in that Cid would not be playable, there would be no overworld, and no controlling the airship. Rebirth also did nothing to address how fundamentally less engaging FF7 is after Midgar. When people think about FF7, they think of the dieselpunk dystopia on disc 1, and how you are constantly swept from setpiece to setpiece with Mako reactors blowing up, plate drops, the trail of blood scene, etc. After that you are meandering around aimlessly a much less appealing setting. People were already tuning out once they saw the generic Ubisoft towers in the prerelease articles.
When we discussed several months ago, I found all your points reasonable.

But also, you expect too much from current-year developers: they simply do not have the vision NOR the skillset to make a faithful remake a reality.

In the nineties, Square had a whole (small) army of geniuses, and they were making games for adults (in the nineties), who were a far cry from adults in current year. This is about a 28-year difference. That is a whole cycle of "Leave no child behind".

The themes of FF7 and FF8 - "can we insert a Hollywood-style psychological thriller in a turn-based RPG" - have been unthinkable since then.

People do not care for that level of refinement in their entertainment, but more importantly, the dev teams would not be able to achieve it.

Look at much simpler game series like Dead Island/sequels/Beast Within or State of Decay, which are zombie sandboxes. The newer devs cannot accomplish what the retired devs did. They even use AI to help with artistic vision, music vision, coding. Do you want to consume somebody's braindead efforts if they needed AI inspiration? I sure don't.

The game YOU wanted FF7R to be requires at least another thirty years to materialize, if the pendulum swings back to tradition-based civilization.

Hope that's a bad prediction.
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weaselus wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 05:39
You talk like a peasant, which you and your buddies are. That's not a good thing, not even in the Midwest. The Midwest lacks in nobility of spirit, and so do you.
LARPing as a noble doesn't make you one.
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Wtff they removed the waking up with the trail of blood section???
Why? What did they replace it with?

Why can't they just do a ******* remaster and not a gay remake? The game was fine as it was, people just wanted new graphics.
It ain't FF7 anymore.
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weaselus wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 05:39
The Midwest lacks in nobility of spirit
What the **** did you just say?
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methoxetamine wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 20:19
weaselus wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 05:39
The Midwest lacks in nobility of spirit
What the **** did you just say?
you heard him
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Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 20:23
methoxetamine wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 20:19
weaselus wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 05:39
The Midwest lacks in nobility of spirit
What the **** did you just say?
you heard him
Better watch out or he'll isekai you to the midwest
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BobT wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 19:06
Wtff they removed the waking up with the trail of blood section???
Why? What did they replace it with?
Replaced with purple Jenova goo. Apparently they had to do this to get a T rating in certain territories. Guess they didn't want to bite the bullet and just accept it would be M, not that would have lost many sales given sales for Diablo, Shin Megami Tensei, God of War, Last of Us, GTA, Witcher 3, Yakuza, Cyberpunk, Red Dead Redemption 2, Hellblade, Baldur's Gate 3, etc.

At the top of Shinra tower, Sephiroth stabs President Shinra and Barret through the heart and kills them (Barret gets better due to Kindom Hearts time ghosts), but there is no blood.

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BobT wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 19:06
Wtff they removed the waking up with the trail of blood section???
Why? What did they replace it with?

Why can't they just do a ******* remaster and not a gay remake? The game was fine as it was, people just wanted new graphics.
It ain't FF7 anymore.
From what they said happened is that over the years, Kitase and Nomura had flirted withe the idea of a remake. Then one day they went into a room and were fantasizing about what they would do, but instead of it just being 15 minutes this went on for a couple hours, and then they walked out determined to actually do it for real and they were able to get authorization right there. Their rationale for having a different plot is that they wanted to surprise people with the remake in the same way people were surprised discovering the original game's plot way back when, rather than just follow a well known storyline.

I do think that there should have been changes. FF7 is the dieselpunk dystopia on disc 1. There is a reason why the fandom and all of the spinoff materials focus so heavily on Midgar. The rest of the game is nowhere near as engaging. A remake would have been an opportunity to make the rest of the game just as compelling as Midgar. But they made the wrong choices.
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Final Fantasy 7, both OG and Remake suck
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Val the Moofia Boss wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 20:32
BobT wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 19:06
Wtff they removed the waking up with the trail of blood section???
Why? What did they replace it with?
Replaced with purple Jenova goo. Apparently they had to do this to get a T rating in certain territories. Guess they didn't want to bite the bullet and just accept it would be M, not that would have lost many sales given sales for Diablo, Shin Megami Tensei, God of War, Last of Us, GTA, Witcher 3, Yakuza, Cyberpunk, Red Dead Redemption 2, Hellblade, Baldur's Gate 3, etc.

At the top of Shinra tower, Sephiroth stabs President Shinra and Barret through the heart and kills them (Barret gets better due to Kindom Hearts time ghosts), but there is no blood.

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BobT wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 19:06
Wtff they removed the waking up with the trail of blood section???
Why? What did they replace it with?

Why can't they just do a ******* remaster and not a gay remake? The game was fine as it was, people just wanted new graphics.
It ain't FF7 anymore.
From what they said happened is that over the years, Kitase and Nomura had flirted withe the idea of a remake. Then one day they went into a room and were fantasizing about what they would do, but instead of it just being 15 minutes this went on for a couple hours, and then they walked out determined to actually do it for real and they were able to get authorization right there. Their rationale for having a different plot is that they wanted to surprise people with the remake in the same way people were surprised discovering the original game's plot way back when, rather than just follow a well known storyline.

I do think that there should have been changes. FF7 is the dieselpunk dystopia on disc 1. There is a reason why the fandom and all of the spinoff materials focus so heavily on Midgar. The rest of the game is nowhere near as engaging. A remake would have been an opportunity to make the rest of the game just as compelling as Midgar. But they made the wrong choices.
ffffssss. Just make a fooking different game, if they want to change stuff and "surprise" people. Argh. "creatives" dissappearing up their own *** these days. Pisses me off.

In a remaster I'd accept:
- Better graphics.
- Better sound (quality only, the theme should be maintained).
- Improved or added cutscenes.
- Fixed bugs.
- Better control schemes.
- Fixed gameplay niggles.
- Some balancing tweaks.

Changing the story, gameplay sections, adding time ghosts and all this ******* BS is ridiculous, it's just not the game anymore.
The game should stand as it was, warts and all (besides the above).
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BobT wrote: ↑ January 14th, 2026, 19:06
Why can't they just do a ******* remaster and not a gay remake? The game was fine as it was, people just wanted new graphics.
It ain't FF7 anymore.
It was never a remake in anything but name/advertising, it was always a sequel.
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