Game Pass hurts developers?

[DecadeRiptide]

People debate whether game pass is hurting developers.

Without any looking in to this, my first thoughts were "does Netflix hurt production studios?".

Game Pass is basically Netflix but for games. Plus, movies generally have a much higher budget than video games apart from some rare instances.

Is this just another case of developers feeling entitled and asking for more than their games are actually worth?

I can go to the back of the supermarket and pick up some blu-ray dvds for like a tenner each, some newer ones costing around £24.

Developers though are asking for £60-£120 these days for a game that has half the budget of some of the greatest pieces of cinema.

So do you think Game Pass hurts developers, and why?

[rusty_shackleford]

Without any looking in to this, my first thoughts were "does Netflix hurt production studios?".

Netflix sorta killed TV shows, didn't it?
Massive majority of popular shows on streaming are old, excepting a handful of new series. Netflix was pumping out dozens of new series per year and nearly all of them were canceled in the first season.

So do you think Game Pass hurts developers, and why?

I think it's going to get them addicted to something they see as an endless source of money which allows developers to create pure slop. Once of the money tap is turned off, there will be no safety net.
I've seen a couple developers say gamepass hurt their numbers, but I suspect this is from developers who actually made a good game. For the average developer, game pass is likely very good right now considering game quality.

[sheet]

No, it helps crappy developers stay afloat by moving a portion of the pot that would normally solely go to the games people wanted to those that no one would even consider, regardless of whether subscribers even play those bad games after gaining access.

[logincrash]

Game? Nah, I'll Pass.

[nullSector]

No, it helps crappy developers stay afloat by moving a portion of the pot that would normally solely go to the games people wanted to those that no one would even consider, regardless of whether subscribers even play those bad games after gaining access.

Game pass is communism

[Val the Moofia Boss]

To me it seems like Game Pass is just a bandaid like how movie pass was for movies. New movies were becoming increasingly unpopular and some guy came up with Movie Pass paying out of pocket at a loss trying to stall the closure of theaters. And with Game Pass there has been a continual back and forth on whether or not Game Pass is actually profitable and how much Microsoft is doing numbers trickery or lingo speak trying to tout it as being more successful than it actually is.

[J1M]

People debate whether game pass is hurting developers.

Without any looking in to this, my first thoughts were "does Netflix hurt production studios?".

Game Pass is basically Netflix but for games. Plus, movies generally have a much higher budget than video games apart from some rare instances.

Is this just another case of developers feeling entitled and asking for more than their games are actually worth?

I can go to the back of the supermarket and pick up some blu-ray dvds for like a tenner each, some newer ones costing around £24.

Developers though are asking for £60-£120 these days for a game that has half the budget of some of the greatest pieces of cinema.

So do you think Game Pass hurts developers, and why?

Indie developers are irresponsible and bad at math, so yeah, I guess getting paid up front for a game they haven't finished would be bad for their studios.

For any sensible person, or a developer from the 90s, getting paid in advance for work and not having to give up your sales upside or your IP for the benefit of it would be a godsend.