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Forgive me rpghq for I have sinned and dipped my toe in gacha games.

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Well actually ain't my first time dipping, but usually i have my fun then hit a paywall or point in the game where it just becomes not fun and i hate having to feel like i need to play a game on a schedule, it's one of the reasons why i avoid mmos because i fear getting sucked in and reaching a point where i feel i HAVE to log in because otherwise if i don't i'll let the guild down or something, hell naw.

Anyways back to umasume pretty derby.
If you've spent any amount of time on social media lately, chances are you'll have noticed a rise in horse related memes and cute girls running around really fast, yeah it's because of this. IF you're confused, you will hopefully be less after I explain wtf it's all about.
The TLDR version is its anime horse girls based on rl racing horses, racing each other for our amusement. But let's expand on that.

First the setting and lore because it is genuinely hilarious to me in its connotations:
The game/anime is set in a wonderful alt history setting where THERE ARE NO HORSES ONLY HORSEGIRLS.
This means that from that dawn of time, as horses were so instrumental to the develop of human civilisation, humans have been taming and...riding? a race of apparently docile near humans who have the strength and speed of horses.
This implies a hell of a lot of things from genghis khan and his horde of mongol riding horsegirls to the tragedies of ww1-2 where millions of umas gave their lives to serve their country and pay the ultimate price (in this setting i'd imagine uma would be used more as shock units because they run so fast, who better then to send across no mans land to storm trenches?).

Also because this is anime world, similar to some anime i vaguely know of, umas can of course have two mothers and the mother can be the father. I don't know how this works and i'm scared to find out.
And yes, umas do hook up with their trainers in this setting (as confirmed by a recently released uma whose whole gimmick is she is obsessed over hooking up with you, the trainer). Yeah we going full anime here, no half measures, tourists gtfo if you can't handle it. That said though, uma yanderes and such are no jokes, an uma can not only quickly catch up to any human in seconds but with their horse strength they can easily overpower anyone,

^I have no idea how this guy is still alive or has a normal shaped head after getting horse kicks straight to the face.

Oh yeah there's also an anime but other then clips i can't tell you if it's any good or not.

Most of this is utterly irrelevant to the game though since it's exclusively focused on the horse racing part of the world rather then exploring the setting.

The gameplay:
Wtf do you actually do?
Well it's a management sim, pure and simple. You got 3 years to manage your chosen uma and take an action each turn to train your uma and boost her stats and teach her skills which have a % chance of activating depending on her wit stats so racing iq is an actual stat here among other things.
Win conditions vary based on the uma you select for that run, they all have different stats and strengths, as well as career goals, so difficulty varies from easy (to give examples: bakushin is a speed demon who only runs on short races during her career, so you can get away with only training speed over and over, whereas another uma like king halo has runs of all different lengths and requirements and has a ****** statline AND a tricky race style on top of it so she requires a lot more work, but at least she isn't moody and prone to fits of depression like some of the moodier umas) to very difficult (there is an uma who is based on a horse who lost all their races and she her career reflects that with the objectives usually being just to earn x amount of fans rather then win outright).

The highlights are obviously the races themselves though where you can see your preparations and hard training pay off, and the games production values make them fun to watch and very anime like, complete with dramatic closeups as umas activate their ultimate skills, and leading to lots of anime moments where your uma manages to activate several skills consecutively and push through to the finish line at the last second.
And this is where the game stumbled onto something which i think is key to its success: a lot of people really like to cheer for something they trained for to win. Watching your umas race is fun and relaxing. You get a nice dopamine rush when you think your uma is about to lose but then she remembers the power of friendship and animes her way to the finish line, likewise you get a genuine urge to kill when your uma who is favored number 1 and has better stats then everyone else somehow ends up mid place after being boxed in by other umas for half the race. Your fault for not taking more skills that make your uma better at positioning herself.

And if you win a race, you get a motion captured concert where the 3 singers vary depending on who wins (and you have a concert mode where you can mix and match which uma sings what to your hearts content, this is the kinda little thing that genuinely charms me since it shows the devs actually invested effort and ressources into features that would only appeal to a tiny section of people, you could remove this whole idol singing aspect entirely and i doubt it would change much, but the devs show their inner chad here by going the extra motioned captured mile.


But yeah that's the gameplay loop, simple time management sim with a race so you can see your efforts pay off.
In between races theres story events and occasionally a dialogue choice to make which can affect plotlines a bit but obviously its not intended to be an actual rpg, its just fun things for the player to read if they are into that, and there is an option at the start of every run to minimised cutscenes and story sections so you can focus just on the management aspects.

With cutscenes set to shortened/disable, each run takes on average 15-30 mins, going up to 1-2hoursish if you do take your time and read all enabled cutscenes.

Before every new run, you choose a support card deck who function a bit like rpg party members in that they become your support cast during the career and besides helping you train, you get events with them. And here is where the gacha starts so ill start a section on that i guess.

The gacha, or how greedy is it?
Well the good news is that if all you want to do is see the end of the game/story, then it is as casual as it gets.
Beating a career with basic cards and nothing levelled up might require a few restarts but it is totally doable and normal to beat runs after your first few tries, albeit it is unlikely you will win ALL of the races 1st place and get the best plotline outcomes. And that's whyyou play it again, and again, to do better then your previous run and race an even more super sonic uma.

And this is where you'll remember that umasume is still ultimately a gacha. Even if you are lucky enough to get an SSR support card, in most case it will be useless until you have further copies of it to uncap its stars, so the whale vs everyone else divide in pvp is real.
You can get away with SR gold support cards at the moment, its what i do, but the western version of the game is 3 years behind jp and what i've glimpsed from the jp servers got me wondering if i will still be playing by then (to give you an idea of the power creep, in jp they have 69 full league divisions above what is currently possible in global, and the stats on their umas tend to be 3k+ when currently global is capped at 1200).

So yeah between support cards needing to be uncapped and levelled to be used to their full potential and umasumes also having star rarities but the star shards are also slow to acquire, the artificial threadmill to limit your progression is certainly there but it doesnt prevent you from clearing single player content, it only really gets apparent when you start playing vs people. Also obviously must umas are locked and you gotta roll for those, also their costumes if you want those too as you cant just buy a skin.

As a free player you earn a bit of currency by doing dailies and from some missions but it is miserly, most of your prenium currency will be earned through giveaways and events.
If you did want to drop money on this game, my instinct aswell as vids of others playing this tells me you will likely drop 100s and not get what you want and then get forced into a sunk cost fallacy where you just drop 200 bucks to reach the pity draw and guarantee you get what you were actually wanting in the first place.


Anyways game is decently fun, worth a try now before it gets too sweaty.
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BlueMemphis wrote: September 9th, 2025, 20:25
umas can of course have two mothers and the mother can be the father
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BlueMemphis wrote: September 9th, 2025, 20:25
The gacha, or how greedy is it?
Well the good news is that if all you want to do is see the end of the game/story, then it is as casual as it gets.
Beating a career with basic cards and nothing levelled up might require a few restarts but it is totally doable and normal to beat runs after your first few tries, albeit it is unlikely you will win ALL of the races 1st place and get the best plotline outcomes. And that's what you play it again, and again, to do better then your previous run and race an even more super sonic uma.
That is surprising to hear. I have not heard of alternate gacha game endings/stories dependent upon money spent outside of women's romance gacha games like Love and Deep Space, where you have to pull a 5 star card to get a softcore sex scene with the husbando. Sounds like they're doing the same thing here trying to incentivize people to pull so they get the catharsis of seeing the happiest ending. Rather manipulative. Cygames' prior gacha, Granblue Fantasy, didn't do that. Almost every storyline has just the one ending and you can see it without having to pay.

BlueMemphis wrote: September 9th, 2025, 20:25
it only really gets apparent when you start playing vs people
It's also interesting that there is PvP. The current trend has been for gachas to move away from overt PvP or competitions between players to try to disguise the powercreep treadmill.

BlueMemphis wrote: September 9th, 2025, 20:25
If you did want to drop money on this game, my instinct aswell as vids of others playing this tells me you will likely drop 100s and not get what you want and then get forced into a sunk cost fallacy where you just drop 200 bucks to reach the pity draw and guarantee you get what you were actually wanting in the first place.
It depends. Cygames has been extremely generous with GBF. I started playing GBF in 2017, and every year there are three month long events (Christmas/New Year's, anniversary in March, summer event in August), and they give out hundreds of free draws during those event periods. Just from logging each day during those months over the past 8 years, I have acquired over 500 characters. I have more favorite characters than I can possibly fit into a party of 5. I have never had to pay money. GBF releases 4 or 5 characters per month so they were able to build up a huge catalog of characters which allowed them to give out lots of free draws for events. How often do new Uma characters release? Maybe they will start handing out lots of free draws soon.
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Gacha? Anime horse girls? High T?

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I kinda forced myself to step away like a month ago. The gameplay loop was actually sucking me in, good stuff.
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Whilst i'm sure some ****** will try to make it something out of it that it's not because it's what they do, i will point out for the less educated but probably better smelling members of the audience that the whole motherfather thing is because the umas are based on rl racehorses a good portion of which were male. You can tell if an uma was irl a dude or girl horse based on which side their ear ribbon is on.

Anyways because the umas are based on their irl counterparts and antics, such as this infamous incident:


This means that a lot of the umas are related too so you got one uma/horse lineage that is infamous for being quirky trolls and that carries over to the umas.
It's a bit like the fate setting (i don't know much of it except by cultural osmosis so if i get details wrong thats why) where all the historical figures like Nero or Arthur Pendragon are women (and also the same person or something? jfc anime i swear).
Leading to fem Arthur being the...father(?) of Mordred, who is also a chick naturally.

The intent behind this is less pushing a ***** agenda but more lets just make the world full of cute girls and it works because anime.

So let me reassure all those hesitating to give this a try because they fear it would be the first road on the step to severing your own genitals and calling yourself Lilith, IF that does happen it would be purely unrelated and not because of playing the game.
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BlueMemphis wrote: September 9th, 2025, 20:25

Also because this is anime world, similar to some anime i vaguely know of, umas can of course have two mothers and the mother can be the father. I don't know how this works and i'm scared to find out.
I saw the anime when it came out and I am pretty confident this is wrong. From what I remember, regular humans can birth Umas and Umas can birth regular humans. But, it requires a man and a woman. Either a human woman or an uma.

The stepmother of the protagonist of the 1st season is just that... a surrogate mother. Most likely to represent the human trainer of the IRL horse or something.
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BlueMemphis wrote: September 9th, 2025, 21:56
It's a bit like the fate setting (i don't know much of it except by cultural osmosis so if i get details wrong thats why) where all the historical figures like Nero or Arthur Pendragon are women (and also the same person or something? jfc anime i swear).
Leading to fem Arthur being the...father(?) of Mordred, who is also a chick naturally.
That's pretty much correct.

In the original Fate Stay Night, only King Arthur was genderbent, and that was a decision made halfway through development. The original conception of Fate was a young female heroine who summons King Arthur as her servant.

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Visual novels have always been a difficult industry/genre due to them emerging in the post bubble collapse and Japanese otakus moving away from computers to buying consoles, and ofcourse a lot of these VNs were sold at comiket and by word of mouth and did not have huge marketing budgets. The perception was that if you wanted to sell to more people at comiket, it needed to have cute girls and some sex scenes. With the protagonist being a girl, you can't have more girls to pair the protagonist with for scenes that otakus want. So Takeuchi asked Nasu to do something about this so that they could make more money. So Nasu flipped the the main duo and made the protagonist a man (Shirou), and made Arthur into actually being a girl pretending to be a man (Saber). All of the other historical figures in the original VN and even in the Zero LN are not genderbent and true to their historical selves or legends.

Fate started becoming popular, it got a Playstation rerelease that removed the sex scenes, and the series started getting spinoffs, like Fate/Extra where Nero first appeared. And then ofcourse there was the gacha game which opened the floodgates of genderbent historical figures and legends, because ofcourse cute sexy girls sell. As for the girls looking alike, that's because Takeuchi likes drawing them that way, so they are called Saberfaces.

As for Fate Saber/Arthur being the "father" of Mordred, in the Fate lore Merlin casts a spell so that Saber temporarily grows a penis.
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Val the Moofia Boss wrote: September 9th, 2025, 20:51
That is surprising to hear. I have not heard of alternate gacha game endings/stories dependent upon money spent outside of women's romance gacha games like Love and Deep Space, where you have to pull a 5 star card to get a softcore sex scene with the husbando. Sounds like they're doing the same thing here trying to incentivize people to pull so they get the catharsis of seeing the happiest ending. Rather manipulative. Cygames' prior gacha, Granblue Fantasy, didn't do that. Almost every storyline has just the one ending and you can see it without having to pay.
That sounds scummy af and also explains why women gacha are said to be so profitable if you need to pay to unlock romance scenes for your waifu/husbando or w/e after getting emotionally attached to them over the course for months.

There are alt endings in umasume but its not too bad: normal ending for clearing career goals but not the bonus grand tournament after story arc, good ending for beating both and ending where you get a sauna scene with your uma if you..do things perfectly i guess? Idk because i dont care about chasing the sauna ending and got them naturally through just playing but i guess its the closest the game has to a sex scene.

But yeah none of the SP content is really gated and the gameplay loop isn't about defeating an ongoing grind of progressively more difficult enemies (at least not yet) but just doing the same half an hour thing better and better, so the game feels honest in that regard, you only start thinking about money for pvp. And whilst i haven't played enough gacha games to be able to make a good comparison, from what you tell me pvp does play a bigger role in this title for the simple reason that it's where you get to use your perfectly grinded uma refined after 30 attempts.

After all by that point the sp mode is no challenge for you and your godly uma just laughs at every daily event run thrown in her way, what else is left? Other people, thats who.
And that's when you realise some people have umas with stupidly godly stats. Wow, they must be amazing trainers! How do they do that? Then you check what their support deck is and its all 6 SSR cards, naturally all the meta ones.

That's when you start feeling the pull, well maybe if i had super creek too which is one of the few cards that gives swinging maestro skill (a stamina recovery skill that is considered one of the most meta, basically dont even bother showing up to pvp without it, thats how vital this single skill is for most umas) i could win? That's why pvp might matter more to this game, without it wtf would anyone bother chasing shiny support cards when you can beat the game fine with just the starter stuff?

Otherwise skins, skins seems like it's going to be the other primary money maker.

From the sounds of it cygame has a decent track record so lets see if it tracks. As it stands i feel like i got a decent account with a nice selection of maxed gold cards and 2 maxed ssr from events even if they are not the meta ones and have raised some fun umas even if they got crushed in the recent pvp cup (this is where i discovered swinging maestro is kinda essential, got legit ptsd from it as i raged watching my umas be in the lead for 3/4 of the race only to collapse in the final stretch and place dead last each time).
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Val the Moofia Boss wrote: September 9th, 2025, 22:15
As for the girls looking alike, that's because Takeuchi likes drawing them that way, so they are called Saberfaces.
Incel me: Obviously there is a esoteric transdimensional plot going on where it's all sabers from different realities and this is why there is a nero saber or arthur saber or w/e historical figure version of saber, it's a deep exploration of the multifacted aspect of the human condition.
Chad author: i just like drawing the same girl over and over again lol
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BlueMemphis wrote: September 9th, 2025, 23:14
Chad author: i just like drawing the same girl over and over again lol
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Why did you call this a game and then embed a bunch of anime?
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J1M wrote: September 9th, 2025, 23:48
Why did you call this a game and then embed a bunch of anime?
It would appear so but push past the anime (which you can mostly disable at the start of each run) and there is a decent race horse management sim to try out for free without worrying about forking money.

I'll segue from this to say was thinking of doing an lp to showcase the gameplay since even though too lazy to do a long ongoing lp, an uma run is short so feels doable enough to commit to the bit. Depends how annoying pasting screencaps would be.
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BlueMemphis wrote: September 10th, 2025, 00:18
J1M wrote: September 9th, 2025, 23:48
Why did you call this a game and then embed a bunch of anime?
It would appear so but push past the anime (which you can mostly disable at the start of each run) and there is a decent race horse management sim to try out for free without worrying about forking money.

I'll segue from this to say was thinking of doing an lp to showcase the gameplay since even though too lazy to do a long ongoing lp, an uma run is short so feels doable enough to commit to the bit. Depends how annoying pasting screencaps would be.
It might be better to record a run with OBS, export into shotcut, upload to youtube or the vault. Or you could paste screencaps and narrate what is going on at each part of the gameplay loop.
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BlueMemphis wrote: September 10th, 2025, 00:18
J1M wrote: September 9th, 2025, 23:48
Why did you call this a game and then embed a bunch of anime?
It would appear so but push past the anime (which you can mostly disable at the start of each run) and there is a decent race horse management sim to try out for free without worrying about forking money.

I'll segue from this to say was thinking of doing an lp to showcase the gameplay since even though too lazy to do a long ongoing lp, an uma run is short so feels doable enough to commit to the bit. Depends how annoying pasting screencaps would be.
If you wanted us to believe that about the gameplay, why didn't you embed a video with the gameplay?
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I'm personally not a fan of video lps, tastes will vary but i follow lps half for the authors rants and takes which you won't get as much with gameplay vids.

Also would hope for some audience participation, basically calling out people who are snickering at the cute anime girl game and challenging them to help raise an uma to glory and see how hardcore it is.
So yeah would be the screencap route if its not a hassle to do.
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J1M wrote: September 10th, 2025, 00:20
If you wanted us to believe that about the gameplay, why didn't you embed a video with the gameplay?
It would be like linking the gameplay to princess maker 2 or a sports management sim game, felt it would be more fun this way.

Could also link a race but it's not the same effect if you are not cheering for YOUR uma, it's part of the fun.
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Why is this here?
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Tweed wrote: September 10th, 2025, 01:41
Why is this here?
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tl;dr
Imaging playing a gacha game which you can't even do lewd legally because all of those waifus are based on real horses, and those boomers who own the animals would get pissy when coomers want to coom (while willing to license their animals to the coomerbait slop).
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