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Stack of Turtles wrote: January 6th, 2026, 19:41
The main issue is that you are conflating "they don't think distinguishing between genders is important" with "social engineering". This is understandable only if you have been living under a rock for the last thirty years or so. These people already grew up in a milieu where everyone ALREADY CALLS EVERYONE "they". That's just normal to them, they're not even overtly thinking about it. To them, gender is cosmetic, not a character choice by the player that needs to be specifically addressed; making extra lines about the player's "important" character creation choices feels like reactivity to them, which is good, but recording lines twice to say he or she — although do keep in mind that the different lines they make for character creation choices like Hogplace house generally don't double the number of lines outright — seems pointless to them because calling everyone "they" is 'already a universal solution everyone normally does' in their world.
It's social engineering by useful idiots. They have been conditioned first, and now they are spreading their ideologies to the masses through entertainment. It's been happening for decades in the form of feminism, but the LGBT stuff has only been this overt since the 2010s. The singular they is even more recent. I have never (consciously) heard a man being called "they" until just a few years ago.

I hate it, people don't talk like that where I'm from, but you're completely failing to understand that California dialect is its own thing that has existed for over a generation now. There's no need to socially engineer it; to them, it's already the default and anyone who complains must be just a Nazi being petty and pretending "everyone" doesn't already say it.
Not every video game is being made in California. And this gender madness is not only going on in video games or California...

By the way, you want "a game from 10-15 years ago where they did this"? 2007's Portal has a fixed protagonist and the only other character talks to you directly anyway, so it doesn't have third-person pronouns in the game... but the developer commentary, I called this out in another thread a bit ago, always refers to the player as "they", and in the 2011 sequel they even specifically made a commentary 'node' (that is, a thing you interact with to read the commentary) JUST to pat themselves on the back for this. Apparently — according to that node — some earlier game had used "he", probably in Half-Life or something (where the PC is actually male so it makes sense!) but they insist that even by that time they were already using "they" in 'normal' everyday conversation. And I believe that, based on my experience with *******.
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How's it feel that all this effort was wasted just so your stupid list could become a laughing stock?
And the manufactured struggle between perceived opressor and opressed continues...



Stop thinking in terms of money. It's about power and control. Money is just the tool that is being used to further the agenda. What is the agenda? Obviously the end goal is total control of the human population by the 1%.

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DreamMachine wrote: January 10th, 2026, 17:42
The singular they is even more recent. I have never (consciously) heard a man being called "they" until just a few years ago.
It's been used since at least the 90s. The justification was that it didn't exclude women by using only he and it was "cleaner" than constantly using he/she. It's really obnoxious when some zoomer doubles down on something being recent when you point out it's been used for decades.
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Tangerine wrote: January 10th, 2026, 18:05
The justification was that it didn't exclude women
LGBT, feminism, who gives a ****, it all points to THEM anyway :popcorn2:
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"He or she" is sluggish especially when you have to use it multiple times. Just make a new word.
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Oyster Sauce wrote: January 10th, 2026, 18:43
"He or she" is sluggish especially when you have to use it multiple times. Just make a new word.
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Why don't you guys just stop playing video games
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Oyster Sauce wrote: January 10th, 2026, 18:43
"He or she" is sluggish especially when you have to use it multiple times. Just make a new word.
No need when you can just say 'he'.
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WhiteShark wrote: January 10th, 2026, 19:53
Oyster Sauce wrote: January 10th, 2026, 18:43
"He or she" is sluggish especially when you have to use it multiple times. Just make a new word.
No need when you can just say 'he'.
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I would NEVER EVER call a ****** by his preferred pronouns but I INSIST upon referring to women as "he"
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@Oyster Sauce probably also gets upset when the word 'man' is used to refer to humanity both male and female.
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WhiteShark wrote: January 10th, 2026, 20:09
@Oyster Sauce probably also gets upset when the word 'man' is used to refer to humanity both male and female.
enjoy hearing "they" for the rest of your life because you couldn't be bothered to invent a word that makes sense
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Oyster Sauce wrote: January 10th, 2026, 20:06
I would NEVER EVER call a ****** by his preferred pronouns but I INSIST upon referring to women as "he"
If you already know that a woman is a woman, then just call her "she".

"He" is used when you are referring to a man or when you're unsure of the recipient's gender.
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UltraFan123 wrote: January 10th, 2026, 20:35
"He" is used when you are referring to a man or when you're unsure of the recipient's gender.
You call women men. I don't. I also don't call men women!
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issue seems easy to solve, just don't speak to women
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rusty_shackleford wrote: January 10th, 2026, 20:39
issue seems easy to solve, just don't speak to women
I don't call you "he" when I'm talking to you though
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Oyster Sauce wrote: January 10th, 2026, 20:58
rusty_shackleford wrote: January 10th, 2026, 20:39
issue seems easy to solve, just don't speak to women
I don't call you "he" when I'm talking to you though
what's wrong with "you"?
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Oyster Sauce wrote: January 10th, 2026, 20:38
UltraFan123 wrote: January 10th, 2026, 20:35
"He" is used when you are referring to a man or when you're unsure of the recipient's gender.
You call women men. I don't. I also don't call men women!
All women are men, but not all men are women. That's why "women" has "men" in it. Women are a subcategory of men.
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Stack of Turtles wrote: January 10th, 2026, 21:38
Oyster Sauce wrote: January 10th, 2026, 20:38
UltraFan123 wrote: January 10th, 2026, 20:35
"He" is used when you are referring to a man or when you're unsure of the recipient's gender.
You call women men. I don't. I also don't call men women!
All women are men, but not all men are women. That's why "women" has "men" in it. Women are a subcategory of men.
Biblically accurate.
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WhiteShark wrote: January 10th, 2026, 19:53
Oyster Sauce wrote: January 10th, 2026, 18:43
"He or she" is sluggish especially when you have to use it multiple times. Just make a new word.
No need when you can just say 'he'.
or they/them
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Tangerine wrote: January 10th, 2026, 18:05
DreamMachine wrote: January 10th, 2026, 17:42
The singular they is even more recent. I have never (consciously) heard a man being called "they" until just a few years ago.
It's been used since at least the 90s. The justification was that it didn't exclude women by using only he and it was "cleaner" than constantly using he/she. It's really obnoxious when some zoomer doubles down on something being recent when you point out it's been used for decades.
You misunderstand what I say. Singular they was pushed by feminists and has been used for decades to describe someone of unknown gender. Using "they" for someone of known gender (like a man) is more recent from my experience and from what I've heard others say too.
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DreamMachine wrote: January 12th, 2026, 18:33
Tangerine wrote: January 10th, 2026, 18:05
DreamMachine wrote: January 10th, 2026, 17:42
The singular they is even more recent. I have never (consciously) heard a man being called "they" until just a few years ago.
It's been used since at least the 90s. The justification was that it didn't exclude women by using only he and it was "cleaner" than constantly using he/she. It's really obnoxious when some zoomer doubles down on something being recent when you point out it's been used for decades.
You misunderstand what I say. Singular they was pushed by feminists and has been used for decades to describe someone of unknown gender. Using "they" for someone of known gender (like a man) is more recent from my experience and from what I've heard others say too.
Indefinite they pushed by feminists for decades as a replacement for he/she goes back to easily at least the 60s. You can find arguments about it in grammar books at least that far back. Singular they used by woke ******* for anyone is more recent, but it ALREADY has also been used for decades. Wokeness has been around in its own circles for longer than you've heard of it.
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Stack of Turtles wrote: January 12th, 2026, 19:26
Indefinite they pushed by feminists for decades as a replacement for he/she goes back to easily at least the 60s. You can find arguments about it in grammar books at least that far back. Singular they used by woke ******* for anyone is more recent, but it ALREADY has also been used for decades. Wokeness has been around in its own circles for longer than you've heard of it.
Those are the useful idiots, as Bezmenov described.

It might have been prevalent in certain circles, but it wasn't mainstream whatsoever and that is my point. I've been looking for it in older tv shows, movies and video games for many months to no avail. But now all of a sudden it's gaining traction, mostly because it's catering towards a tiny amount of people out there who can't figure out their own gender. Personally, I just think it's insulting to the rest of us and I hate it.
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DreamMachine wrote: January 12th, 2026, 20:40
Stack of Turtles wrote: January 12th, 2026, 19:26
Indefinite they pushed by feminists for decades as a replacement for he/she goes back to easily at least the 60s. You can find arguments about it in grammar books at least that far back. Singular they used by woke ******* for anyone is more recent, but it ALREADY has also been used for decades. Wokeness has been around in its own circles for longer than you've heard of it.
Those are the useful idiots, as Bezmenov described.

It might have been prevalent in certain circles, but it wasn't mainstream whatsoever and that is my point. I've been looking for it in older tv shows, movies and video games for many months to no avail. But now all of a sudden it's gaining traction, mostly because it's catering towards a tiny amount of people out there who can't figure out their own gender. Personally, I just think it's insulting to the rest of us and I hate it.
I think we have a different definition of "mainstream".
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nobody used singular they the way it's currently being used until a ~decade ago
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wonder how much of it is due to having chatjeept write everything
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