Mechwarrior 5: Clans

[Northwind]

So is anyone working on nig-b-gone mod?

[Cipher]

So is anyone working on nig-b-gone mod?

It's UE5. So, unless the devs give the public some modding tools like they did for MW5: Mercenaries, which was UE4, I don't think mods are going to come out anytime soon.

[GhostCow]

I played through the tutorial. Gameplay seems ok, but maybe a slight downgrade from MW5. Not big on this weird wheel thing that comes up when you hit the middle mouse button and not a fan of being able to take control of lancemates. The UI is absolutely awful though so I'm putting it down for now and hoping mods will fix it.

[Yankee Zulu]

This **** is on sale already.

[Yankee Zulu]

Consequences

https://www.gamedeveloper.com/business/ ... anha-games

Enad Global 7 shuts down Toadman, cuts staff at MechWarrior dev Piranha Games
Toadman began as a work-for-hire studio, and later became a direct subsidiary of its reformed parent company, Enad Global 7.

[gerey]

The Clans are gay and there to be exterminated, should have released a DLC for Mercs that fleshes out pilots more.

[GhostCow]

It's not been three months and I'm still too disappointed to go back to it. I may never get around to it. I was really excited for the game too. MW5 Mercs was pretty good and just needed to be iterated upon.

[GhostCow]

I didn't want to make a new thread for Mercenaries, but the clan DLC for MW5 Mercs comes out tomorrow

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

I didn't want to make a new thread for Mercenaries, but the clan DLC for MW5 Mercs comes out tomorrow

Play the game for couple hours didn’t like it and never touched it again.

[TheEmptyRoad]

Of all the clans they could've gone with as the poster-boys for a Clan-focused game, they went with the Smoke Kitties? Seriously? The pants-on-head ******** ******* clan who get their **** rocked by the Weebs?

[GhostCow]

I'm enjoying the hell out of the clan DLC for MW5: Mercenaries. It's much better than MW5: Clans. I hate that they didn't add the Kodiak though. That's basically my favorite mech.

[gerey]

Can someone explain to me what the Clan plan for the IS was?

They were just going to fight their way to Terra, squat on it, and then hope the Great House were just going to give up the claim they have spent the past 300 years fighting over? And then what?

Were they going to try and bring each one to heel? Even if they were achieving 10-to-1 kill ratios, they would still have been drowned in IS bodies and mechs - the Successor States are used to apocalyptic loses, they've been grinding each other to dust over the past three centuries. Doesn't matter that the mechs they're fielding are museum pieces, they're still perfectly capable of killing a shiny new omnimech, all it takes is a lucky shot.

In a way, Tukayyid saved the Clans from complete destruction.

[TheEmptyRoad]

Can someone explain to me what the Clan plan for the IS was?

They were just going to fight their way to Terra, squat on it, and then hope the Great House were just going to give up the claim they have spent the past 300 years fighting over? And then what?

Were they going to try and bring each one to heel? Even if they were achieving 10-to-1 kill ratios, they would still have been drowned in IS bodies and mechs - the Successor States are used to apocalyptic loses, they've been grinding each other to dust over the past three centuries. Doesn't matter that the mechs they're fielding are museum pieces, they're still perfectly capable of killing a shiny new omnimech, all it takes is a lucky shot.

In a way, Tukayyid saved the Clans from complete destruction.

Clan Wolf sits on Terra as of the 'current year' in Battletech. The name of the current Era is IlClan. Wolf and Jade Falcon destroyed what was left of the Republic of the Sphere while the Great Houses were otherwise distracted (save for Liao, they too were on the way to Terra, but couldn't get through the Wall). The Wolves and Jade Falcons did a good job of destroying each other on the Canadian Prairie and Wolf came out on top. They both brought the best and brightest from their Occupation Zones, leaving them mostly undefended, with both Marik and Steiner taking advantage of that. Sea Fox is also 'aquiring' every HPG transmitter they can get their hands on, essentially replacing Comstar if they ever figure out how to fix them after the Blackout.

Liao's advance on Terra was stopped but it cost Wolf quite a bit. They also weren't driven back, just stopped. The latest sourcebook ends with Alaric Ward (Khan of Clan Wolf) issuing the Liberty Declaration. Essentially calling on the Great Houses to step down and for their people to rise up. We'll see how that goes, Wolf and Ward have both come across like Mary Sues for years now. I seriously doubt this new 'Star League' under Wolf will be recognized by any except the Clanner-States, and even the Rasalhague Dominion was bitterly divided on the issue, and not along Trueborn/Spheroid lines either.

[gerey]

Clan Wolf sits on Terra as of the 'current year' in Battletech. The name of the current Era is IlClan.

Yeah, but it took them close to 100 years to get there, and they only managed because the IS get absolutely wrecked by the FedCom Civil War, Jihad and Dark Ages, all going off one after the other.

So it's less a Clan victory and more the Inner Sphere imploding, and the Clans being around to pick up the pieces. Mind you, I don't particularly like anything BattleTech past the Clan Invasion, and barely tolerate the FedCom Civil War.

My questions was primarily concerning their plans for Operation Revival. Most of the Clans seemingly went into the whole debacle completely ignorant about the realties on the field, how the IS fought, and just the sheer scale of the territory they were trying to claim. Resource-starved as the Clans were, and with the only real advantage being their technological edge, how exactly did they think they were going to win?

Or was it just them huffing space weed and thinking the Successor States and ComStar were going to respect their claim because Clan rules say they need to respect it?

[TheEmptyRoad]

Clan Wolf sits on Terra as of the 'current year' in Battletech. The name of the current Era is IlClan.

Yeah, but it took them close to 100 years to get there, and they only managed because the IS get absolutely wrecked by the FedCom Civil War, Jihad and Dark Ages, all going off one after the other.

So it's less a Clan victory and more the Inner Sphere imploding, and the Clans being around to pick up the pieces. Mind you, I don't particularly like anything BattleTech past the Clan Invasion, and barely tolerate the FedCom Civil War.

My questions was primarily concerning their plans for Operation Revival. Most of the Clans seemingly went into the whole debacle completely ignorant about the realties on the field, how the IS fought, and just the sheer scale of the territory they were trying to claim. Resource-starved as the Clans were, and with the only real advantage being their technological edge, how exactly did they think they were going to win?

Or was it just them huffing space weed and thinking the Successor States and ComStar were going to respect their claim because Clan rules say they need to respect it?

Oh, it was arrogance pure and simple. I think it was Star Adder that was the only Clan to go “hey, ALL of us should probably go in on this thing”. The common consensus amongst most of the other Clans was that any more than 4-5 was overkill.

I don’t know if they didn’t understand basic math or just ignored all the intel Wolf’s Dragoons sent back but hoo boy.

I think I read somewhere that the Capellan Confederation at its smallest still outnumbered the totality of the Clans at their peak by an order of magnitude.

Good way putting it too: ‘Picking up the pieces of what’s left’ after the Jihad and Dark Age. If Ward will turn down the Rasalhague Dominion from joining his Star League because the yes vote margin was narrow, he certainly won’t accept any Great House. I have no clue where the story goes from here.

[Magick]

I still have MW4. I remember bolting 4 PPCs, a medium regular laser and a couple of medium pulse laser onto a Novacat.

Sure it shut down every time I fired them, but I had all the time in the world to chill when the enemy was a molten pile of metal from the first shot.

[Rand]

Can someone explain to me what the Clan plan for the IS was?

They were just going to fight their way to Terra, squat on it, and then hope the Great House were just going to give up the claim they have spent the past 300 years fighting over? And then what?

Were they going to try and bring each one to heel? Even if they were achieving 10-to-1 kill ratios, they would still have been drowned in IS bodies and mechs - the Successor States are used to apocalyptic loses, they've been grinding each other to dust over the past three centuries. Doesn't matter that the mechs they're fielding are museum pieces, they're still perfectly capable of killing a shiny new omnimech, all it takes is a lucky shot.

In a way, Tukayyid saved the Clans from complete destruction.

Clan Wolf sits on Terra as of the 'current year' in Battletech. The name of the current Era is IlClan. Wolf and Jade Falcon destroyed what was left of the Republic of the Sphere while the Great Houses were otherwise distracted (save for Liao, they too were on the way to Terra, but couldn't get through the Wall). The Wolves and Jade Falcons did a good job of destroying each other on the Canadian Prairie and Wolf came out on top. They both brought the best and brightest from their Occupation Zones, leaving them mostly undefended, with both Marik and Steiner taking advantage of that. Sea Fox is also 'aquiring' every HPG transmitter they can get their hands on, essentially replacing Comstar if they ever figure out how to fix them after the Blackout.

Liao's advance on Terra was stopped but it cost Wolf quite a bit. They also weren't driven back, just stopped. The latest sourcebook ends with Alaric Ward (Khan of Clan Wolf) issuing the Liberty Declaration. Essentially calling on the Great Houses to step down and for their people to rise up. We'll see how that goes, Wolf and Ward have both come across like Mary Sues for years now. I seriously doubt this new 'Star League' under Wolf will be recognized by any except the Clanner-States, and even the Rasalhague Dominion was bitterly divided on the issue, and not along Trueborn/Spheroid lines either.

The problem is as initially described.
I do not believe the all the clans together could hold off even two houses at the same time.
If three to five of them decided, before fighting the same turf wars for the 100th time to instead destroy the existential threat first, AS THEY WOULD, the clans would face the same issue as the Mongols when they breached Europe.
Initial victories, then utter rout or annihilation as the entire region marched on them.
Comstar would pay every C-bill in their treasury to prevent the annihilation they faced. And they have a ****-ton of money to work with.
The Clans, by definition, were overextended when they reached the periphery. Crossing into House space would have them cut off from supplies and spare parts from their factories hundreds of light years away almost instantly.
It was absurd when I first read it in the late 80s, and it's more absurd today.

[Rand]

Or was it just them huffing space weed and thinking the Successor States and ComStar were going to respect their claim because Clan rules say they need to respect it?

That's the only logical conclusion.
Though the whole thing was badly designed and written.
Cloning? "Sibko" and other cringe slang? Duelling feudal commands in a "grand army" with a classic martial chain-of-command tradition?
WTF? This **** wouldn't happen. Militaries are NOTORIOUSLY hidebound, conservative, and resistant to change. Kerensky was the antithesis of what the Clans and the I.S. Houses stood for.

[Tangerine]

Or was it just them huffing space weed and thinking the Successor States and ComStar were going to respect their claim because Clan rules say they need to respect it?

That's the only logical conclusion.
Though the whole thing was badly designed and written.
Cloning? "Sibko" and other cringe slang? Duelling feudal commands in a "grand army" with a classic martial chain-of-command tradition?
WTF? This **** wouldn't happen. Militaries are NOTORIOUSLY hidebound, conservative, and resistant to change. Kerensky was the antithesis of what the Clans and the I.S. Houses stood for.

[gerey]

Though the whole thing was badly designed and written.

Cloning clearly fucks them up in the head somehow.

I do agree that no logical sequence of events would spawn Clan culture from the remains of the professional, war-weary military of the SLDF.

The most logical course of action for them would have been to flee as far away from the IS as they could get, never to come back.

[Rand]

Cloning clearly fucks them up in the head somehow.

LMAO, yep.

[GhostCow]

New DLC for MW5:Mercs is out today. I will be buying it just like I have every other DLC.